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Wow, he’s packing in the front and the back! And handsome. Buddylisting him in case he re activates.

I think people are being too harsh on you @pupiggy I’m so sorry you were disappointed with your experience. Occasionally, tops can’t get hard. That definitely would have been an issue had you explicitly booked him in order to get fucked. I honestly would have asked for my money back and sent him away. If he didn’t return it, then a bad review on RM, as well as on here, is very much justified. 👍 Seems you invited another top over and the two escorts spent more time with each other than with you. That would be disappointing for sure, but I wouldn’t count it as warranting a bad review. You would be consenting to his presence in the moment. Again, sorry this happened to you 😞- next time a client is unable to get hard (given you booked them so you can get fucked), ask for your money back and for them to kindly leave, and if they don’t do so, a bad review and a thread here are valid. It can be intimidating to ask a guy to leave and to get your money back. I feel like people aren’t putting themselves in your shoes lol. But that would be the thing to do. P.S- Given @Yukon21 ‘s previous thread, there is definitely reason to be suspicious of this provider.

Damn lol! Any details on what went wrong?

Very understandable point. I like to think that the market sorts itself out on the issue of deposits- providers who ask for deposits almost certainly get less clients in the end, and they may decide to not ask for deposits in the future.

There, expectedly, are not as many provider perspectives on here about deposits as there are client perspectives. The side that voices their concerns more on here are clients, who are wary of being scammed. There are malicious/callous/time wasting “clients” too, and there are many honest providers who may rightfully request deposits. From interactions with providers, I’ve learned that they get scammers that text them *daily*. Their profiles on RM are possibly often the first targets of scams. Then there are time waster clients who might be more frequent than most people on here think. Finally, there are, sometimes, seriously people who want to harm providers or violently rob them. Deposits might leave a financial trace , deterring violence against the provider. Deposits can serve many, many, functions, and I understand why providers ask for them. Flaking when setting up an appointment in advance, (especially a long one like an overnight) is not kind to the provider, and it might be justified for them to be reimbursed for you wasting their time and also making them decline offers for you. I don’t believe you should do deposits frequently, and I think that if you consider doing it for someome, you should 1. Really really be interested in the guy you’re hiring- there are plenty of guys that don’t do deposits. 2. Check on here about them, or check in with someone who has reviewed them on RM

This is, in my opinion, one of the best perspectives on here regarding deposits.

A hidden cause can be prostate inflammation. If you’ve ever been a top and had a very messy 💩 encounter with the bottom, and you find that you spontaneously can’t get hard hours later or the next day , it could be due to ecoli or other bacteria from poop that traveled up your urethra, infected your prostate, leading it to swell, and messing with erectile response. I learned this myself recently after going to doctor for it. Many providers I’ve hired (tops) also know this, and it’s partly why they might insist on safe sex- this issue can clearly mess with their money. Poop is an incredible vector/transporter of disease. Sex and the prostate: Overcoming erectile dysfunction when you have prostate disease - Harvard Health WWW.HEALTH.HARVARD.EDU ...

Yup classic suspicious signs: image quality is “instagram-like”. Provider is very very good looking (in my opinion), and quite muscular. An image search (I haven’t bothered to do one) might show that he’s using someone else’s pictures. Maybe if he did photo verification on Rentmen, I would trust him.

I have a similar experience lol! I’m happy to hear you’ve mostly not had issues doing them (and probably has to do with the fact that you check reviews on RM and here as well) Same here!

Agreed. At the least, I don’t think any of them ought to be publically shamed lol 😂

I need to learn to be this classy when responding to an unreasonable person 👏 👏

All agreeable points! Personally, I mostly hire locally and rarely have a need to do deposits. I limit my searches on rentmen to those with: 1. At least 11 reviews. 2. Ratings of 4.7 or above. 3. Ability to do a facetime chat 4. Recent pics (excellent if verified) For flyouts, I actually only have 4 guys who I keep in rotation lol. (But I hire them quite often). I rave about them occasionally here. But I made sure to get *direct* feedback from clients who hired them. Stellar reviews on RM as well as on here (company of men) are mandatory as well, and I have to get a trustworthy “feel” from the FaceTime. This case with JamesHeart seems like a sad anomaly among individuals with good reviews. Maybe I will get flaked on one day indeed. I guess it’s the game we play. But I’m glad there is a mechanism (such as this site) for retribution against such behavior.

I don’t want to spark another discussion on deposits here lol. But this JamesHeart person definitely ought to know that until he returns it his reputation will be soiled. I suspect his account spontaneously deactivated because he received an initial ….. message about it 😉

I would say that there are some situations in which deposits would be a good part of the deal. This includes this situation, where JimmyS seemed to be booking time in advance with someone who was flying in to see them. Maybe JimmyS didn’t sponsor that flight- and that might makes the deposit less necessary. But for us clients who enjoy bringing highly reputed escorts in from other states, deposits can be important. Maybe when hiring a local provider for an hour or 2,, one should indeed not do a deposit. But even locally, distance to get to me can often be a concern, and honest providers don’t want their time and gas money wasted. I at least Uber them to me, as an investment that signals my interest in meeting them (and also allows me to track their journey to me). I also am pro deposit when hiring for overnights, even locally. - as these bookings often happen in advance, and providers often clear their schedules for these. It’s never great to flake last minute on someone who declined other lucrative opportunities for you- it’s money lost to them as well. And they may have even altered their diet for such an overnight appointment. To be sure, there are bad actors out there, and for most situations where I hire, I don’t do deposits. But there are cases where I believe they are helpful.

I wouldn’t say you’re naive for making a deposit for a 5-star rated , seemingly highly experienced escort. I’m shocked this happened too! I regularly make deposits (and even fly guys out to NYC) as long as they have stellar reviews, and I’ve spoken to someone who has booked them for something expensive. Have never had any issues for the past 3 years with this method. James definitely needs to know that there are reputational consequences.

For more certainty, can you screenshot the RM block image and put it here? This adds confidence to your allegations without divulging anything too sensitive. Not that I don't believe you, it just helps as evidence suggesting that he is a deceptive person.

I gave him a try, as I love his type in particular. Excellent service for that 1 hour lol. Great, versatile guy. I could have asked for more hours, but I wouldn’t be respecting myself if I actually paid his rate for 2 hours lol 😂. He’s texting somewhat frequently. With his youth, his newness to escorting, and the corresponding insane price, I have a hunch he doesn’t get many clients calling back lol. TLDR; he was a great fuck, but that’s my opinion. Maybe you shouldn’t risk paying $700 and not getting an experience you don’t want lol.

Should note he’s based in LA, though traveling right now.

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I agree- I believe phrase 1 is better than phrase 2, and was trying to emphasize the difference between the two. You might find some providers reply to your initial outreach with a rate included , just to make sure the conversation is worth continuing (if you can’t pay it, no reason to continue). Good on you for establishing their availability and proximity first.

Honestly, some escorts are dangerous individuals. Not all, but some. I would let him know that you would soon out him on this site- a very influential website, and word would get around quickly that he is a fraudulent provider. Sending his address could be seen as too great a provocation- and he might react in a way you may not expect.

Now, I definitely do understand that there may be a difference between 1. “Hello! Hope you’re well! You’re so hot!. I’m in NYC, are you available tonight? What are your rates?” 2. “How much”.