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I knew a guy who charged well above market rate. He said he gets about 4 clients a month doing that and that's all he wanted. For some it's not necessarily about maximizing revenue. All the power to them. Decline and move on.

I knew a guy who charged well above market rate. He said he gets about 4 clients a month doing that and that's all he wanted. For some it's not necessarily about maximizing revenue. All the power to them. Decline and move on.

I put discount in quotes here because it's not really asking for discounts but having lower per hour rates for longer sessions as a matter of course.

I knew a guy who charged well above market rate. He said he gets about 4 clients a month doing that and that's all he wanted. For some it's not necessarily about maximizing revenue. All the power to them. Decline and move on.

I knew a guy who charged well above market rate. He said he gets about 4 clients a month doing that and that's all he wanted. For some it's not necessarily about maximizing revenue. All the power to them. Decline and move on.

I knew a guy who charged well above market rate. He said he gets about 4 clients a month doing that and that's all he wanted. For some it's not necessarily about maximizing revenue. All the power to them. Decline and move on.

Yeah i've mostly been dealing with guys who charge the same rate every hour and i've been really appreciating these guys who offer 90 minutes lately. 1 hour usually feels just short enough that the session feels a little rushed or i can feel the time ticking by. I can kinda become aware of the provider hitting their beats/cues ya know? 2 hours often leaves me with about 30-40 minutes where i need to just talk/hangout with the provider (which, depending on the provider i don't necessarily want that from them lol) or i just leave early leaving time/money on the table. So 90 minutes usually is just right for me unless it's a provider i have good rapport with and can enjoy the chill time with them after the exciting part is done.
Similar to what some others have stated here. A new guy I'm about to try soon quoted me 300 for first hour and 150 each hour after that. If he performs how i hope he does he's going to shoot up to the top of my regulars list  😆

They have the right to charge whatever they want because there are people happily paying those prices (and higher), and you have the right to book someone who charges less because there are plenty of people charging less. Some providers are simply out of our price range and in someone else's and that's ok. Someone else sees the value you don't. So i really wouldn't let yourself get that "ooo i'm too good for this price" feeling and wanting a bunch of us here to co-sign that lol. That's the start and end of what i think about it personally. There is no "reasonable" price for any of this, it's not a legal market (in most places) and we aren't owed this hobby being cheap/affordable (there are plenty of affordable options though, you might just have expensive tastes your wallet can't keep up with, which is relatable).

I promise you none of those providers care. This isn't some hill of nobility you're dying on.

I put discount in quotes here because it's not really asking for discounts but having lower per hour rates for longer sessions as a matter of course.

Yah I don’t know why mods haven’t banned this guy 

Are you a bot?

I've also seen a lot of guys recently be ok with 90 min if you can't decide between one or two hours. One guy quoted me 300 for one hour, 500 for two. I said how about 400 for 90 min and he said sure.

Biggest discount in my experience was $300 for the first hour, $150 for the second. 

Yeah mine is 300 for first hour 200 for each hour after. Which from speaking to others have found to be pretty average

Yes 🚩! My second hour is 15% less than the first hour. I don’t publish rates longer than 2 hours but the % reduction would be about the same. It really depends on the set up and my willingness to do a longer session. I generally am not keen to do multiple hours so I’d price it accordingly. 
I had one guy ask me for my rate for a 4 hour booking. I gave him a number. He divided that by 4, came up with an hourly rate….and then asked to book just an hour. Smart. Of course I said ‘sorry it doesn’t work like that, the first hour is more expensive’ so he said ‘ok I’ll book just the 4th hour then please’ 😳
 

Side=Not into anal penetration. Not side hustling/sex work.

Side=Not into anal penetration. Not side hustling/sex work.

Yes! I've come to realize I actually enjoy it more than anal.
I was recently with a guy where we both came this way. We were both oiled up and he was on top of me. As he was thrusting against my torso, the friction from his torso was stimulating me at the same time. I love this because it provides direct cock stimulation while maximizing skin to skin contact. I clasped my hands around him as he thrusted with enough power to rock the bed against the wall. That does so much more for me than getting my hole pounded.
I don't really understand why this position isn't more popular among gay/bi men. It provides opportunity for an active and passive role, stimulates both cock simultaneously, and to me provides a higher level of intimacy. And no annoying anal prep. I feel like it should have a name more specific than frottage which seems like more of an umbrella term and also has an antiquated air to it.
One downside with this position is that with shaved pubic hair in its 'prickly' phase the experience can be a bit scratchy.

Yes! I've come to realize I actually enjoy it more than anal.
I was recently with a guy where we both came this way. We were both oiled up and he was on top of me. As he was thrusting against my torso, the friction from his torso was stimulating me at the same time. I love this because it provides direct cock stimulation while maximizing skin to skin contact. I clasped my hands around him as he thrusted with enough power to rock the bed against the wall. That does so much more for me than getting my hole pounded.
I don't really understand why this position isn't more popular among gay/bi men. It provides opportunity for an active and passive role, stimulates both cock simultaneously, and to me provides a higher level of intimacy. And no annoying anal prep. I feel like it should have a name more specific than frottage which seems like more of an umbrella term and also has an antiquated air to it.
One downside with this position is that with shaved pubic hair in its 'prickly' phase the experience can be a bit scratchy.

Well...shaving pubic hair is disgusting and people should stop doing it. 
Glad you are enjoying the pleasures of body-to-body gliding.

Yes! I've come to realize I actually enjoy it more than anal.
I was recently with a guy where we both came this way. We were both oiled up and he was on top of me. As he was thrusting against my torso, the friction from his torso was stimulating me at the same time. I love this because it provides direct cock stimulation while maximizing skin to skin contact. I clasped my hands around him as he thrusted with enough power to rock the bed against the wall. That does so much more for me than getting my hole pounded.
I don't really understand why this position isn't more popular among gay/bi men. It provides opportunity for an active and passive role, stimulates both cock simultaneously, and to me provides a higher level of intimacy. And no annoying anal prep. I feel like it should have a name more specific than frottage which seems like more of an umbrella term and also has an antiquated air to it.
One downside with this position is that with shaved pubic hair in its 'prickly' phase the experience can be a bit scratchy.

I think the short, and maybe uncomfortable answer is that there are a lot of people out there who make (and have) a lot of money. Supply and demand is what it is. There are enough of those people out there that rates are what they are. I think that for many who hire, it's not much of a sacrifice financially. Time is the more limited resource for them.

Nipple piercings. I don't like any piercings at all, but something about nipple piercings in particular really drains any desire I have for a guy.

Nipple piercings. I don't like any piercings at all, but something about nipple piercings in particular really drains any desire I have for a guy.