RyanCross

The gentleman in question seems more than capable of defending himself.
 

That's true of any message board, though. By and large, trolls get bored and toddle away if they're ignored.
Personally, I really value the input of the providers who post here and I think Mr Cross sounds like he has interesting things to say. Plus, there's always the possibility of his finding work here. I've met a couple of providers through this site, one of whom is likely to become a firm favourite.

What did you study? Want to compare and contrast our reading lists of the past year? You can ask me to write on any of the books on my list and I'll ask you to do the same with your list, then we can let the others decide who is better spoken and possessing of more depth. I must say though, those who value grammar at the expense of substance tend to never impress me much.

Okay, I guess Basstiann is better. To quote the first sentence of his post:
 
the people who is writing here are probably just frustrated guys
😆
 

Basstiann, since you're one of Ryan's competitors in the Chicago market, I would think you'd have the courtesy not to use this forum to try and smear your colleagues.
I read your long post on a different thread, and I read Ryan's here. You would benefit from some of his education and humility.

I found Ryan to be courteous and polite, IMHO. 

He's not close to me and not my type. However, I am sure it doesn't really require knowing him as a competitor, or potential client, to assign the word rude. It really only requires the ability to read a rude and condescending monologue written by Ryan.
Likewise, while I can't testify to his education, reading his writing allows me to assume he wasn't an English or hard science major. His poor grammar, punctuation, and logic skills don't support a degree in those fields from a good university.

I don't do drugs and I don't have bi-polar. What I do have is freedom. To be able to discern who I meet and who I don't meet is one of the few benefits this job provides. I claim it as my continued right. Fortunately for providers, unfortunately for entitled clients, this is not a conventional business where the usual dynamics and mores of a service industry apply. It is a two-way two-sided contractual transaction where both parties have the freedom to decide on who they meet. I can see why some would take issue with this right of providers and the existing dynamic, but that would suggest maybe they're the one with a psychiatric problem or some stunted interpersonal skills not I. 

I have a very strong financial incentive to meet you. Others are correct that I stand to financially benefit with ensuring an appointment follows through with you or if you cancelled, we meet another time. That is in my economic and financial interest. As indicated on here and my reviews, I've also met with countless others with no problems. So, if your personality or sense of entitlement is that much of a disincentive for me to meet, perhaps that calls for some introspection on your part? Essentially what it means is that I came to the conclusion that your negative attributes outweigh the very real financial incentive for me to meet with you as I have met with many others over the course of many years. However, I realize that it is easier and more effortless for some who lack this capability of introspection to instead convince themselves that the other person is crazy or on drugs. That delusion requires less work rather than confronting the reality that maybe you need some improvement in how you communicate and relate to others. If you can't even pay me hundreds of dollars to meet with you as I've done with countless others in this work (and in my personal hook up life I might add), then I sincerely don't know how such an individual can flourish interpersonally in this society. 
 
If this particular individual is who I think it is, then they have over eight complaints on MyNumber from eight different providers than myself. This leads me to caution others on here to not take everything that is claimed on here at face value. There are always two sides to an event or interaction. 
 
The website has a very judiciously sound, fair, reasonable and timeless rule when it comes to leaving reviews. If I did not meet you, then you don't get to leave a review. Isn't that great? According to the website:

If you did not meet the Escort no matter the circumstance the Review will not be approved. Since the Reviews are subject of approval, RentMen webadmin has the right to reject a review"

If someone attempts to leave a review without me agreeing to meet you or without us ever meeting, I simply message the admin with the receipts and documentation. To reference Tony Kushner's play, I am not Roy Cohn. I do not have clout. I am a homosexual.
 
If one is to do this, please do compare it with the correlations that may or may not exist with the IQ, level of agreeableness or social skills of the clients who like me versus the clients who dislike me. I'm more curious if correlational patterns exist there versus which phases of the moon, we're in.  That may better help in making sense of this great unsolvable mystery. Of course, that is if we are to think no correlation exists between those who actually met me versus those who I didn't even end up meeting.

As stated elsewhere, I've been doing this for a very long time. Some may even say too long. I've learned to watch carefully to subtle words and tone. My ability to detect whether it is going to work with a client is usually pretty immediate. A sense of entitlement can't hide itself very long. My senses end up being vindicated quite regularly because the reaction of a client to my rejection of them usually reveals further what kind of person they are. I also sometimes play a game where I'll say to myself after the first or second message "I bet this client has had complaints on Mr.Number". And time and time again, I'll be right when I look up their number. Sure enough, a handful of providers have complained about their time being wasted or a persistent pernicious arrogance that occurs in the appointment. 

Over the decade, there has been a very noticeable decline in client etiquette. The regression of society and our culture has been widespread and encompassing. Client and provider etiquette in this industry has not been immune to this bigger societal shift. It is an end of an era. When I started in this work, people didn't waste time. Date, time, location, and preferences were communicated clearly, timely and effortlessly. That was the norm back then, today it is the exception. Then people didn't act like I was their waiter or cashier. There was less ghosting, less last-minute abrupt cancellations, less flakiness, less of an attitude of "I'm the one paying". There was a sense of class and courtesy with clientele in these arrangements. A drink at a nice hotel bar before going up. An appointment that was scheduled days in advance. A nice meal before or after. Less unpaid labor and time wasting before meeting. Prompt and to the point on arranging, and more class/personality when time was spent together. Things have changed. I've heard others on the client-side label this development "the grindrification of escorting" when complaining of providers. In my experience, the regression has been on both sides of the deal. It's becoming something different than what it used to be. It's something else. I'm just glad that I got to experience its previous form while it lasted. I have a deep lasting gratitude that I got to live its final days before it dived into a lot of the current crap and nonsense. I'm glad my early days did not start in today's era. The time of decency is gone. 

I appreciate your kind words and take no offense. I should add an addendum that not all is lost. Not everything is forsaken. Glimpses of a more decent epoch still occur. Gentlemen of class still very much exist within the ranks of today's clientele. Though such individuals are fewer in number, their contributions and counteractions do not go unnoticed or unappreciated. While today's rookies in the industry largely missed out, I do hope that some of them get a taste of what once was and still could be. 

I don't do drugs and I don't have bi-polar. What I do have is freedom. To be able to discern who I meet and who I don't meet is one of the few benefits this job provides. I claim it as my continued right. Fortunately for providers, unfortunately for entitled clients, this is not a conventional business where the usual dynamics and mores of a service industry apply. It is a two-way two-sided contractual transaction where both parties have the freedom to decide on who they meet. I can see why some would take issue with this right of providers and the existing dynamic, but that would suggest maybe they're the one with a psychiatric problem or some stunted interpersonal skills not I. 

I have a very strong financial incentive to meet you. Others are correct that I stand to financially benefit with ensuring an appointment follows through with you or if you cancelled, we meet another time. That is in my economic and financial interest. As indicated on here and my reviews, I've also met with countless others with no problems. So, if your personality or sense of entitlement is that much of a disincentive for me to meet, perhaps that calls for some introspection on your part? Essentially what it means is that I came to the conclusion that your negative attributes outweigh the very real financial incentive for me to meet with you as I have met with many others over the course of many years. However, I realize that it is easier and more effortless for some who lack this capability of introspection to instead convince themselves that the other person is crazy or on drugs. That delusion requires less work rather than confronting the reality that maybe you need some improvement in how you communicate and relate to others. If you can't even pay me hundreds of dollars to meet with you as I've done with countless others in this work (and in my personal hook up life I might add), then I sincerely don't know how such an individual can flourish interpersonally in this society. 
 
If this particular individual is who I think it is, then they have over eight complaints on MyNumber from eight different providers than myself. This leads me to caution others on here to not take everything that is claimed on here at face value. There are always two sides to an event or interaction. 
 
The website has a very judiciously sound, fair, reasonable and timeless rule when it comes to leaving reviews. If I did not meet you, then you don't get to leave a review. Isn't that great? According to the website:

If you did not meet the Escort no matter the circumstance the Review will not be approved. Since the Reviews are subject of approval, RentMen webadmin has the right to reject a review"

If someone attempts to leave a review without me agreeing to meet you or without us ever meeting, I simply message the admin with the receipts and documentation. To reference Tony Kushner's play, I am not Roy Cohn. I do not have clout. I am a homosexual.
 
If one is to do this, please do compare it with the correlations that may or may not exist with the IQ, level of agreeableness or social skills of the clients who like me versus the clients who dislike me. I'm more curious if correlational patterns exist there versus which phases of the moon, we're in.  That may better help in making sense of this great unsolvable mystery. Of course, that is if we are to think no correlation exists between those who actually met me versus those who I didn't even end up meeting.

As stated elsewhere, I've been doing this for a very long time. Some may even say too long. I've learned to watch carefully to subtle words and tone. My ability to detect whether it is going to work with a client is usually pretty immediate. A sense of entitlement can't hide itself very long. My senses end up being vindicated quite regularly because the reaction of a client to my rejection of them usually reveals further what kind of person they are. I also sometimes play a game where I'll say to myself after the first or second message "I bet this client has had complaints on Mr.Number". And time and time again, I'll be right when I look up their number. Sure enough, a handful of providers have complained about their time being wasted or a persistent pernicious arrogance that occurs in the appointment. 

Over the decade, there has been a very noticeable decline in client etiquette. The regression of society and our culture has been widespread and encompassing. Client and provider etiquette in this industry has not been immune to this bigger societal shift. It is an end of an era. When I started in this work, people didn't waste time. Date, time, location, and preferences were communicated clearly, timely and effortlessly. That was the norm back then, today it is the exception. Then people didn't act like I was their waiter or cashier. There was less ghosting, less last-minute abrupt cancellations, less flakiness, less of an attitude of "I'm the one paying". There was a sense of class and courtesy with clientele in these arrangements. A drink at a nice hotel bar before going up. An appointment that was scheduled days in advance. A nice meal before or after. Less unpaid labor and time wasting before meeting. Prompt and to the point on arranging, and more class/personality when time was spent together. Things have changed. I've heard others on the client-side label this development "the grindrification of escorting" when complaining of providers. In my experience, the regression has been on both sides of the deal. It's becoming something different than what it used to be. It's something else. I'm just glad that I got to experience its previous form while it lasted. I have a deep lasting gratitude that I got to live its final days before it dived into a lot of the current crap and nonsense. I'm glad my early days did not start in today's era. The time of decency is gone. 

I appreciate your kind words and take no offense. I should add an addendum that not all is lost. Not everything is forsaken. Glimpses of a more decent epoch still occur. Gentlemen of class still very much exist within the ranks of today's clientele. Though such individuals are fewer in number, their contributions and counteractions do not go unnoticed or unappreciated. While today's rookies in the industry largely missed out, I do hope that some of them get a taste of what once was and still could be. 

I don't do drugs and I don't have bi-polar. What I do have is freedom. To be able to discern who I meet and who I don't meet is one of the few benefits this job provides. I claim it as my continued right. Fortunately for providers, unfortunately for entitled clients, this is not a conventional business where the usual dynamics and mores of a service industry apply. It is a two-way two-sided contractual transaction where both parties have the freedom to decide on who they meet. I can see why some would take issue with this right of providers and the existing dynamic, but that would suggest maybe they're the one with a psychiatric problem or some stunted interpersonal skills not I. 

I have a very strong financial incentive to meet you. Others are correct that I stand to financially benefit with ensuring an appointment follows through with you or if you cancelled, we meet another time. That is in my economic and financial interest. As indicated on here and my reviews, I've also met with countless others with no problems. So, if your personality or sense of entitlement is that much of a disincentive for me to meet, perhaps that calls for some introspection on your part? Essentially what it means is that I came to the conclusion that your negative attributes outweigh the very real financial incentive for me to meet with you as I have met with many others over the course of many years. However, I realize that it is easier and more effortless for some who lack this capability of introspection to instead convince themselves that the other person is crazy or on drugs. That delusion requires less work rather than confronting the reality that maybe you need some improvement in how you communicate and relate to others. If you can't even pay me hundreds of dollars to meet with you as I've done with countless others in this work (and in my personal hook up life I might add), then I sincerely don't know how such an individual can flourish interpersonally in this society. 
 
If this particular individual is who I think it is, then they have over eight complaints on MyNumber from eight different providers than myself. This leads me to caution others on here to not take everything that is claimed on here at face value. There are always two sides to an event or interaction. 
 
The website has a very judiciously sound, fair, reasonable and timeless rule when it comes to leaving reviews. If I did not meet you, then you don't get to leave a review. Isn't that great? According to the website:

If you did not meet the Escort no matter the circumstance the Review will not be approved. Since the Reviews are subject of approval, RentMen webadmin has the right to reject a review"

If someone attempts to leave a review without me agreeing to meet you or without us ever meeting, I simply message the admin with the receipts and documentation. To reference Tony Kushner's play, I am not Roy Cohn. I do not have clout. I am a homosexual.
 
If one is to do this, please do compare it with the correlations that may or may not exist with the IQ, level of agreeableness or social skills of the clients who like me versus the clients who dislike me. I'm more curious if correlational patterns exist there versus which phases of the moon, we're in.  That may better help in making sense of this great unsolvable mystery. Of course, that is if we are to think no correlation exists between those who actually met me versus those who I didn't even end up meeting.

As stated elsewhere, I've been doing this for a very long time. Some may even say too long. I've learned to watch carefully to subtle words and tone. My ability to detect whether it is going to work with a client is usually pretty immediate. A sense of entitlement can't hide itself very long. My senses end up being vindicated quite regularly because the reaction of a client to my rejection of them usually reveals further what kind of person they are. I also sometimes play a game where I'll say to myself after the first or second message "I bet this client has had complaints on Mr.Number". And time and time again, I'll be right when I look up their number. Sure enough, a handful of providers have complained about their time being wasted or a persistent pernicious arrogance that occurs in the appointment. 

Over the decade, there has been a very noticeable decline in client etiquette. The regression of society and our culture has been widespread and encompassing. Client and provider etiquette in this industry has not been immune to this bigger societal shift. It is an end of an era. When I started in this work, people didn't waste time. Date, time, location, and preferences were communicated clearly, timely and effortlessly. That was the norm back then, today it is the exception. Then people didn't act like I was their waiter or cashier. There was less ghosting, less last-minute abrupt cancellations, less flakiness, less of an attitude of "I'm the one paying". There was a sense of class and courtesy with clientele in these arrangements. A drink at a nice hotel bar before going up. An appointment that was scheduled days in advance. A nice meal before or after. Less unpaid labor and time wasting before meeting. Prompt and to the point on arranging, and more class/personality when time was spent together. Things have changed. I've heard others on the client-side label this development "the grindrification of escorting" when complaining of providers. In my experience, the regression has been on both sides of the deal. It's becoming something different than what it used to be. It's something else. I'm just glad that I got to experience its previous form while it lasted. I have a deep lasting gratitude that I got to live its final days before it dived into a lot of the current crap and nonsense. I'm glad my early days did not start in today's era. The time of decency is gone. 

I don't do drugs and I don't have bi-polar. What I do have is freedom. To be able to discern who I meet and who I don't meet is one of the few benefits this job provides. I claim it as my continued right. Fortunately for providers, unfortunately for entitled clients, this is not a conventional business where the usual dynamics and mores of a service industry apply. It is a two-way two-sided contractual transaction where both parties have the freedom to decide on who they meet. I can see why some would take issue with this right of providers and the existing dynamic, but that would suggest maybe they're the one with a psychiatric problem or some stunted interpersonal skills not I. 

I have a very strong financial incentive to meet you. Others are correct that I stand to financially benefit with ensuring an appointment follows through with you or if you cancelled, we meet another time. That is in my economic and financial interest. As indicated on here and my reviews, I've also met with countless others with no problems. So, if your personality or sense of entitlement is that much of a disincentive for me to meet, perhaps that calls for some introspection on your part? Essentially what it means is that I came to the conclusion that your negative attributes outweigh the very real financial incentive for me to meet with you as I have met with many others over the course of many years. However, I realize that it is easier and more effortless for some who lack this capability of introspection to instead convince themselves that the other person is crazy or on drugs. That delusion requires less work rather than confronting the reality that maybe you need some improvement in how you communicate and relate to others. If you can't even pay me hundreds of dollars to meet with you as I've done with countless others in this work (and in my personal hook up life I might add), then I sincerely don't know how such an individual can flourish interpersonally in this society. 
 
If this particular individual is who I think it is, then they have over eight complaints on MyNumber from eight different providers than myself. This leads me to caution others on here to not take everything that is claimed on here at face value. There are always two sides to an event or interaction. 
 
The website has a very judiciously sound, fair, reasonable and timeless rule when it comes to leaving reviews. If I did not meet you, then you don't get to leave a review. Isn't that great? According to the website:

If you did not meet the Escort no matter the circumstance the Review will not be approved. Since the Reviews are subject of approval, RentMen webadmin has the right to reject a review"

If someone attempts to leave a review without me agreeing to meet you or without us ever meeting, I simply message the admin with the receipts and documentation. To reference Tony Kushner's play, I am not Roy Cohn. I do not have clout. I am a homosexual.
 
If one is to do this, please do compare it with the correlations that may or may not exist with the IQ, level of agreeableness or social skills of the clients who like me versus the clients who dislike me. I'm more curious if correlational patterns exist there versus which phases of the moon, we're in.  That may better help in making sense of this great unsolvable mystery. Of course, that is if we are to think no correlation exists between those who actually met me versus those who I didn't even end up meeting.

As stated elsewhere, I've been doing this for a very long time. Some may even say too long. I've learned to watch carefully to subtle words and tone. My ability to detect whether it is going to work with a client is usually pretty immediate. A sense of entitlement can't hide itself very long. My senses end up being vindicated quite regularly because the reaction of a client to my rejection of them usually reveals further what kind of person they are. I also sometimes play a game where I'll say to myself after the first or second message "I bet this client has had complaints on Mr.Number". And time and time again, I'll be right when I look up their number. Sure enough, a handful of providers have complained about their time being wasted or a persistent pernicious arrogance that occurs in the appointment. 

Over the decade, there has been a very noticeable decline in client etiquette. The regression of society and our culture has been widespread and encompassing. Client and provider etiquette in this industry has not been immune to this bigger societal shift. It is an end of an era. When I started in this work, people didn't waste time. Date, time, location, and preferences were communicated clearly, timely and effortlessly. That was the norm back then, today it is the exception. Then people didn't act like I was their waiter or cashier. There was less ghosting, less last-minute abrupt cancellations, less flakiness, less of an attitude of "I'm the one paying". There was a sense of class and courtesy with clientele in these arrangements. A drink at a nice hotel bar before going up. An appointment that was scheduled days in advance. A nice meal before or after. Less unpaid labor and time wasting before meeting. Prompt and to the point on arranging, and more class/personality when time was spent together. Things have changed. I've heard others on the client-side label this development "the grindrification of escorting" when complaining of providers. In my experience, the regression has been on both sides of the deal. It's becoming something different than what it used to be. It's something else. I'm just glad that I got to experience its previous form while it lasted. I have a deep lasting gratitude that I got to live its final days before it dived into a lot of the current crap and nonsense. I'm glad my early days did not start in today's era. The time of decency is gone. 

You sound like a great client!

I'm hoping this is a "text message came across as unintentionally rude" situation.  I am trying to view it from the client's perspective: he's big and wants to engage someone who does not advertise as a full or power bottom, so he wants to be sure the guy is capable.  That would make sense since it would be frustrating to have someone tap out before getting started.
Still, saying guys who can't handle it don't get paid is a red flag, I'd say it's reasonable to pass on him because you don't know if might pull some other excuse to avoid paying in full.

Best answer right here. 

A client insisting that the guy cums is like the team manager insisting that the striker in a football (soccer game) scores every game. Sure, he’s there to score goals but you can’t force him to.
In fact I find that the more insistent the client is that I cum the more difficult it becomes. Especially when they say they want you to cum inside there’s something about the pressure to perform which makes it more difficult to perform.
My advice to clients is, by all means ask, but the best way to get what you want is to avoid being prescriptive and demanding. Most providers will very quickly work out what you like and will deliver it. 

I understand the agreement,  but I'll never understand why clients "require" that a provider comes. There's too many factors beyond everyone's control.
I'd say offer a decent tip if they come. Nobody would agree to an hour of work where they might not get paid.

Those here who are talking about it the most seem to be the ones who have had multiple issues with the platform. 
Mom's logic: If you're not doing anything wrong, you probably don't have anything to worry about. 
Some clients here keep talking about it because this app is trying to level the playing field a bit... And that might have some of them a little worried. 

If you know you've done nothing wrong, then it's easy to laugh off a 'review' on Mr Number.
However, there's always those who make me think back to reading Hamlet:
The lady doth protest too much, methinks

The call to "expose" escorts sharing information is totally irresponsible and honestly pretty hypocritical given the forum that we're on. Please take a moment to consider what you're suggesting.
Mr Number is just one of several safety methods used by workers to protect themselves in the course of offering unique talents, experiences, pleasures and expertise. It's part of a centuries-old (at least) tradition of informal knowledge networks and bad date lists and meant to protect escorts. Things have changed in some places, and naturally, I acknowledge that clients take their share of risks as well when arranging to meet and meeting providers. But in most contexts, sex workers of any stripe take on much greater physical social, legal, personal and financial risks.
As someone above said, many (mannnyyyyyyyy) people messaging escorts never intend to meet or pay.  Every day, people text me out of the blue with expectations of rapid, extensive, unpaid sexting or phone sex, or worse. While most of the clients out there are genuinely good people trying to to do business, there are unfortunately a significant number of "clients" who are not... People who seek or choose to stalk, harass, rape, assault, doxx, scam, harm, and, in extreme cases, even kill sex workers. Not to mention, SW remains illegal in most places and police around the world still expend heinous quantities of cash in their efforts to entrap and charge sex workers.
Perhaps an example would help. I am based in Toronto. I was approached, by online message and text message, by Bruce MacArthur, whom most people will know was a sadistic serial killer preying on gay men in Toronto for at least a decade and who killed at least one sex worker and brutalized another with a metal pipe. If I had not cross checked his info with my peers at the time, I would not have known about the various red flags that had gone up in the community and would likely have met him. Similarly, somebody I once declined to meet after a cross-check later restrained and raped another provider who was not plugged into these info networks.
If someone can't see why tools like this are important, then I suggest they do some deep, deep thinking about their priorities and their capacity for empathy.
Of course, I'm not calling anyone on here a killer or a rapist. I love my clients and by and large I've found I can develop mutual trust with a guy independent of any lists or comment boards.  The information on sites CoM and MN is ultimately that — information. Escorts (and anyone with the app) can take that info and use it to make safer and better informed decisions — it's not as though you're cancelled forever because one person said you never booked, we all recognize that not every client is going to book. Tbh, I don't think I've ever seen a number that has negative comments from just one provider, and if I did, I would never write someone off based on one or two comments. What's most useful is seeing if there's a pattern of behaviour or red flags that we can take into consideration to protect ourselves.
Sorry for the novel, just was feeling aghast that anyone would think this is controversial or worth disparaging
 
 
 
 

Then why did you say
 
 
"pretty sure I know which providers have complained about me and I’ve had "
 
YOU said plural rather than singular correct?

Lol
 
why have MULTIPLE different escorts felt the need to warn their colleagues to watch out for you?  
 
you dont consider that they maybe have a point ? 

Mr. Number was not developed by an escort. Where did you get that idea? 😂😂😂

While I agree that it is petty and unfair for an escort to leave a negative review on Mr Number for you not deciding to book with him, and that whoever did this is an asshat, the vast majority of the reviews on Mr Number are about people who flake, who don't show up to appointments, who don't pay or don't pay in full, who do crazy shit. 
And there are a LOT of them. Believe me. I would say 90% of inquiries escorts receive are total bullshit from people who have zero intention of meeting up. People who collect a pic or two and then block. People who make plans and then cancel repeatedly, or who play games, or send people to the wrong address. And people do waste your time - asking lots of questions and sharing their specific turn ons and then, when it comes time to make an appointment, ghosting altogether.
I think it's 100% reasonable for escorts to have a means to warn each other and protect each other. I'm aware from reading this forum of the many horror stories people have of escorts being abusive, stealing, etc. But you have to understand that many escorts experience crazy shit from clients and would-be clients as well - theft, mind games, stalking.
Y'all have this forum to look out for each other. Escorts get to have one too. It sucks that people may abuse that service to tarnish a decent client's reputation, but the same could and probably does happen here.