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i recently had time w oliver… wasn’t impressed with the massage, outdated pics, and almost immediate jump to “release” during the massage. he seems like a nice guy, but i felt a mix of being catfished and leaving like i didn’t get a solid massage. 

Hold up. Please listen. You owe this guy nothing. We here thank you for you relating this experience. I will not hire him based on this. Yes he may still be hot but his behavior is inexcusable and it kills me that he misrepresented himself and yet you feel guilty when you have been anything but unkind.  You are not ugly. Get that out of your head and while true that I have never seen you some of us would look inferior to super hot guys. But I would prefer knowing you due to your genuine personality.....we can get hairy legs and a great ass from someone else. Please do not be inferior to anyone. Ever. I hope this  comment gets to you.

You're very diplomatic.  It's good to hear that he's not a jerk, but under the circumstances, I don't think he should be offering a sensual option.  It's awesome that he's engaged and has consequently set stricter boundaries for the type of massages he provides, but given those new boundaries, it's misleading for him to offer anything but therapeutic.  I'm glad you questioned him because it sounds like he would have accepted the full amount otherwise.  That would have been really uncool.  And there's no need for you to put yourself down whatsoever  

While on the topic of Oliver, I’m surprised there aren’t more mentions of how heavily altered his photos are. 
 
Oliver was the first guy at TWS to catch up interest when I saw his photo. At the time he only worked one day a week and schedules never aligned. I also really enjoyed my sessions with Alex and Andre so I was happy to continue booking them. 
 
When I finally booked Oliver, I was shocked at how different he looked in person.  I felt like I had been duped. The massage itself wasn’t much of a massage. It was a one and done situation for me. 
 

Ive been to Oliver several times the past couple of years. Saw him again recently, he is consistently better each visit 

I’ve been following this group for a while and finally wanted to share my thoughts. I’ve been to this place, tried most of the therapists, and also met some from RM I usually tip around $60–$100 for 60 mins depending on the service i get.
I was honestly surprised to see some negative comments trying to ruin therapists’ reputations just because expectations weren’t met or someone had a bad experience. If you’re going to share that, you should also mention how long your session was, what you expected (normal massage or extra), and how much you tipped.
I really feel bad for the therapists. They get criticized publicly but don’t get a chance to defend themselves. If you’re unsure about tipping, just check RM and you will get the idea how much should you tip them
I spoke with  a therapist, and he was very open about his experience. After hearing stuffs. It honestly made me feel bad. He said he often gets tips like $20–$30 even with extra service. He was not happy BUT still has to smile and stay professional. If he asks for more, he risks getting accused online of upselling. If he shows he’s unhappy, people review him as rude or arrogant.
All I want to say is just put yourself in their position. Would you be happy doing that work for that amount of money?

I’d like to share a quick thought. Recently, I tried sessions with two new therapists, and it gave me some perspective.
It turns out that the spa owners and staff do read the posts in this forum. When it comes to massage quality or communication with clients, they genuinely appreciate feedback and are willing to improve. However, there have been some negative comments that aren’t entirely accurate, and unfortunately, they don’t have a way to publicly respond or clarify those points.
Some of the therapists have also expressed that they would prefer discussions here to focus on the massage itself, rather than other topics. They’ve mentioned feeling uncomfortable and even a bit unsafe,knowing that this is a public forum that anyone, including outside parties or authorities, can access.
For anything beyond general massage experiences, it might be more appropriate to discuss privately via DM. There have also been situations where clients come in expecting specific things because they read about it here, and then try to direct the therapist to do exactly that. It’s important to remember that every therapist has their own boundaries and professional choices, and it’s completely their right to decide what they are or aren’t comfortable offering.
Let’s be respectful of that and avoid putting pressure on them.

An important note: $30 for this type of massage is not a “very good tip.” That’s a solid tip for a hour standard massage at an Asian massage parlor, but not for the type of massage you describe. It doesn’t take much searching on these forums to discover that you’re tipping below the expected rate. Leaving tips like this will result in masseurs feeling like they need to initiate negotiation during the session which most of us do not like to experience. 

Too many to share in one post, but I met up with a masseur from RM whose picture did not match in person. It was the same guy, but he was much older. I still decided to go for it and let him know via email and text my preference. During the massage, he was blowing on my back which was odd and then on the flip, climbed up on the table and shoved his bottom into my face. This was NOT was I wanted or expecting at all and I had to basically tap him out to get him off. After that, the massage was cut short by 30min because I was turned off but the entire experience and he still had the nerve to ask me for a tip. 
 
That’s just one story…

Haven't seen him yet but I texted and asked; he's at least open to being nude with mutual touch

Same...used to work out at his gym... he's very hot, but haven't gotten a massage from him before

i recently had time w oliver… wasn’t impressed with the massage, outdated pics, and almost immediate jump to “release” during the massage. he seems like a nice guy, but i felt a mix of being catfished and leaving like i didn’t get a solid massage. 

i recently had time w oliver… wasn’t impressed with the massage, outdated pics, and almost immediate jump to “release” during the massage. he seems like a nice guy, but i felt a mix of being catfished and leaving like i didn’t get a solid massage. 

I can't really speak to his massage skills. But I can say that I used to work out with Steve at his studio on La Brea, and I always thought he was attractive, nice, and extremely personable. I can only imagine that he carries that over to his massage services. 

Bump

He’s sharing a space with Alex https://www.masseurfinder.com/massage-therapists/51964/ (who is phenomenal btw). 
Kind of disappointed to learn Alex is living with this guy as I just assumed he was solo/single, Not sure if they’re in a relationship but there’s a business connection as Alex is in the acting industry and this guy is as well. He’s quite older than Alex so not sure what the connection is. 

Can you share more about your experience with Alex @IlyaRozanov? How was his massage techinque/skill?

Saw a new posting and wondered if anyone had any experience with Steve? He looks hot and his profile sounded cool. Although I wondered if it was therapeutic-only?
https://www.masseurfinder.com/massage-therapists/52398/
 

Interesting. Was hoping to hear he was open to more.

I assume a generous tip helps these young men a lot. 
I agree with the response above for guidance.  Perhaps look at the going rates on Rentmasseur for more ideas how to level up the amount.
I don't know how much the spa takes, but I keep in mind they do get a portion.
 

A critique of his photo positioning is not a review of an experience with him which is the premise of the post.  I think ANYONE can see the variance in tattoos.  Too often is the site littered with irrelevant and sometime catty opinions of providers.  Maybe look for posts that have a subject line "WHAT DO YOU THINK OF HIS PHOTOS?"

Not a critique. An observation. The accumulation of tattoos on his body are indicative of some out of date pictures, from no tats to arm tats to a chest tat. You don't accumulate that many tats without a passage of a good amount of time. It's a rare instance of us, as consumers, being able to ID the more recent vs. the more dated pictures.

Had one of the best massages of my life from Mike at Prince Men’s Spa in West Hollywood. He’s very professional and provided exactly what I needed. Left completely satisfied and will def go back. 

This sounds very much like a scam unrelated to the masseurs in question, one of whom I have met without incident. I get “PayPal” scam requests routinely and I haven’t used PayPal in over 15 years. A phone has been hacked. I would ignore, just like I ignore the sweet Nigerian lady who wants to send me $10 million if only I provide her with all my banking details and a $5,000 handling fee. 😂😂😂
I would not respond or worry myself. 

I doubt you'll find anyone with more than one dick.  Let alone 8 of them.