ErnieJBurton

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Interesting. A short list of facts is high maintenance in your opinion? Or is it two texts, one asking for his availability and one answering his question is high maintenance in your opinion? I would argue that his requirements would much more easily meet that definition.
 
Regardless this was a couple years ago and I don’t waste any time thinking about him. I’m just providing my experience to others and they can choose to reach out to him or not.

Took the leap and have mixed feelings. I’ve met him a handful of times. First was for a massage and the second for more.
First, Pics are not anywhere recent. He’s significantly heavier in a non muscular way. Same handsome face, much scruffier. I also like bears so was still into it.
massage was boring, not painful but lacked effort. Took a second try for more and Nice guy but definitely straight and not into much intimacy.  Doesn’t like to kiss which was a huge turnoff for me.

Thanks to @ErikEriksson, @nomad et al. for their cogent remarks that clarify the issues and correct fabricated quotes. 
I made my original post to call attention to what I viewed as an openly hateful remark by a new provider who apparently believes that using the anti-gay slur beginning with "f" is acceptable. What never occurred to me was that some people here would ignore or minimize the provider's offensive language almost entirely and instead focus on my passing comment that his rates were beyond my budget and what I typically spend.
I was even called a "jerk" simply because I had the audacity to suggest that I might be interested if there were room for negotiation at a lower price point. Apparently, even raising the possibility of negotiating a price is, to some, an unforgivable sin.
Now I read a member's comment with the equally absurd claim that there is some sort of unwritten - but supposedly universally accepted - rule prohibiting discussion or negotiation of rates. If that's true, used car salesmen everywhere must be envious of an industry where asking whether a price is negotiable is treated as a moral failing.
Gratefully, after being portrayed as a time-wasting, lowballing jerk, I received a private (and consoling) message from another member encouraging me to ignore the bullying and assuring me that I had done nothing wrong. I appreciate that sort of kindness and support, but it's difficult to ignore the fact that the conversation has been diverted away from what should have been the real issue: an openly derogatory slur directed at our still-targeted community.  Instead of condemning that behavior, some have chosen to criticize an entirely innocuous comment about my budget. To me, that shift in priorities is far more troubling than anything I wrote.

It's partially because he wouldn't have lashed out that way had you not "suggested" a lower rate in a business transaction where bartering/negotiating is not the norm and is actively frowned upon by most people on both ends of the transaction in this hobby (particularly for new first time clients). That's the part you aren't understanding, you didn't just say hello and he bit your head off for nothing. You don't realize you effectively insulted him first. Obviously, his reaction was way over the top and tells a lot about him, but "merely suggesting" a lower rate is what caused him to initially escalate. What you're used to paying isn't an enforced standard, every provider can charge what they want and if it's a price they stick to, it's generally because they have people who are paying it and they generally aren't going to lower it (especially as drastically as you suggested) for a new first time client.
If you'd replied the same way to any other provider, most of them of course wouldn't have called you what he called you, but they'd have likely still been fairly annoyed or even mad at you, verbalized that in some less extreme way, and possibly still blocked you. If someone is charging a rate you can't afford or aren't willing to pay, you don't say "well other providers are charging less" or "well i don't think you're worth that much so you should only charge me X instead". That's effectively what you're saying to a provider when you bring up some lower price some other provider unrelated to them charges. It's an insulting suggestion to the provider and simply isn't how this works. All that's needed (if anything) at most is a "oh ok that doesn't work for me/my budget unfortunately" and move on to the next profile.
So with that knowledge/context, the issue is that you unknowingly poked a bear here by not knowing an unspoken courtesy of this hobby. That's why people are telling you about what you said more than they are criticizing the provider. The provider saying what he said sucks, literally no one here is denying or defending that. People suck and are going to say hateful shit. He's not on this thread to hear the criticism and he likely wouldn't change even if he was. Consoling you over that doesn't prevent you from unknowingly walking into this situation again with another provider, but telling you why this happened does.

FWIW any one who advertises their services to the gay male community and calls us that particular slur - in ANY CIRCUMSTANCE - should be known for their own words.
I’m surprised and disappointed with anyone defending this behavior.

FWIW any one who advertises their services to the gay male community and calls us that particular slur - in ANY CIRCUMSTANCE - should be known for their own words.
I’m surprised and disappointed with anyone defending this behavior.

Following. Kinkyboy has been on my ‘to do’ list for quite a while 

I'm on a budget and can only meet with one provider this weekend.   I've been chatting with these two guys.    Anyone with experience with both or either, I'd love to hear your thoughts.    You are free to PM me as well if you want. 
 
https://rentmen.eu/LEOFUNXL
https://rentmen.eu/KinkyBoyNYC

Anyone know anything about this guy?
https://rent.men/Superstripperman
I can’t find anything here on him so maybe a name change, but almost suspiciously glowing reviews. 
I inquired about whether he hosts and the response was “yes - $500 an hour”
That's top dollar in NYC or LA - and this guy is currently in Detroit, where that’s like rent money.

Anyone know anything about this guy?
https://rent.men/Superstripperman
I can’t find anything here on him so maybe a name change, but almost suspiciously glowing reviews. 
I inquired about whether he hosts and the response was “yes - $500 an hour”
That's top dollar in NYC or LA - and this guy is currently in Detroit, where that’s like rent money.

Anyone know anything about this guy?
https://rent.men/Superstripperman
I can’t find anything here on him so maybe a name change, but almost suspiciously glowing reviews. 
I inquired about whether he hosts and the response was “yes - $500 an hour”
That's top dollar in NYC or LA - and this guy is currently in Detroit, where that’s like rent money.

I’ll be in Vegas for a work event and saw that Niccky is now there. Was pleased to see that, as I’d seen his and Middle Beastern profiles before but timing never worked.
He wanted pics of me (or at least stats) before he would commit. I declined, saying I’ll only share a pic once a date is made. He insisted so I said never mind. Im not into proving I’m hot enough for someone to take my money.
He replied “I’ll bet you’re in your 50s” and blocked me.
Bullet dodged.

I’ll be in Vegas for a work event and saw that Niccky is now there. Was pleased to see that, as I’d seen his and Middle Beastern profiles before but timing never worked.
He wanted pics of me (or at least stats) before he would commit. I declined, saying I’ll only share a pic once a date is made. He insisted so I said never mind. Im not into proving I’m hot enough for someone to take my money.
He replied “I’ll bet you’re in your 50s” and blocked me.
Bullet dodged.

I’ll be in Vegas for a work event and saw that Niccky is now there. Was pleased to see that, as I’d seen his and Middle Beastern profiles before but timing never worked.
He wanted pics of me (or at least stats) before he would commit. I declined, saying I’ll only share a pic once a date is made. He insisted so I said never mind. Im not into proving I’m hot enough for someone to take my money.
He replied “I’ll bet you’re in your 50s” and blocked me.
Bullet dodged.

I’ll be in Vegas for a work event and saw that Niccky is now there. Was pleased to see that, as I’d seen his and Middle Beastern profiles before but timing never worked.
He wanted pics of me (or at least stats) before he would commit. I declined, saying I’ll only share a pic once a date is made. He insisted so I said never mind. Im not into proving I’m hot enough for someone to take my money.
He replied “I’ll bet you’re in your 50s” and blocked me.
Bullet dodged.

I’ll be in Vegas for a work event and saw that Niccky is now there. Was pleased to see that, as I’d seen his and Middle Beastern profiles before but timing never worked.
He wanted pics of me (or at least stats) before he would commit. I declined, saying I’ll only share a pic once a date is made. He insisted so I said never mind. Im not into proving I’m hot enough for someone to take my money.
He replied “I’ll bet you’re in your 50s” and blocked me.
Bullet dodged.

I’ll be in Vegas for a work event and saw that Niccky is now there. Was pleased to see that, as I’d seen his and Middle Beastern profiles before but timing never worked.
He wanted pics of me (or at least stats) before he would commit. I declined, saying I’ll only share a pic once a date is made. He insisted so I said never mind. Im not into proving I’m hot enough for someone to take my money.
He replied “I’ll bet you’re in your 50s” and blocked me.
Bullet dodged.

I’ll be in Vegas for a work event and saw that Niccky is now there. Was pleased to see that, as I’d seen his and Middle Beastern profiles before but timing never worked.
He wanted pics of me (or at least stats) before he would commit. I declined, saying I’ll only share a pic once a date is made. He insisted so I said never mind. Im not into proving I’m hot enough for someone to take my money.
He replied “I’ll bet you’re in your 50s” and blocked me.
Bullet dodged.

PicckyNiccky 

Same recent experience. Though, I was quoted a rate.
He requested a picture and was blunt that its mandatory to meet (chemistry). To each their own, I respectfully moved on. In the moment it was a tad annoying since I had my sights on booking him for a few appointments. 

For what it's worth, ThicckyNiccky wanted to see my picture before he would commit to giving me his rate. I passed.

I’ll be in Vegas for a work event and saw that Niccky is now there. Was pleased to see that, as I’d seen his and Middle Beastern profiles before but timing never worked.
He wanted pics of me (or at least stats) before he would commit. I declined, saying I’ll only share a pic once a date is made. He insisted so I said never mind. Im not into proving I’m hot enough for someone to take my money.
He replied “I’ll bet you’re in your 50s” and blocked me.
Bullet dodged.