VictorMcHugh

yes, the strippers in PV are all saying it is slow. I have seen some photos of Wet completely empty. Some are talking about leaving for CDMX since they cannot earn enough with the drop in tourism.

PV is totally calm and safe right now. The burned vehicles have been cleared. There is clean up to do for the burnt out stores. My friends all report they are back to their daily routines. All the bars and clubs opened last night or will be opening tonight. Restaurants and stores are open. Flights are back on track. All is good.

I have been in touch with several of my stripper friends down in PV. They are all safe but worried about the hit on the economy and went without much food yesterday. To answer the question about private dances, I have no specific advice about how to get more service in privates but it has never been hard for me to get what I want. It helps to be a repeat customer and to suggest you may want more to happen in the private prior to going back and paying for your booth. I have been amazed by the range of guys, from muscled twunks, to rough trade-looking guys, to physically perfect muscle gods that get on their knees or offer up their ass. I do feel like 69 attracts my guys who just want to get blown. Wet seems to have a range of boys that are willing to do more but I also seem to know them better and that may be a part of it.

I saw Mauro three different times during my most recent stay in PV. It was fucking amazing. Worth every penny.

No, not at all. In gay Latino culture, "chacales" is more of a reference to masculine, working class younger guys.

I have been to 69 several times the last few weeks. Some very hot guys. I have a few regulars. A great mix of muscle guys, twinks and chacales. Sometimes if you go too early, they will sit around and ignore you until the owner tells them to get off their phones. Often I get a drink and sit down and one or two will attach themselves to me right away. I make it clear what I am looking for from the beginning. If I am not interested, I tell them I will buy them a drink but then will be moving on to someone else with whom I want to spend some personal time.

I agree, Gio, the manager is really hot. I always suggest that he dance but he won't. I did a private with one a few nights ago. He was ok, kind of sexy but gave gay for pay vibes. Not as into it as he could have been but sexy. In general B-Mine does not have the best range of dancers. I like the space there and sometimes it is fun but not my favorite.

I have been there a few times this past week and have a couple more weeks here in PV. I have a handful of favorites, some I prefer to see outside the club. I don't mind tipping but I don't like when someone approaches me for a tip for a shower dance or pole dance when obviously I did not see the show because I am on the other end of the club. I typically just tell guys that I don't have change and I will tip them later if I don't want to give them something.

Yes. It is just down the block from the new construction going up on the corner. It is next to the club CODE. Usually there are two or three guys standing in front. Was last there in beginning of November and was still open. Relax Spa is around the corner from there. There are always guys willing to give a mediocre massage but sex is pretty much guaranteed. A couple cute guys work there. Acqua is great for a quality massage and spa experience but have never had sex there. Hamam was hit or miss for me. A unique, pleasurable spa experience. The first guy I was with did way more than a massage with me and we ended up meeting up later.

It really depends on the guy. Most of the guys at Wet will let you suck them. At 69 it is hit or miss. Some of the ones that are straight and wanting to do the bare minimum thing a private dance is just striping to their underwear and letting you watch them touch their semi-hard dick. At B-Mine is seems even the guys that are probably straight trade will let you suck them and get into it. It seems I end up paying them about. 1500-2000 peso tip when there is oral involved at Wet. Some of them will suck you, make out, let you suck them, eat their ass, offer to let you fuck them. Once there is penetration, we are looking at 4000 pesos. I have had a few come over before their shift or at other times and for 4000 pesos, have them in my place, jerk off together, suck them, eat their ass, have them straddle my face, jerk me off. A few engage in fucking, flip flop. I have had a few offer me their ass at the club to fuck but I don't like fucking in the booths for some reason.

For legit spa with male staff, I like Acqua and Hamam. Hamam is a full Turksih spa experience. It can be very sensual. I have had a range of experiences there. Acqua gives great, very professional service. I did the vichy massage and full body oil massage combo last time I was there. I will admit I was hoping it would lead to a happy ending but did not.

Very important to negotiate before going into a private dance. If the guy is newer and appears a little timid with being touched by other men, even if he is very flirtatious, you may get no action in the private dance and still expected to pay a big tip. I have had that happen a few times at 69. I have several guys I know well at this point so I often know what to expect from them and see them in and out of the club. It can be nice to just invite them over, pay for them to leave or meet up with them before the night begins and pay the same amount for one one one time in the comfort of your own bed. When I have a guy at my side all night at Wet or 69 or B-Mine, I buy them drinks all night but usually don't tip them all night and they seem fine with it. Usually it is because they are expecting a private dance at some point. Private dances are usually 600 pesos to enter at Wet, 500 at 69. I forget how it works at B-Mine. The tippers expect at least a 500 peso tip. If you have sex and you cum, they will want a 2000 to 4000 tip. Some of the more popular guys will insist on a tip closer to 4000. I have had some very hot experiences in the VIP with guys and not had to tip much more than 500-600 pesos. Depends on the guy, how new they are, how popular they are.

I also think they have an order for who may be dancing/performing and sometimes private dances get interrupted because they are supposed to be on stage. I have had that happen a few times with dancers.

I have had some pretty lengthy sessions in the basement rooms at 69. It seems it is up to the guy how long they want to go. I have actually had to end it because it went on so long at times.

I agree with all of your comments about the clubs in PV. I have been several times and have had the same experiences. I am curious about the comment about the dancers at Casa Cupula doing services in the side area. I have never ventured down to the "Secret Garden" and presumed it was for guests to play. The dancers have always been chatty and flirty with me and given me their numbers, but did not realize there was on site service. I am intrigued by this.