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Yeah, if you read the whole article about this French doctor in the NYT, you will find out that of the more than 1000 patients he treated with hydroxy, about 2 per cent died, a number of others were left with permanent health impacts, and the rest recovered. In other words, about the same outcome for those not treated. In a smaller study he conducted earlier, he omitted the cases where the patient died so his test results looked better. As a result he was dropped by two official bodies of the French government as a authorized scientific collaborator. It seems he had some successes early in his career years ago and then over time became full of himself. Now his studies and papers are largely ignored by the scientific and medical community.

I read somewhere that the treatment being given to some patients is actually causing the mutations to multiply. Its the treatment where blood plasma is used from previously infected patients who recovered. Not to be too alarmist since most mutations do not present more risk of dying and in fact some cause weaker symptoms. But still, something that has to be watched, which I assume scientists are doing.

Actually I don't think that is true any more. While washing your hands frequently during the day is still important and also helps avoiding other infections like the common flu, here in Canada we are being told most transmission is via breathing in the virus. Therefore it is more important to wear masks when near people in public and avoid prolonged exposure to strangers of over several minutes. Contracting the virus from touching surfaces that are infected and then touching your face is not considered to cause more than about 2 per cent of cases. And we are being told to forget all that advice about washing your groceries before handling them in food preparation.

Not great numbers in Canada but given our relative size in population to the United States, the deaths and number of cases is quite a bit less than half per capita.

Well, when I watch bi films, if there are 2 guys and one chick, then the guys are bi since they are engaging with each other too. When it’s 1 guy, which this guy says he likes, and 2 chicks, well the guy is straight and the chicks are bi. Simple.

Dream on

He sounds more straight than bi.

He looks nicely equipped. Cut for those who like that.

I’d like to see the Beeb take on Prime Minister Justin Trudeau in the ring. Two Canadian boys slugging it out. Very similar physiques. One blond, one brunette. Pick your favourite.?

This is what struck me about the OP and his problem encountered in trying to set up a date including dining at a restaurant. Since many of us live in jurisdictions both in the US and Canada where indoor dining is prohibited, I am rather envious of those who are able to carry on in the midst of a raging pandemic as if nothing is amiss. I wonder if this is the common experience for posters on this forum, that is, business as usual in the dating game. Or are they having to modify their behaviour.

I remember when the rate went from $10 to $20; it was in the late 90s I believe. For a time it was $10; in an open arrangement and $20 with more privacy, as I remember. Then it became $20 for any lap dance song. At Campus they eased the pain by installing better and more booths with more privacy. The dancers and clients could get away with more if they wanted to but stil had to be careful as a staff member would wander back from time to time To check on things. It was around this time that Le Stock opened on Ste Catherine and Montcalm Sts. The old club had been on a side street east of Berri and was actually more fun for someone like me. I had some amazing experiences there..They had a pool table where you could chat up the dancers, like at Campus. I was back at Campus about a year and a half ago and while still fun, not as wild as 20:years ago.

They are. You don’t want to be drunk coming down them.

I remember once approaching the entrance to Campus and just as I opened the door this customer came crashing down the stairs, landing in a limp pile at the bottom. Maybe that was the guy pushed down by the dancer. One always has to keep in mind that if it isn’t the dancer, the bouncer might do the same. Unruly customers include those who don’t pay up what they owe and try to argue about it. It is not worth it to act this way. I value my health more than a few lousy bucks someone wants to argue about.

I think this basically comes down to what your disposable income is for most folks and what you are comfortable paying for, whether it be an escort or a restaurant meal. These are both luxuries in a way, especially if the restaurants are not just mom and pop establishments or fast food outlets. Also at play is the occasion you are marking. For both a meal or an escort, if you are celebrating something special like a birthday, you are more likely to splurge. Same if you are on vacation and visiting a different place far from home. I hire frequently and often for overnights or entire evenings of say 3 or 4 hours. I expect to pay at least 1000$ and a meal or two thrown in. That’s just me. Sometimes I’ll settle for a 1 hour quickie. I consider $250 to $350 the usual fee I will consider. But I wouldn’t rule out somewhat more for a superstar, say a famous pornstar, just for the experience. These have been few in my case.

Well there is that porn star who sometimes escorts who can take a fist up to the shoulder so I can see a mere 10 inch dildo disappearing into the nether regions if proper precautions aren’t taken. ?

One other comment I would make is that you seem to be equating dancers, escorts and street hustlers as all interchangeable commodities with time spent being the only variable. You are overlooking the quality of the different services these individuals offer. My experience is the dancers are generally very good looking, have great bodies, and large equipment. That is why they feel confident getting on a public stage and displaying their wares to entice clients to the back rooms. Escorts who advertise on the Internet use photos or videos which we all know can be deceptive. Not saying all are but there can be disappointments when you see the equipment up close. And then you refer to street “escorts”. This is not a proper term to use; these are street hustlers and its AYOR if you resort to hiring them.

That’s never happened to me. The extras though are usually only thrown in, so to speak, after at least 3 songs. Once I get to 5 songs if the extras haven’t happened I terminate the dance. It would be embarrassing if the dancer came up with extra charges afterwards. Not sure how I would respond. It would depend on what club I was in. That would never happen at Campus, imo.

The curves in the door frame match the curves in his ass. They were both affected by the manipulation of the photo.

The hustlers in days of yore could be found in the evenings during the good weather in the small park behind the Bourbon Complex on Ste Catherine. There were many regulars and some were a lot of fun. You could feel safe taking them home. I never picked up one on StevCatherine St itself as many were junkies just looking for a quick fix. The Bourbon complex is gone and being redeveloped as a condo. Haven’t tried that park in ages.

Having been a lap-dance client for decades, I find you arguments somewhat disingenuous. The first time I entered a strip club, I made myself familiar with the rules and the fees as anyone would in a new environment. After all, money in considerable amounts is involved. Even if the rates aren't posted in the club, you merely have to ask a dancer what they are. It is inconceivable that a dancer would say or imply $15 for as long as it takes you to get off. The obligation is on the client to clarify what the fees are. This might be difficult if you are a newbie and the the dancer excites you. I have never heard of a dancer saying the lap-dance is $15 or whatever, no matter how long it lasts. These are dances set to music after all, just like in high school. After dancing with a girl in high school, when the music ended, she was free or yourself, to express thanks for the dance and move on. It's the same in a stripper bar. All your examples of set fees for haircuts or massage, etc are irrelevant. Absolute red herrings. And I have never been in a club where they play 10 minute songs. The dancers would object! Usually 2 and a half to 3 and a half minutes, like most pop tunes.. Talking after the dance ends, is another issue. If he continues to sit on your lap, you are on the clock. To make clear that the clock has been turned off, you as the client, must make moves to get out of the booth. That allows the dancer to put his clothes back on and physical contact is ended. The two o you can continue talking as this is going on but the dancer knows that the clock is off and will usually be in a hurry to get out and see if he can find other clients. I'm sorry your friend had a bad experience but it sounds to me like his expectations were unrealistic.

We seem to be on the same page. With a dancer I already know I will indicate that 5 songs or $100 is in the cards. We both know what to expect. With those I have not been with previously but think he will be good, after some conversation with me asking questions and not just him (dancers who have not met you previously will always have their stock questions to pepper you with), I will use the strategy outlined by me above. It's sort of a probation proposal, meaning you, the dancer, are on probation during the first dance. If you excel, there will be more songs and more $$.

Sometimes I will say to a new dancer I haven’t met before is that I will do one dance and then depending on how it goes we can decide if I want to continue. I find that that usually guarantees at least one good dance. Things tend to move along pretty quickly in getting the dancers clothes off at least.

In all the dancer bars I’ve been in in Canada and the US, there is an ATM where one can get cash. You usually have to pay a service fee of a couple of dollars to get your money but if you find yourself short for any reason, at least you can pay for whatever service you enjoyed. Stiffing a dancer because you misunderstood the rules or didn’t count the number of songs properly is no excuse imo.

It sounds like your friend was pretty naive. I can see why the dancer was pissed off.

As a footnote on Ms. Tennant, she was the granddaughter of the 11th Duke of Devonshire and her grandmother was the youngest of the famous Mitford sisters, one of whom went to jail during WWII as a Nazi sympathizer and another being a famous author. The heir apparent to the 10th Duke of Devonshire, the Marquess of Harrington, was married to Kathleen Kennedy, the sister of President Kennedy. He was killed in the war before he could assume the title of Duke. She died in a plane crash in 1948. Tennant was a direct descendant of Bess of Hardwick, the one time richest woman in Britain, and builder of the opulent Elizabethan Hardwick Manor. In a curious way, Tennant was not a rags to riches story, but rather a riches to rags story.