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Hey, hey ... No one is mad about you tipping 😘 But I never really go into an appointment thinking 'this person will probably tip me well.' If you're meeting with the same provider a second time, though, it's like you're starting to become a regular. Regulars get VIP treatment for sure. I know I'm repeating myself here, but it really matters way more than a tip.

I always assume people reach out to a few providers initially. Once we are in a two-way conversation, it's a little different. Hopefully clients aren't asking 3 different guys to come at the same time and then ghosting two of them 🤨

Thanks! Yes, it's been fun having that small business owner experience! Stay tuned for the OF!!

Sure, shit happens in any business. But with any business, leads need to be qualified. A bad actor can waste so much time, that that hourly rate you just mentioned would skyrocket if there wasn't SOME way of weeding out the abusers. That's where Ubers and small deposits come in. Beyond that, how can we really tell the scammers from the real clients? I'm not sure clients on this forum really comprehend the scale of the fake clients. It's like 40%-60% of all the incoming messages I get. Imagine how high the 'factored in rate' for LEGIT clients would have to be if 40% of messages were allowed to play out all their antics.

I grew up with lots of thuggy latinos and even thuggy asians. There are definitely parts of the country where white guys fit that descriptor too. Eminem comes to mind. And if you read up on the history, it was originally from India. So I'm definitely calling bullshit on this.

I certainly believe that happens, especially when messaging famous porn-star providers that don't really have time for new clients. Here's what a time-waster looks like from the provider side: "Are you into this specific niche thing?" "How exactly would you react if I did niche thing?" "Can I have a picture of some obscure part of your body?" "I have a really long story about an elaborate situation I'm planning with a provider! make that 3 providers!! Would you be interested? Let's discuss every detail of how you'd act in my fantasy. (I promise I'm not just using you for sexting right now! This is a legit inquiry!)" Then ... after a week of silence at 2 am ... "Hey can you come to BFE New Jersey right now?"

I hope he picks NYC 😄😍 South Florida kinda sucks (And I've heard this from other escorts too). No one is willing to pay, and the travel times are harsh.

If this is true, I'm very impressed 😁

Why not take him at his word? Because it makes no sense. If he can't see clients, why update the ad with the location?

You're right, I never thought about how calling someone now with no warning, is like just showing up at someone's house was 20 years ago. And repeatedly calling is like pounding on the door! Technology has changed the social custom around that (not every generation agrees to what extent it has). But like 150+ years ago, it was pretty normal to just show up at someone's place, right? Pemberley was 'Open For Visitors" 😄

Yeah well, or maybe I'm just new and dumb. But I really do wanna find clients that want more than just the physical.

Anything CAN be a kink. Dom and rope-daddy are almost always used in a sexual context. Are you saying frat bro is a racial category? 🤔 This is getting pretty weird.

That's not what it meant to ME in this context. Just speaking for myself, but I have a feeling most people in here feel the same. Dom and Rope Daddy are sex kink terms. Thug is not.

Every escort is weighing up the time he'll spend for the entire event, including transit time, against the money they'll get. If you live in an area that is remote from the area where most of your local escorts live, there's an opportunity to sweeten the deal a lot with transportation thrown in. Because Uber cost way less than 300 an hour. Think about it, if you can save your escort an hour of time for $60, that's beneficial to both of you. I'd never ask a client who lived in Midtown for an Uber. But if you're talking Nassau County or Newark, for sure I am.

I'm not sure exactly which part of the discussion you're talking about for part (A). Someone said OP left part of the story out? That's almost always true of any retelling of anything. As for (B), absolutely I think this was 100% avoidable by the client, if you wanna call that 'blame'. And that's because: (C) 'Thug' is a style/lifestyle that spans really all racial and ethnic groups. It's a lifestyle associated with homophobia and violence. Fantasies aside, 'Thug culture' really doesn't seem to me to be compatible with a beginner hiring.

I don't think anyone here thinks physical assault is okay for any reason. I think there's a group of people on this thread saying this guy acted more-or-less as advertised, with only a small amount of 'reading between the lines' of what's in the ad. Easy to fix next time around!

There's very little shit-talking going on. 90% of what providers complain about is having their time wasted/stolen.

I can definitely understand your concern--It's a risky way to play. I agree doing a FaceTime could help reduce the risk, although I wouldn't necessarily rule-out providers that won't do that (see other posts about why providers avoid calls). The times that I've done this as the first meeting, it was arranged as a 2 or 3 hour booking with an option to extend. You agree on the price of both scenarios ahead of time. From the provider's perspective, a firm commitment for a nice long booking at the end of the day isn't much of a risk. That's basically the best use of an evening for a provider. The only better scenario being an overnight, but those are unusual gigs. And if the provider any good at all, they'll feel confident in their ability to convince you to take option B 😉 From your side, if it's not what you hoped for, you just don't take the option.

I completely agree! It's definitely a fad I don't understand (as a spectator sport). If someone wants to edge me, I'm all for it. I'll add that I've been approached by photographers that have a side-hustle running an OF page, and that's what they're asking to make with me. I guess they know the market.

Wow, I have some really good ones.... That hardly anyone will ever see 😭

What do you mean by 'full reviews'?

I'm curious: Are there actually any legit escort services these days? I figure if they do exist, someone on this forum must have done business with them.

It really is the only job I can think of where people expect you to be on-call ALL THE TIME. Even ER doctors are only on the hook for a defined period of time where they can be called in.

Really?

Voice isn't any more private than e2e encrypted text like WhatsApp. Basically, governments will find a way to read it if they want either way.