VictorMcHugh

Just returned from four nights in PVR - completely easy to get around as tourist traffic still hasn’t picked up.  Good news is visits to 69 and Wet Dreams made meeting the dancers easy.  However, there were fewer customers, so I could barely take a sip of my cocktail before another dancer was asking for a shower tip or private dance.  Both were fun!

PV is totally calm and safe right now. The burned vehicles have been cleared. There is clean up to do for the burnt out stores. My friends all report they are back to their daily routines. All the bars and clubs opened last night or will be opening tonight. Restaurants and stores are open. Flights are back on track. All is good. 

PV is totally calm and safe right now. The burned vehicles have been cleared. There is clean up to do for the burnt out stores. My friends all report they are back to their daily routines. All the bars and clubs opened last night or will be opening tonight. Restaurants and stores are open. Flights are back on track. All is good. 

PV is totally calm and safe right now. The burned vehicles have been cleared. There is clean up to do for the burnt out stores. My friends all report they are back to their daily routines. All the bars and clubs opened last night or will be opening tonight. Restaurants and stores are open. Flights are back on track. All is good. 

PV is totally calm and safe right now. The burned vehicles have been cleared. There is clean up to do for the burnt out stores. My friends all report they are back to their daily routines. All the bars and clubs opened last night or will be opening tonight. Restaurants and stores are open. Flights are back on track. All is good. 

PV is totally calm and safe right now. The burned vehicles have been cleared. There is clean up to do for the burnt out stores. My friends all report they are back to their daily routines. All the bars and clubs opened last night or will be opening tonight. Restaurants and stores are open. Flights are back on track. All is good. 

PV is totally calm and safe right now. The burned vehicles have been cleared. There is clean up to do for the burnt out stores. My friends all report they are back to their daily routines. All the bars and clubs opened last night or will be opening tonight. Restaurants and stores are open. Flights are back on track. All is good. 

PV is totally calm and safe right now. The burned vehicles have been cleared. There is clean up to do for the burnt out stores. My friends all report they are back to their daily routines. All the bars and clubs opened last night or will be opening tonight. Restaurants and stores are open. Flights are back on track. All is good. 

PV is totally calm and safe right now. The burned vehicles have been cleared. There is clean up to do for the burnt out stores. My friends all report they are back to their daily routines. All the bars and clubs opened last night or will be opening tonight. Restaurants and stores are open. Flights are back on track. All is good. 

I have been in touch with several of my stripper friends down in PV. They are all safe but worried about the hit on the economy and went without much food yesterday. To answer the question about private dances, I have no specific advice about how to get more service in privates but it has never been hard for me to get what I want. It helps to be a repeat customer and to suggest you may want more to happen in the private prior to going back and paying for your booth. I have been amazed by the range of guys, from muscled twunks, to rough trade-looking guys, to physically perfect muscle gods that get on their knees or offer up their ass. I do feel like 69 attracts my guys who just want to get blown. Wet seems to have a range of boys that are willing to do more but I also seem to know them better and that may be a part of it. 

PV is totally calm and safe right now. The burned vehicles have been cleared. There is clean up to do for the burnt out stores. My friends all report they are back to their daily routines. All the bars and clubs opened last night or will be opening tonight. Restaurants and stores are open. Flights are back on track. All is good. 

All is actually quiet now, though tourism will take a hit for a while. Which was one point of the cartel attack - a power play against the government.
https://www.travelweekly.com/Mexico-Travel/Americans-shelter-in-place-in-Puerto-Vallarta-embassy-alert

I have been in touch with several of my stripper friends down in PV. They are all safe but worried about the hit on the economy and went without much food yesterday. To answer the question about private dances, I have no specific advice about how to get more service in privates but it has never been hard for me to get what I want. It helps to be a repeat customer and to suggest you may want more to happen in the private prior to going back and paying for your booth. I have been amazed by the range of guys, from muscled twunks, to rough trade-looking guys, to physically perfect muscle gods that get on their knees or offer up their ass. I do feel like 69 attracts my guys who just want to get blown. Wet seems to have a range of boys that are willing to do more but I also seem to know them better and that may be a part of it. 

I have been in touch with several of my stripper friends down in PV. They are all safe but worried about the hit on the economy and went without much food yesterday. To answer the question about private dances, I have no specific advice about how to get more service in privates but it has never been hard for me to get what I want. It helps to be a repeat customer and to suggest you may want more to happen in the private prior to going back and paying for your booth. I have been amazed by the range of guys, from muscled twunks, to rough trade-looking guys, to physically perfect muscle gods that get on their knees or offer up their ass. I do feel like 69 attracts my guys who just want to get blown. Wet seems to have a range of boys that are willing to do more but I also seem to know them better and that may be a part of it. 

So I’m in Puerto Vallarta right now. I spent the first week with some friends at an all inclusive. I was able to break away a couple nights first went  to Antropology.  There was a muscular dancer from Mexico City. I think Richard was his name. He has a small tweak friend who is From Colombia both were straight had fun with some couch dances and they offered me a private. I held off because it was too early in the trip went to wet dreams and stood at the bar by the shower and others have mentioned. This is a great spot you can tell other dancers that you’re only tipping shower dances. Make sure you bring enough 20s to tip others that you talk to for a couple of minutes. I didn’t have a private there but the dancers working pace went to club 69 much more muscular guys at this location. It was dead quiet I came. I was the only customer in the place. I didn’t stay long because it was awkward again beautiful man checked out. Be mine actually a lot of fun some really good looking dancers at this bar as well. 
 
What I’ve noticed is all the dancers I’ve spoken with, and the people giving massages too only offer to have you sucked their dick, but no one will reciprocate. No matter how much you offer.  Any guidance in this area would be appreciated.  You can PV me if you like. 

i’ve been a little under the weather the last few days so I can only stay out for a little bit. I hope to feel better by tonight since this is my last night in Puerto Vallarta this is a beautiful city with great food and beautiful men. I have some pesos to blow so I will report back tomorrow.

check out Vida la Vida and ask for Santiago 

Yes. It is just down the block from the new construction going up on the corner. It is next to the club CODE. Usually there are two or three guys standing in front. Was last there in beginning of November and was still open. Relax Spa is around the corner from there. There are always guys willing to give a mediocre massage but sex is pretty much guaranteed. A couple cute guys work there. Acqua is great for a quality massage and spa experience but have never had sex there. Hamam was hit or miss for me. A unique, pleasurable spa experience. The first guy I was with did way more than a massage with me and we ended up meeting up later.

I had an amazing massage yesterday from Mauro at Thrive Med Spa - very strong and deep. Highly recommend- was $125USD for 90 min.

Yeah I've always used it interchangeably with "trade"

I found this, among several options.....
Chacales usually are working-class men—often employed as construction workers, water-bearers, or mechanics—who exchange sexual favors with gay men.

I have been to 69 several times the last few weeks. Some very hot guys. I have a few regulars. A great mix of muscle guys, twinks and chacales. Sometimes if you go too early, they will sit around and ignore you until the owner tells them to get off their phones. Often I get a drink and sit down and one or two will attach themselves to me right away. I make it clear what I am looking for from the beginning. If I am not interested, I tell them I will buy them a drink but then will be moving on to someone else with whom I want to spend some personal time. 

It really depends on the guy. Most of the guys at Wet will let you suck them. At 69 it is hit or miss. Some of the ones that are straight and wanting to do the bare minimum thing a private dance is just striping to their underwear and letting you watch them touch their semi-hard dick. At B-Mine is seems even the guys that are probably straight trade will let you suck them and get into it. It seems I end up paying them about. 1500-2000 peso tip when there is oral involved at Wet. Some of them will suck you, make out, let you suck them, eat their ass, offer to let you fuck them. Once there is penetration, we are looking at 4000 pesos. I have had a few come over before their shift or at other times and for 4000 pesos, have them in my place, jerk off together, suck them, eat their ass, have them straddle my face, jerk me off. A few engage in fucking, flip flop. I have had a few offer me their ass at the club to fuck but I don't like fucking in the booths for some reason. 

Very important to negotiate before going into a private dance. If the guy is newer and appears a little timid with being touched by other men, even if he is very flirtatious, you may get no action in the private dance and still expected to pay a big tip. I have had that happen a few times at 69. I have several guys I know well at this point so I often know what to expect from them and see them in and out of the club. It can be nice to just invite them over, pay for them to leave or meet up with them before the night begins and pay the same amount for one one one time in the comfort of your own bed. 
When I have a guy at my side all night at Wet or 69 or B-Mine, I buy them drinks all night but usually don't tip them all night and they seem fine with it. Usually it is because they are expecting a private dance at some point. Private dances are usually 600 pesos to enter at Wet, 500 at 69. I forget how it works at B-Mine. The tippers expect at least a 500 peso tip. If you have sex and you cum, they will want a 2000 to 4000 tip. Some of the more popular guys will insist on a tip closer to 4000. I have had some very hot experiences in the VIP with guys and not had to tip much more than 500-600 pesos. Depends on the guy, how new they are, how popular they are. 

Lots of folks have talked about their own tipping habits in these bars in various parts of Latin America.  Each man has various levels of showing their appreciation so you’ll have to make some judgments for yourself about how to spend your money.
Comparatively, I understand that part of why many of us go to Mexico is that things are just cheaper than say Ft. Lauderdale or New York or Montreal. So, you have to run your budget numbers. I will say, my experience is that typically the guys go with the highest bidder. If I am spending money on a guy and he has another patron who is giving more money to enjoy the dancer’s gifts and talents, the dancer should go where he wants. Usually that ‘s to make more money. I have had occasions where dancer’s have said to me that they didn’t want to go with another patron because they weren’t respectful of the dancer’s boundaries. So, sometimes it’s not just about the money, it’s also about the vibe you put out and the vibe the dancer is going for. If they’re just tryna make cash, then they’re going with the highest bidder!
I will say for myself, I think someone spending 10 minutes of their time is worth more than $5 - ESPECIALLY if I am groping groping their muscles and enjoying their body. I understand that some patrons get more for less. And I’m okay with that. I usually pick the guys I want to enjoy and I spend what I need to with them to keep their interest. Sometimes that’s more; sometimes that’s less. 

I agree, Gio, the manager is really hot. I always suggest that he dance but he won't. I did a private with one a few nights ago. He was ok, kind of sexy but gave gay for pay vibes. Not as into it as he could have been but sexy.  In general B-Mine does not have the best range of dancers. I like the space there and sometimes it is fun but not my favorite.