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Your decision will be based on how much you want to see Rio.  You recently got to know Sao Paulo.  
As you know, there are direct flights into Rio or Sao Paulo from the U.S.  
I personally prefer to spend more time in Sao Paulo than in Rio because there is so much more to do in Sao Paulo and the city is safer than Rio.  Rio has a large beach and two popular saunas and a higher crime rate than does Sao Paulo.     
Sauna wise, in Rio, you have:
Clube 117 which is a fun place and never disappointed me in the many years and times I visited there. 
Clube 202 can be a fun and busy place and easy to meet garotos.  However, the owner, Junior, likes LOUD
music which, when he is there, turns up the music loud which makes it difficult to have a conversation with the garotos or anyone else while in the sauna.  His sauna is located in Copacabana, right near a favela which makes it easier for street crime to come down the hill and bother people on the street near the sauna then quickly escape back up the hill.
There is also one smaller sauna in Rio that I never saw but supposedly has very young thin garotos.  I do not recall the name of the sauna.  
So, given the above and if it were I and the first time in Brazil, I would book Rio for a few days then proceed to Sao Paulo for the remainder of my vacation.  Of course, this is what I would do.  
When you travel between Rio and SP, while in Brazil, there is no need to go to the far out international airports.  There is a smaller downtown airport in both Rio and SP. - Congonas and Santos Dumont airports. 
It is only about an hour flight between the downtown two city airports.    

Soon, I'll be back in the States. 
As I mentioned earlier, I went to Hothouse. On Thursday, I was too tired to stay until 2 am, so I left after one of the first gogo shows. The dancers were incredibly hot, but my body was screaming for a bed. I'm not the type of guy who can stay out that late. Then, on Friday, I returned to Hothouse, and the dancers were even hotter. This time, I went back to my hotel to rest for a bit and headed back to Hothouse at 12:30. Friday wasn't as crowded either, but it was a lot of fun. I discovered that there were two dark rooms there – one was slightly lit for clients to mingle, and the other was almost pitch black. It had an L-shaped layout, making it discreet from the sides. Around 2 am, people started going in and out of that area. Since there weren't too many people, it was easy to see who was there. Some of the clients were also from Lagoa. As another user mentioned in a different thread, there's a young hipster at the entrance. For me, anyone wearing glasses and looking under 30 falls into the hipster category -  He provides you with a card that they use to bill you whenever you order a drink. I was glad they did this because I could pay with my credit card and save cash for other purposes.
Hothouse resembles Taboo in Montreal, but I apologize for using Montreal as a reference. The bars in Montreal are well-known to forum members. However, I have to admit that Montreal has more life than Hothouse, probably due to its convenient location in The Village whereas Hothouse is in a less popular area. Returning to the topic of sex that night, the two boys called "interactives." I wasn't particularly hot, actually kind of not that good looking, but i will always leave the what is hot and what is not to each person, so I  just looked at them intercting with the clients, but decided to leave since I was already full from everything I ate at Lagoa. (literally and figuratively) Oh, boy, now i get the those brazilian are hung. i have to adjust my body to take some of them.
About the Lagoa shows, it's actually quite enjoyable.
By the time the show starts, you've already indulged in so many  guys/cks that you welcome the entertainment break  Those in the IG post below, were the gogo for that night, but they dont hang around; I sense that these gogo looked down on those GP who were working at the sauna, which is a shame, but to each their own. However, two of them  even shared their WhatsApp numbers with me one for 600 reals asnd to other for 1k reais. but i didnt need them and i prefer my GP nicenesscand willingness, i am sucker for good hearted GP  I didn't see a single woman; there were only two drag performances waiting for their turn. I lost track of time, but the shows usually start around 10 pm, and as is typical with saunas with boys, the best ones were already gone. Actually, as i mentioned before, some walk in and barely lasted in the common areas and they were gone in less than an hour AGAIN, the ones all dressed up not using a towel are such a bummers, i felt to follow my own advice and it was this blonde paulista, so handsome but so dull and not body or hungness. while the were some garotos that are in my own record Guinness of hung and hard, oh my lord I also stayed for the bingo night, something I hadn't done in almost 30 years, so it was a lot of fun.  The best GPs are often taken by regular clients. I observed a similar situation at Paragonya, where some attractive ones were consistently with a group of regular clients, making it difficult for others to approach them. Although I won't do it myself, as it would frustrate me if I were with my own GP, having drinks and inviting them to dinner while another person tries to get their attention, there were at least three GPs who never left the side of their  clients/friends. These gps were, to say the least, stunning. The only day I would say wasn't a good mix of guys was on Thursday. I wished I had known about Lagoa earlier because there were a lot of hot gp and I even saw some who were even hotter and more handsome.  but this time, I focused more on the lower part  and length  of the GPs' bodies instead of my usual preference for guys like  Sean Cody meets Bel Ami boys Friday dancers at Lagoa that also danced at HotHouse
By the way, I met a forum member, his username was Yorki or something similar, and he said he would DM me. He seemed to be having a lot of fun with the menu. I don't know if it was because he's a Latino guy, but he was interacting quite a bit with all the guys.
Afterward, I stopped by DangerClub, which was promoting interactive waitresses, but I didn't see any. The backroom I mentioned earlier was empty, and for some reason, I wasn't charged a cover fee, so I left within 10 minutes. It was late for me, and I was looking forward to seeing what the rest of the weekend had in store.
I must admit that if it had only been Lagoa, that would have been more than fine. I had the best time there, and my wallet is feeling it. I'll provide a more detailed account of Saturday and Sunday, but I had plenty of hits on Tinder, and I didn't even need to look elsewhere. Lagoa had everything I was looking for. I wonder what it was like here before COVID, as I had to make choices about who to spend time with. I ended up having three "friend experiences" where we hung out together, had some drinks, and repeated the fun.
I tried to check out other places like 555, but with my limited energy and knowing that I couldn't find the same type of GP (general practitioners) that I could hire elsewhere, I decided against it. Upgrade Club piqued my interest, but the only night I could have gone was Friday, which happened to be BDSM night – quite the opposite of my preferences.
I did visit Dedalos bar a couple of times since it was open 24 hours, but at all hours, it seemed to have the same crowd as any other bar. 
I stumbled upon a place called Cabines bar by chance; it was centrally located at one end of Paulista Avenue. This place was open from 2 pm to midnight, and a very friendly staff member advised me to come between 5 and 8 when it was busy with working people. 
to be continued...

Most seem to object to the layout of Lagoa - it’s vertical, like a smaller version of Termas BCN.  However, Lagoa is fairly new (maybe 2 years old max) and it’s in a safe part of SP with very easy access to major hotels.  The number of working guys varies by time/date just like all the others. Lagoa does seem built more for business than compared to more socializing at 117 & Pointe
117 & Pointe are both old facilities, albeit traditional Brazilian saunas with garotos.  I’m not a fan of 117 just because I don’t like going to Gloria.  Pointe is really central in Copacabana with easy access, but the neighborhood can be dangerous day & night.
The saunas are more what you make of them vs what some expect to be served.  For me, it’s really more about safety and there is no question the area around Lagoa is far safer than Pointe & 117 in Rio. Not even close. 
As for the working guys - just go on a few different nights and you’ll see that it varies and can be unpredictable. All of them should have more than enough choices to make even the demanding client happy (except a few here). 

same thing happened to me in BCN.  It’s a strict policy there.  I’ve seen it happen to other clients there many times.  They’re not really rude about it - but if there is a language barrier it could come off that way.  I believe they are wary of law enforcement going in & less likely to happen if everyone is in towels…among many reasons to enforce that rule. 

i didnt go to Rio, i am glad i didnt, i dont think i can handled so, i alredy book my next trip and i include Rio and i will report
i think, dont making any assumptions, but i have similar taste as @tassojunior but i didnt see but two or less of pretty boys/masc boys most of them were A Brazilian "garoto" guy with tanned skin with a mix of ethnic backgrounds, What truly sets a Brazilian garoto guy apart is his friendly and outgoing nature. their warm smile and love for socializing.  
I felt for one that i called the mulato jake gyllenhaal, such a gorgeous face and even nicer demeanor 
cant wait for continuing discovering new places. 
 
Edit, my bad, i meant Tassojunior

I like 117 both for the high quality of guys and the spacious and patio layout. I just Uber there. 202 is more crowded plus the guys are more pushy so you really feel crowded not in a good way. 117 guys look like they just got out of their college class and stopped at the gym. 202 guys look like they just left their parole officer's meeting and got their muscles inside. (how's that for stereotyping). 

Body positivity is something that I feel these places encourage. Sometimes, I'm self-conscious about my aging body, especially because I'm tall, so it stands out a lot. However, after a couple of visits to these bathouses where I walk around naked with a pride that Charles Atlas would envy, haha!           It's so refreshing to feel that, regardless of your appearance or age, you'll be treated well. I understand that you might attribute this to 'exchcange' but sometimes it's more than that, or at least for me

agree, Lagoa looked new, and i liked it a lot the suits with the bathroom. I walked every time, except on Saturday and Sunday that it was rainy. and that area close to Hermitage it was pretty nice and i was surprised in how close i was to a side of the Paulista Avenue. the one that has a mall with the Santander bank in the front.
have anyone stayed at the Transamerica Executive Paulista hotel? it looks really nice and is still within the proximity, besides i Uber everywhere, so i will choose this one over the  Hermitage
Also, Mon to Friday was a nice warm weather, but Friday night, Sat, and Sund got kind of chilly, and rainy

Yes. The area around Lagoa is quite nice and very gay. Like a lot gay couples holding hands. 
I was very aware of my surroundings, but the only place that looked more than shady was around Republic. It looked kind of sad, unkempt, and dirty, with all these homeless people around.
 
Unfortunately , I was told that  there are no more Hop-On Hop off  buses in SP. 
So, I used a taxi as my personal driver, and he took me to a lot of places, including the worst of them all: Estação da Luz, . The driver didn't want me to go there or get out of the car while there, but I insisted because all the sites for the Hop-On and Hop-Off buses indicated that the starting point was that location. Despite it being 10 am, he quickly drove me out of there.
 I am not planning on comeback to any of those places 

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How true are your words! 
Solution, do not believe anyone about HIV that you meet through rentmen or other provider sources.  

We both know that you are a very bright person. 
However, when you say "It is an omission, not misrepresentation." cannot be further from the truth.  You know better.  
Dictionary Definitions from Oxford Languages · Learn more           mis·rep·re·sen·ta·tion /ˌmisˌreprəˌzenˈtāSH(ə)n/ noun   the action or offense of giving a false or misleading account of the nature of something. "she is seeking damages on allegations of misrepresentation"          

The above quote refers to people who are HIV positive yet lie and say they are HIV negative. 
Once again, this week, the same person appeared again on rentmen as "rentmen of the day" making no reference about his being HIV positive.   He appeared on the "rentmen of the day" ad several times this year.
However, a couple of years a back, this same person used to disclose being HIV +.
To my knowledge, there is no cure for HIV.   So, how can he now be negative?
Lesson to learn?   Do not believe everthing posted in ads.  

oh the irony -
quite something to opine about people using multiple aliases when one does the very same thing, ad infinitum.
and particularly when one is known for the multiple aliases due to the signature verbose ridiculous/pompous/pretentious posts
not surprising in context , yet a stunning lack of self-awareness. again 
Hi Riobard !!!

How true are your words! 
Solution, do not believe anyone about HIV that you meet through rentmen or other provider sources.  

Ok - I’ll frame another example in the context of RM ada.
I know at least 2 providers in my geography who say specifically they are Negative (one just says “negative”, the other says “negative on prep”) and I know they are positive as they have told me. One of them used to say negative at the time they told me they were positive … then I noticed they changed it to positive a few weeks later … but now it’s back to actually saying negative.
And from others including people on this forum through private conversations I know there are others with similar observations about different providers.
the morality of this is a separate topic. Let’s acknowledge it happens. Clients can decide how to behave in such a world individually.
 

It is what it is!
You hire someone to do a particular job.  You pay their asking price.  
The person that is hired failed at what they were paid to do. 
Why should the buyer not be truthful about the failure?
If a buyer is not allowed to report the truth, why even have reviews?

Was talking to someone I’ve know who works at one of the prominent bars in New York 
He was saying that one welcome change in his job over the past few years that he no longer has to clear used condoms from the floor after closing time which was the part of his job he hated 
 

If it were my bf or hookup in this context - I might agree. But Isn’t this rather like saying a doctor or dentist or lawyer had a bad day so despite paying them for services advertised / promised / expected I shouldn’t be complaining about them if they failed in the task at hand?
we hear from providers they want respect as professionals.
Let them be judged to professional standards.
 

If the provider had performed as advertised and AS CHARGED THE CLIENT, a bad review would not have be given. 
To threaten a client because the client paid the provider for less than satisfactory service then wrote a truthful review about the unsatisfactory service is absurd.  
It is a two-way street - the provider supplies a service and the client supplies the money.  If one does not perform, what is the purpose of a review except to call it like it was?

If the provider had performed as advertised and AS CHARGED THE CLIENT, a bad review would not have be given. 
To threaten a client because the client paid the provider for less than satisfactory service then wrote a truthful review about the unsatisfactory service is absurd.  
It is a two-way street - the provider supplies a service and the client supplies the money.  If one does not perform, what is the purpose of a review except to call it like it was?

great review of Lagoa.  

I’m assuming you probably have some specific contact information for garotos you met & liked.  When you get private messages asking for that information (and you will) - do not give it out.  Keep all your contacts for you only.  All you need is for one creeper to ruin a nice relationship.  

This begs the question how many DO find bodybuilders attractive ?
I know I don't.
..and I am strictly attracted to young ATHLETIC men but I find bodybuilding crosses a line for me where I don't find this exaggerated muscle look at all attractive.
Maybe there are fewer enthusiasts than you think. I don't know.
 

But which version are we gonna meet....

At HotHouse. Not that many people but the gogo dancers are really hot and dance like is a huge crowd. 
j already use a towel to dry one of them. That hottie in the pic. 
I bet it will get wild   
Now I am going to Dangerclub
 
the DangerClub opens at midnight  and the area is not bad  actually is like a hipster place  while I wait to open I am having a beer and some snacks , the place is full of hipster Brazilians,  a lot of hot guys as bartender and as clients  
 I kind of like it here, there is this skinny hipster bartender do fucking hot  I wish it was a gogo dancer like that   
 
once is 12 I will go to Danger and then


this is Danger entrance 


I feel quite safe, between the hipster and Grindr full of mostly bottoms. 
and i
look very gringo. But no one has treated me any differently