CHIberia

Update: just got back from London, and while the host was super friendly, things didn't go so smoothly. I had reached out a couple days before to get some portfolio emailed for a hotel visit, but never heard back. Thought I'd stop by, so I called ahead, and they told me they closed at 7, so I showed up around 5:30. The host was super friendly, but all the boys were leaving for the night. He suggested stopping by earlier in the day tomorrow, and he went through some photos if I wanted to schedule tonight. About half were Brazilian, and there was a Dutch guy, an Italian, a Spaniard, a Romanian and a Russian. The Russian was my favorite, cute twunky type. He told me he'd reach out and let me know about that night, but I never heard back. So that day was a bust.
I stopped by around 3pm the next day, he said the Russian would be available potentially that night. I asked about just doing an appointment while I was there. He did the two-way mirror thing and there were only three guys were there and they were really... rough. They looked like migrant twinks that weren't eating well and came straight off the street. It was a pretty depressing. I politely declined, saying they weren't really my type. The host acknowledged that winters had slim-pickings. I ended up not scheduling that night either.
The effort was there, and the interactions were extremely friendly, but it simply didn't work out. I'll probably be back in the spring, so hopefully things turn around.

While in FLL this week, one of the dancers at LeBoy mentioned a new strip club in Miami called Krave.  It's promoting itself as an "anything goes" kind of place for both women and men.  Fridays are more about the women, and Saturday is more men...  but there are both each night.  (The ratio on Saturday was about a little over a dozen guys and a couple of women dancers.)
KRAVING NAKED? - Krave Night Club Miami
HOTTESTCLUBMIAMI.COM Yes...  it's a fully nude club.  And it's VERY close to MIA airport.  It's definitely a "late night" club... it opens at 11PM on Saturday and runs till 5AM.  So it's not going to appeal to those early birds.  I was at Johnsons from 6-8, then from 8 till around 11:15 at Leboy.  That put me at Krave around midnight.  It's around 30 miles from Wilton Manor area.  

About a little more than half of the dancers are from Giovanni's parties at Boardwalk.  His Twitter has some videos from the last event and just some photos of other dancers:
https://twitter.com/giovannirosax/status/1642436153449037824?s=46&t=uROD8i4LhqIdZH58fhv3oA
https://twitter.com/giovannirosax/status/1639898131130138629?s=46&t=uROD8i4LhqIdZH58fhv3oA
https://twitter.com/giovannirosax/status/1641939825979695104?s=46&t=uROD8i4LhqIdZH58fhv3oA
https://twitter.com/giovannirosax/status/1641682928257081345?s=46&t=uROD8i4LhqIdZH58fhv3oA
https://twitter.com/giovannirosax/status/1639785912748892161?s=46&t=uROD8i4LhqIdZH58fhv3oA
They had a selection of twinks, guy next door, and some more muscular guys.  My personal favorite dancer was River, but he not have any photos and it was his first time working in the clubs.  He's never been to FLL, but looked AMAZING.  A little big to be a Twink, and a little small to be a real muscle guy....  so I suppose the right term is "twunk"?  (Pardon me, still need to fan myself thinking of him.)  I really hope he makes his way up into FLL somewhere and introduced him to Charles (who owns Leboy).  
The venue itself looks fantastic inside.  This was only their second week, and they're still working out the "new business" issues.  The drink prices were all over the place depending on the bartender.  My first drink (vodka/soda) was nearly $20...  but from a different bartender, I had two drinks (vodka/soda and vodka/cran) for the same price.  The second round from the same bartender was like 40 cents different.  <shrug>. Make sure to specify the brand of liquor you want, as the bartenders seem to default to higher brands from just watching a bit on the side.  
There is free parking in a lot across the street and some street parking in the area.  It's not in a super nice neighborhood, but was fine.  I did not feel unsafe.  The club had lots of security out front, and there is also valet parking on-site ($10).  They did not charge cover when I was there last week, but from what some of the dancers were saying if/when it starts getting popular, it might be added later and the guess was to be around $20 to get in if it happens.
In terms of private dances...  this is still very new and a work in progress.  MOST of the dancers did not even know how they worked.  
There are apparently multiple types of private dances available...  the first type was no house fee, just whatever you and the dancer agree to (most are used to $20 a song).  There is a small room off to the side of the bar that has two curtain entrances that are fully closed.  There were 3 chairs inside.  You and the dancer pick a chair and the dancer is fully nude.  Technically it's a shared room, so other dancers could have dances in those other two chairs, so not fully private.  The rumor is they're going to segment that area a bit more later.  
There is another more full private dance in a 100% solo room upstairs.  It's not ready yet, and no one could confirm an actual price for me... but the word was it's a 100% private experience once it's ready.  I would expect those to include a house fee and a dancer fee.   
While I was sitting around by myself watching the entertainment, the GM...  Lauren came up to me and gave me a free drink ticket.  She said it was because she loved my hair (which is currently a light blue color).  We had a chance to chat for a bit.  She says since they're in Hialeah, they're not tied to the same rules the clubs in FLL are and they're able to do a lot more.  She wants it to be an open/inclusive place for anyone that has any types of fetishes, etc.  I saw a guy with his "pup" on a leash walking through, another who wore somewhat of a halloween costume, etc.  
From their website:

Overall, I think the club has a ton of potential.  It's awesome seeing something basically replace Floppy Rooster in that neighborhood.  Loved most of the dancers and loved the venue itself.  My biggest complaint or area for improvement is basically behind the bar.   I would certainly go back again though!  
 

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I should clarify what I mean when I say "dumb, but sweet." It's meant to be a massive compliment.
I've had "high class" escorts that are stuck-up and pretentious, pretending to be sophisticated and high society (one of them even asked me to order a specific wine and pre-chill it 15 minutes before his arrival, lol).
These guys are the opposite: happy-go-lucky, personable and down-to-earth. "Dumb but sweet," kinda like Joey from friends, is just how they come off, which is refreshing.

I should clarify what I mean when I say "dumb, but sweet." It's meant to be a massive compliment.
I've had "high class" escorts that are stuck-up and pretentious, pretending to be sophisticated and high society (one of them even asked me to order a specific wine and pre-chill it 15 minutes before his arrival, lol).
These guys are the opposite: happy-go-lucky, personable and down-to-earth. "Dumb but sweet," kinda like Joey from friends, is just how they come off, which is refreshing.

I've been there on weekdays and weekends in the past, so I'm pretty familiar with the good peak times. Since I went on weekdays this time, I went around 1pm and the timing was perfect:  every rentboy that was going to come had arrived, and none had left. When I left at 4pm, they were clearing out. It was pretty solid each day.
I usually go before noon on weekends, but google actually has a feature that allows us to see how busy the place is in real time

my impression has always been that the better Bel Ami grade Czech guys when in Zurich didn't go to Paragonya much. of course after the agent's 30% the $150 they make on an outcall is no more than the $100 in the sauna and they can do multiples. maybe the guys always at the bar downstairs are the ones not getting clients upstairs. IDK. but for the less popular ones it would seem a risk paying $35 plus drinks to chance a $100 client when some days are almost empty. the crowd seems to have picked up so maybe they'll start coming back. a top one told me he makes more in Munich now and it's half as far to drive as Zurich from Prague. It is odd that escorts are so much less in Zurich than in Prague. But Prague has slower turnover and that's where their money is in Zurich. 
 

I've been there on weekdays and weekends in the past, so I'm pretty familiar with the good peak times. Since I went on weekdays this time, I went around 1pm and the timing was perfect:  every rentboy that was going to come had arrived, and none had left. When I left at 4pm, they were clearing out. It was pretty solid each day.
I usually go before noon on weekends, but google actually has a feature that allows us to see how busy the place is in real time

I've stayed several places other than the Schueble though I usually end up there. Avoid cheaper hotels further out as Ubers are outrageously expensive in Zurich. The expensive (even for Zurish) Park Hyatt is "ok" but across the river and sort of plain, inspite of the limousine always in the driveway. The Hotel Central is fine in the middle of Old City and historic. But my favorite for a "wow" factor is the Marriott on the north end of Old Town 5 or 6 blocks above the Paragonya area. If you have Platinum Elite it's possible to upgrade to a 30th or high floor room with an amazing view of Old City, Lake Zurich and the Alps. Right across the little bridge is the main train station and being where the airport highway enters the center, it's 10 minutes to ZRH.
Also booking today I found that while United awards are aleady sky-high in Business (175K miles), Premium is only 45K (the lowest PE fare) on some flights.. 

I can tell you I've had experience with three Czech guys recently in Zurich. All were incredibly honest, eager and inexpensive. It was almost too good to be true. Total dumb but sweet types. Two I met on Hunqz (who also showed up at the sauna), the other at the sauna (although I found his ad later). If you could work with them directly to maximize their profit, It would be a nice thing to do.
I will say that two of the three were pretty boring in bed, but it wasn't for a lack of effort. But if you're the take-charge alpha type in bed, they generally seem to make better pillow princes

Afternoon. The place pretty much clears out by 5pm, most of the rentboys start leaving before then. Depending on how many hookups you want and how long you want to use the facilities, I suggest getting there between 12pm and 2pm.
Personally, I hate using cabins: they're dark and cramped and uncomfortable (this is true everywhere for me, just a personal hangup I guess). So I usually do a little shopping and order delivery: I find a couple of guys I like and ask them to come over to my hotel once they're done at the sauna or later that night. They usually charge sauna rates after their shift as I generally stay at the Scheuble, which is literally around the corner, or Sorell Rutli, which is a 2 minute walk. They get to shower afterwards in a nicer, fully stocked bathroom and I usually offer drinks, so it's a mutually beneficial setup.
It's great setting up a schedule around this, I generally have an early breakfast in the hotel, do some am sightseeing/shopping, a small lunch head to the sauna, head back to my hotel for some fun, take a nap and then meet up with friends for dinner and drinks, maybe one more sauna connection to cap off the night.
In fact, if there are any apprehensive fellows that really want to try out Zurich, DM me, I plan on going a few times a year, so we can coordinate. I can always use a partner in crime, lol

Hey all! So I am just leaving Zurich, and I had a great time in Paragonya for three days.
 The soft opening seemed pretty successful. I was there three weekdays, and there were no shortages of rentboys or clients.
 The renovation itself was fantastic, albeit unnecessary imo. When I visited a year ago, the style may have been aging slightly, but everything was immaculate. That hasn’t changed. It’s got a moodier and trendy vibe with a focus mor on the wellness, with added cold shower dunks, a cold tub and foot soaks. The steam room and jacuzzi swapped places, and the steam room is smaller but much nicer. There’s no longer a maze inside. The sauna is now all-wood with that weird rock formation gone. It now has starlights and an entire glass paned wall. The jacuzzi is now at the end, and my recommendation is when you first go there, make a b-line to it, sit facing the hallway and observe all the people coming through: you’re less likely to be immediately disturbed and you get to do some uninterrupted shopping.
 Upstairs is untouched, lockers and restrooms are the same, and the lounge are basically got a facelift with chairs and loungers instead of sofas.
 Staff is as perfect as ever. I was a little surprised on how many really good looking 50-something clients were present and were crushing among each other instead of the rentboys. That was pleasant to observe.
 Escorts leaned a little more twinkish than when I was there 10 months ago, but the variety was still solid and the quality hasn’t changed. With the exception of a couple Romanians that make me weary based on their slight aggressiveness and the consensus here (one guy actually tried to charge 200chf, lol), the guys were very honest and charged around 100-120chf.
 If I had any complaints, it would be that the jacuzzi was not warm enough and the tile on the floor around it wasn’t nonslip like the steps, so be a little careful.
 Extremely successful update, and I strongly recommend people pay it a visit.

I can tell you I've had experience with three Czech guys recently in Zurich. All were incredibly honest, eager and inexpensive. It was almost too good to be true. Total dumb but sweet types. Two I met on Hunqz (who also showed up at the sauna), the other at the sauna (although I found his ad later). If you could work with them directly to maximize their profit, It would be a nice thing to do.
I will say that two of the three were pretty boring in bed, but it wasn't for a lack of effort. But if you're the take-charge alpha type in bed, they generally seem to make better pillow princes

Afternoon. The place pretty much clears out by 5pm, most of the rentboys start leaving before then. Depending on how many hookups you want and how long you want to use the facilities, I suggest getting there between 12pm and 2pm.
Personally, I hate using cabins: they're dark and cramped and uncomfortable (this is true everywhere for me, just a personal hangup I guess). So I usually do a little shopping and order delivery: I find a couple of guys I like and ask them to come over to my hotel once they're done at the sauna or later that night. They usually charge sauna rates after their shift as I generally stay at the Scheuble, which is literally around the corner, or Sorell Rutli, which is a 2 minute walk. They get to shower afterwards in a nicer, fully stocked bathroom and I usually offer drinks, so it's a mutually beneficial setup.
It's great setting up a schedule around this, I generally have an early breakfast in the hotel, do some am sightseeing/shopping, a small lunch head to the sauna, head back to my hotel for some fun, take a nap and then meet up with friends for dinner and drinks, maybe one more sauna connection to cap off the night.
In fact, if there are any apprehensive fellows that really want to try out Zurich, DM me, I plan on going a few times a year, so we can coordinate. I can always use a partner in crime, lol

Hey all! So I am just leaving Zurich, and I had a great time in Paragonya for three days.
 The soft opening seemed pretty successful. I was there three weekdays, and there were no shortages of rentboys or clients.
 The renovation itself was fantastic, albeit unnecessary imo. When I visited a year ago, the style may have been aging slightly, but everything was immaculate. That hasn’t changed. It’s got a moodier and trendy vibe with a focus mor on the wellness, with added cold shower dunks, a cold tub and foot soaks. The steam room and jacuzzi swapped places, and the steam room is smaller but much nicer. There’s no longer a maze inside. The sauna is now all-wood with that weird rock formation gone. It now has starlights and an entire glass paned wall. The jacuzzi is now at the end, and my recommendation is when you first go there, make a b-line to it, sit facing the hallway and observe all the people coming through: you’re less likely to be immediately disturbed and you get to do some uninterrupted shopping.
 Upstairs is untouched, lockers and restrooms are the same, and the lounge are basically got a facelift with chairs and loungers instead of sofas.
 Staff is as perfect as ever. I was a little surprised on how many really good looking 50-something clients were present and were crushing among each other instead of the rentboys. That was pleasant to observe.
 Escorts leaned a little more twinkish than when I was there 10 months ago, but the variety was still solid and the quality hasn’t changed. With the exception of a couple Romanians that make me weary based on their slight aggressiveness and the consensus here (one guy actually tried to charge 200chf, lol), the guys were very honest and charged around 100-120chf.
 If I had any complaints, it would be that the jacuzzi was not warm enough and the tile on the floor around it wasn’t nonslip like the steps, so be a little careful.
 Extremely successful update, and I strongly recommend people pay it a visit.

I can tell you I've had experience with three Czech guys recently in Zurich. All were incredibly honest, eager and inexpensive. It was almost too good to be true. Total dumb but sweet types. Two I met on Hunqz (who also showed up at the sauna), the other at the sauna (although I found his ad later). If you could work with them directly to maximize their profit, It would be a nice thing to do.
I will say that two of the three were pretty boring in bed, but it wasn't for a lack of effort. But if you're the take-charge alpha type in bed, they generally seem to make better pillow princes

What a splendid report.  Thank you. 

Wow. . Thanks for the report.  It came in handy during my insomnia  😝
The staff was /is  A+  Like the Sri Lanka manager.  he was so attentive and accommodating . Can’t wait to go back, tempted to go there instead of Prague in my upcoming Barcelona trip. 

And upstairs 😍 the memories 🤪🤪🤪  I went crazy 😜 so I have the boys  lining up taking turns with me, as I mentioned in another thread , I was able to get  some extra cash from the bar staff, using my cc

Hey all! So I am just leaving Zurich, and I had a great time in Paragonya for three days.
 The soft opening seemed pretty successful. I was there three weekdays, and there were no shortages of rentboys or clients.
 The renovation itself was fantastic, albeit unnecessary imo. When I visited a year ago, the style may have been aging slightly, but everything was immaculate. That hasn’t changed. It’s got a moodier and trendy vibe with a focus mor on the wellness, with added cold shower dunks, a cold tub and foot soaks. The steam room and jacuzzi swapped places, and the steam room is smaller but much nicer. There’s no longer a maze inside. The sauna is now all-wood with that weird rock formation gone. It now has starlights and an entire glass paned wall. The jacuzzi is now at the end, and my recommendation is when you first go there, make a b-line to it, sit facing the hallway and observe all the people coming through: you’re less likely to be immediately disturbed and you get to do some uninterrupted shopping.
 Upstairs is untouched, lockers and restrooms are the same, and the lounge are basically got a facelift with chairs and loungers instead of sofas.
 Staff is as perfect as ever. I was a little surprised on how many really good looking 50-something clients were present and were crushing among each other instead of the rentboys. That was pleasant to observe.
 Escorts leaned a little more twinkish than when I was there 10 months ago, but the variety was still solid and the quality hasn’t changed. With the exception of a couple Romanians that make me weary based on their slight aggressiveness and the consensus here (one guy actually tried to charge 200chf, lol), the guys were very honest and charged around 100-120chf.
 If I had any complaints, it would be that the jacuzzi was not warm enough and the tile on the floor around it wasn’t nonslip like the steps, so be a little careful.
 Extremely successful update, and I strongly recommend people pay it a visit.

Hey all! So I am just leaving Zurich, and I had a great time in Paragonya for three days.
 The soft opening seemed pretty successful. I was there three weekdays, and there were no shortages of rentboys or clients.
 The renovation itself was fantastic, albeit unnecessary imo. When I visited a year ago, the style may have been aging slightly, but everything was immaculate. That hasn’t changed. It’s got a moodier and trendy vibe with a focus mor on the wellness, with added cold shower dunks, a cold tub and foot soaks. The steam room and jacuzzi swapped places, and the steam room is smaller but much nicer. There’s no longer a maze inside. The sauna is now all-wood with that weird rock formation gone. It now has starlights and an entire glass paned wall. The jacuzzi is now at the end, and my recommendation is when you first go there, make a b-line to it, sit facing the hallway and observe all the people coming through: you’re less likely to be immediately disturbed and you get to do some uninterrupted shopping.
 Upstairs is untouched, lockers and restrooms are the same, and the lounge are basically got a facelift with chairs and loungers instead of sofas.
 Staff is as perfect as ever. I was a little surprised on how many really good looking 50-something clients were present and were crushing among each other instead of the rentboys. That was pleasant to observe.
 Escorts leaned a little more twinkish than when I was there 10 months ago, but the variety was still solid and the quality hasn’t changed. With the exception of a couple Romanians that make me weary based on their slight aggressiveness and the consensus here (one guy actually tried to charge 200chf, lol), the guys were very honest and charged around 100-120chf.
 If I had any complaints, it would be that the jacuzzi was not warm enough and the tile on the floor around it wasn’t nonslip like the steps, so be a little careful.
 Extremely successful update, and I strongly recommend people pay it a visit.

Hey all! So I am just leaving Zurich, and I had a great time in Paragonya for three days.
 The soft opening seemed pretty successful. I was there three weekdays, and there were no shortages of rentboys or clients.
 The renovation itself was fantastic, albeit unnecessary imo. When I visited a year ago, the style may have been aging slightly, but everything was immaculate. That hasn’t changed. It’s got a moodier and trendy vibe with a focus mor on the wellness, with added cold shower dunks, a cold tub and foot soaks. The steam room and jacuzzi swapped places, and the steam room is smaller but much nicer. There’s no longer a maze inside. The sauna is now all-wood with that weird rock formation gone. It now has starlights and an entire glass paned wall. The jacuzzi is now at the end, and my recommendation is when you first go there, make a b-line to it, sit facing the hallway and observe all the people coming through: you’re less likely to be immediately disturbed and you get to do some uninterrupted shopping.
 Upstairs is untouched, lockers and restrooms are the same, and the lounge are basically got a facelift with chairs and loungers instead of sofas.
 Staff is as perfect as ever. I was a little surprised on how many really good looking 50-something clients were present and were crushing among each other instead of the rentboys. That was pleasant to observe.
 Escorts leaned a little more twinkish than when I was there 10 months ago, but the variety was still solid and the quality hasn’t changed. With the exception of a couple Romanians that make me weary based on their slight aggressiveness and the consensus here (one guy actually tried to charge 200chf, lol), the guys were very honest and charged around 100-120chf.
 If I had any complaints, it would be that the jacuzzi was not warm enough and the tile on the floor around it wasn’t nonslip like the steps, so be a little careful.
 Extremely successful update, and I strongly recommend people pay it a visit.

Hey all! So I am just leaving Zurich, and I had a great time in Paragonya for three days.
 The soft opening seemed pretty successful. I was there three weekdays, and there were no shortages of rentboys or clients.
 The renovation itself was fantastic, albeit unnecessary imo. When I visited a year ago, the style may have been aging slightly, but everything was immaculate. That hasn’t changed. It’s got a moodier and trendy vibe with a focus mor on the wellness, with added cold shower dunks, a cold tub and foot soaks. The steam room and jacuzzi swapped places, and the steam room is smaller but much nicer. There’s no longer a maze inside. The sauna is now all-wood with that weird rock formation gone. It now has starlights and an entire glass paned wall. The jacuzzi is now at the end, and my recommendation is when you first go there, make a b-line to it, sit facing the hallway and observe all the people coming through: you’re less likely to be immediately disturbed and you get to do some uninterrupted shopping.
 Upstairs is untouched, lockers and restrooms are the same, and the lounge are basically got a facelift with chairs and loungers instead of sofas.
 Staff is as perfect as ever. I was a little surprised on how many really good looking 50-something clients were present and were crushing among each other instead of the rentboys. That was pleasant to observe.
 Escorts leaned a little more twinkish than when I was there 10 months ago, but the variety was still solid and the quality hasn’t changed. With the exception of a couple Romanians that make me weary based on their slight aggressiveness and the consensus here (one guy actually tried to charge 200chf, lol), the guys were very honest and charged around 100-120chf.
 If I had any complaints, it would be that the jacuzzi was not warm enough and the tile on the floor around it wasn’t nonslip like the steps, so be a little careful.
 Extremely successful update, and I strongly recommend people pay it a visit.

Hey all! So I am just leaving Zurich, and I had a great time in Paragonya for three days.
 The soft opening seemed pretty successful. I was there three weekdays, and there were no shortages of rentboys or clients.
 The renovation itself was fantastic, albeit unnecessary imo. When I visited a year ago, the style may have been aging slightly, but everything was immaculate. That hasn’t changed. It’s got a moodier and trendy vibe with a focus mor on the wellness, with added cold shower dunks, a cold tub and foot soaks. The steam room and jacuzzi swapped places, and the steam room is smaller but much nicer. There’s no longer a maze inside. The sauna is now all-wood with that weird rock formation gone. It now has starlights and an entire glass paned wall. The jacuzzi is now at the end, and my recommendation is when you first go there, make a b-line to it, sit facing the hallway and observe all the people coming through: you’re less likely to be immediately disturbed and you get to do some uninterrupted shopping.
 Upstairs is untouched, lockers and restrooms are the same, and the lounge are basically got a facelift with chairs and loungers instead of sofas.
 Staff is as perfect as ever. I was a little surprised on how many really good looking 50-something clients were present and were crushing among each other instead of the rentboys. That was pleasant to observe.
 Escorts leaned a little more twinkish than when I was there 10 months ago, but the variety was still solid and the quality hasn’t changed. With the exception of a couple Romanians that make me weary based on their slight aggressiveness and the consensus here (one guy actually tried to charge 200chf, lol), the guys were very honest and charged around 100-120chf.
 If I had any complaints, it would be that the jacuzzi was not warm enough and the tile on the floor around it wasn’t nonslip like the steps, so be a little careful.
 Extremely successful update, and I strongly recommend people pay it a visit.

i was there before covid ; i agree its not possible to take someone back to your hotel but guys are easy to find an eager and usually have somewhere they can take you (u'll need to cover the cost)
gay clubs are a good place to meet guys and rentboys liner on the street (la rampa) in the evenings

Renovation is complete.  Their Facebook page is advertising a soft opening tomorrow of their new facilities.