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I'm confused. This is an escort ad of some guy who is over 45 years old who only wants clients 45 years old or younger, and he wants those clients to text him a photo and ID? If so, I doubt he gets any customers. Even if it's just a hookup ad, asking for someone's ID via text probably isn't going to result in much, if any, response. If your issue is that he only wants guys younger than him, that's extremely common.

I agree with the consensus - you should have told him. I don't agree with what seems to be the consensus, that it's normal to be so freaked out by the presence of someone else that of course anyone in their right mind would leave. Not only did I encounter this situation numerous times when hiring masseurs and escorts, it never really occurred to me to be overly concerned about it. Did I find it somewhat annoying to actually have to see someone else (for example, a roommate on a sofa in the living area that had to be passed through to get to the bedroom)? Yes, but not enough for me to make an issue of it. For those arguing the safety angle, if someone really is intent on doing you harm don't you think it would be just as easy for them to have their accomplice hanging out nearby and then that person enters after you're already naked? Wouldn't that put you in an even more vulnerable position? It just seems to me that some level of trust is required to meet a stranger, and whatever screening/vetting process one has is hopefully good enough to at least keep the people with malintent at bay.

One always has to treat reviews with a grain of salt, even those posted here. That being said, if a forum member praises someone and that forum member has a history of commenting on a variety of providers (a sign it isn't just a shill account set up to hype a specific provider) I will give that more credence. I used to take chances on unknown guys all the time 25 years ago. Guys would post ads on Craigslist and take them down after they got a client. Those guys frequently never ventured into working full time as escorts or masseurs, by which I mean they never advertised on any of the escort or masseur websites outside of Craigslist or Adam4Adam. I had a lot of success but definitely hired some duds. Even if I were the same age now as I was then, I'm not sure I'd take the same chances. I think there are a lot more pure scammers advertising now.

I also say danger because if you search the phone number in the Rentmen ad, you'll find that it's listed on a page for a security firm called S.G.S. Enterprises. I suppose it's possible that some security guard is moonlighting as an escort and using the same phone number, or that the phone number on the S.G.S. website is an old number and this guy has no connection with that service.

I know this post will be of limited value because this escort operated on the DL so only clients who hired him would know of him, but I met a guy off a Craigslist posting about 20 years ago who was a university student who worked as an escort during school breaks. I saw him several times over a period of a couple of years and enjoyed every thing about him. I didn't always hire guys that much younger than me (I was in my early 40s at the time), but I definitely hired a number of guys of similar age. After all these years he still stands out in my mind as one of the cutest and most fun I had the pleasure to be with. I don't know whether anyone else on this board knew him; when I've posted about him in the past, I have never seen a reply that indicates anyone else here knew him. He used the name Sean, his family lived somewhere in the San Francisco Bay Area because that's where I saw him during his school breaks, and he attended university in southern California.

I'm pretty sure something else is at work here, as my research indicates that, if anything, one might expect to pay fewer taxes for 2023 than 2022 if one's income remained the same because there was an inflationary adjustment to tax brackets. The individual income tax cuts made when Trump was in office expire at the end of 2025. So, I'm guessing one or more of the following is true: Your total (adjusted gross) income wasn't actually the same in 2023 as in 2022. Your tax is the same but you had less withheld or made less quarterly estimated tax payments, and what you really mean is that you owe $2,000 more with your return for last year, not that your overall taxes are $2,000 higher. Data entry error. I have to say that while the various tax programs I've tried are great for relatively straight-forward returns, if you have one thing that doesn't apply to the vast majority of taxpayers then the program might not do a good job of guiding you through the data entry for that. The program I use doesn't properly call attention to one tax credit I'm eligible for, and every year after the "interview" portion is done I have to use the search function in the program to guide me to the screen where I enter the data to get that tax credit.

The video's credits name Barry as the pianist, and it's well known that they performed together at the Continental Baths. According to a Wikipedia article about the baths, Barry was actually the house pianist and sometimes performed just wearing a towel like the patrons. That I didn't previously know.

From the small amount of his video I could suffer through (was that three or four product placements within the first minute?), I don't get the appeal beyond his being young. I agree that he doesn't seem to have enough followers at this time to afford the life he's showing on YouTube, so he must have some other source(s) of income.

That "guy on piano" was Barry Manilow, the guy who later had great commercial success as a singer-songwriter and who was one of the producers of Bette's Divine Miss M album.

I noticed his profile a while ago, but his name put me off considering hiring him. Why choose "bandit" as part of your name when that basically means thief? Given he has some positive reviews, I assume that he isn't just a con artist. Still seems like a strange name to me.

The main reason to reply is a desire to continue to be given notice that he's traveling to your area again. If you just ignore his text, he may assume you aren't interested in a repeat and will drop your number from his list of prospects. Apart from that, I do what you do -- I simply don't reply to guys I've hired once and don't want to hire again, at least not in the moment. I suppose if I really didn't like a guy, I'd reply and ask to be removed from his list of contacts. But if I enjoyed myself I don't mind an occasional text, particularly if they include a some new photos, and then maybe I'll hire him again at some point (or maybe not).

Yes, the devil may be in the details. For example, there's a world of difference between: "I am glad you liked me enough to reach out to me again, but I won't be hiring you." and "I really enjoyed our time together, but I'm not in a position to hire you during this visit." Unless we're dealing with an extremely thin skinned escort, I don't see why the latter response would cause them to refuse a future booking. The former comes across as a hard dismissal, so if the response is similar to that I'm not surprised that an escort would put the client in the "don't waste my time" category.

This topic has come up many times. The real answer is that there is no "agreed upon" or standard definition. If you want to know more about what a specific masseur offers, you need to ask him and/or check what his clients have had to say about him.

Previously advertised as TantraColt, and there are a couple of threads here where he's discussed a bit. For some reason, I think he advertised under a different name before that.

I don't think a reply is necessary. Don't forget that he's a businessman and is sending out texts to attract customers. It isn't personal. I would give different advice if you had some particularly intimate exchange, but after one appointment that was just "okay" I don't think the relationship has risen to the level that you have any sort of obligation to respond. Can you imagine replying to every other business that sends you a notification or email to try to get your money? If you do want to reply, I think a polite "no, thanks" is the way to go. There's no reason to string the guy along into thinking that you are a good prospect for the future if you really have no interest in hiring them again.

Even though I remain unconvinced that the listings differ (though maybe they do for other areas), I'm glad this topic got posted. It prompted me to take another look at rent.men. I had kept using rentmen.eu because I didn't like the design of rent.men when I looked at it years ago. I see that they improved rent.men and now prefer it to rentmen.eu

I just did this test to compare rent.men and rentmen.eu listings in San Francisco: Filtering for "anything goes" under Safe Sex, both have 119 results. (Rent.men provides a count and I manually counted the last page displayed on rentmen.eu and added 96 (24 listings per page multiplied by 4 full pages). Filtering for "ask me," both have 120 results. Filtering for "safe only," both have 47 results. Note that if you list all profiles, you will see the number is 295 for each site. So the number of profiles when applying that filter results in lists that match in terms of number, but of course I didn't compare the names in each list to see that they matched. I'd be very surprised, however, if the numbers matched but the actual profiles didn't.

I have never noticed this before. How are you determining that this is the case? There are nearly 300 ads in San Francisco; I certainly don't have the patience to start a list based on one site and compare it to the other site to make sure they match exactly. The only thing I can say is that I have noticed that sometimes the same person appears more than once in the list, giving the appearance that there are more distinct listings than there are.

I'll give the guy the benefit of the doubt in only one respect: maybe he's not familiar with the area and has no idea how long it takes to walk 7 blocks. According to Google maps it takes 13 minutes, and I suppose you could have just told him that you'd be there in 15 minutes instead of expecting that he would be intelligent enough to figure out how long it would take you to get there. That being said, you clearly told him you were walking and then he asked if you were taking a ride share, so he apparently isn't an attentive fellow. I probably wouldn't have asked him if he was high, but I understand the impetus to cancel.

Are you just waking up to the fact that some people in the USA want to eliminate almost all social changes made over the past several decades?

I agree with the others about having a regular or two. Over the course of 10+ years I hired over 50 different guys. One guy I hired nearly monthly for a decade, another whenever he was in town for the few years he was in this line of work. A few others were hired multiple times, but not enough over a long enough period to be considered a regular. I am confused by part of your post, though, and wonder if everyone is just taking in your last three paragraphs and not the last two sentences of your first paragraph. Am I reading your post correctly: You've hired several guys and enjoyed yourself, but have one guy you've interacted with but never met because he seems too perfect? Are you asking whether that's common for clients -- to hire many guys but not the one that is most appealing? That really only makes sense to me in one of two scenarios: a) You think the guy isn't actually what he claims to be or b) You fear that your strong interest in this guy will make things awkward (e.g., your insecurities will make it difficult to enjoy being with him, you'll have stronger feelings towards him than you are comfortable with, etc). Otherwise, why wouldn't you hire the guy who attracts you the most intensely?

Pardon my ignorance, but what does that second screen capture mean? For example, does it simply mean that 13.5 million Roku Channel viewers have been served an ad for his site? If so, then I have to say I wouldn't be impressed if I were a prospective advertiser on the site. There doesn't seem to be any targeting at all towards either the right community (gay men) or geographic area. I agree with Occasional's post above: Far more meaningful would be to give prospective advertisers a free trial period of, say, three months. Require that the ad include the phrase "when reaching out to X, tell him you found him on www.whatever.com ." The site owner could, of course, suggest that advertisers ask where the client saw their ads in case the clients neglect to include this information. The proof is in the pudding, as they say.

A couple of decades ago, there was a site dedicated to m4m masseurs in the San Francisco area. I no longer remember the URL, but I did use that site a lot to find masseurs. If I'm not mistaken, there was no Rentmasseur at the time so my three main sites for finding masseurs were that one, Masseurfinder and Craigslist. If a new site dedicated to my area appeared and I heard about it, I would certainly use it. The key issue is how clients are going to discover the new site. Unless the site owner has figured out how to drive traffic and can demonstrate that to you, as an advertiser I fear you'd just be throwing your money down the drain (or, rather, just helping to support someone financially who really isn't doing anything for you).

You joined earlier today and this is your first post? I suggest searching the forum for previous threads on this topic as this question has been discussed so much that I'm not sure what else there is to say. You'll find some who think it's entirely reasonable to pay in advance (or pay a deposit in advance), and others who don't. As to what to do when you pay in advance and then the escort fails to deliver as promised, unless the guy offers a full or partial refund you are out your money.

Messaged via Rentmen's platform, or by text directly to them? I'm less likely to think the lack of response is about you being blacklisted than something else such as: a) they haven't seen your message yet; b) they are simply busy; c) your initial message didn't interest them for whatever reason; d) they are actually advertising to promote their porn and not trying to get clients.