peterhung85

When initially being texted by a client, how well do you react to first being asked about your rates? Or to ask how close an escort currently is?

 

Since RM removed their rates, I do need to ask the rate (as much as I'd like not having to).

 

Also, because of my position near Chicago, I do see the need to ask if clients are okay to travel a little (30 minute Uber ride).

 

However, several times, I've had escorts immediately and categorically decline me if I asked them one of these too early.

 

What are working providers looking for? Cutting to the chase? Or moving slowly?

It is a very customer unfriendly environment out there in terms of websites not showing any rates anymore, so obviously if I was a client looking to obtain services of other gentlemen, my first question would be about rates. It is absolutely reasonable to ask immediately and I always send my website URL where I list everything related to that.

The only time I would decline to see a client is if the client asks me how much I charge to perform certain sexual services. Since that's illegal, that's where the emailing ends, otherwise I always provide the infomation that is necessary for the potential client to determine whether he is interested in retaining my services or not.

I was hoping that Peterhung would get to visit Palm Springs for the weekend sometime. It looks like he will be engaged for this years festivities. Something tells me that if he happens to come out sometime there would be plenty of mischief to get into. At any rate, reading his site is great and very instructive. Besides informative you get a sense of what a nice guy he is and see that he is very reasonable for his services.

Thanks so much for your sweet words and compliments, truly appreciated!!! I am sure that the next time we meet, we can get into some mischief ourselves :-)

Recently, I had the opportunity to see @peterhung85 again! Wooof, what an experience with him! He looks more handsome and hot as years are passing. For him time has stopped!!! Nonetheless, my experience with him is unparalleled and I can say that the excitement in him is same to highest level as it was years back. I have heard from this forum that how for many of the members the experience has degraded with other men. But my experience with Peter is that he has the same awesome energy, excitement, cheerfulness, mental faculty every time that he had then! He makes you feel real good and excited as you meet him.

Thank you my dear. I am fortunate to say that I age like a fine wine. I even risk that I wasn't all that good-looking as a boy, but as I aged I turned into a charming man :-) and while I also put a lot of work into it, I am even more grateful for the genes that I have got! :-)

xoxo

Thank you for your sweet message my dear!!! :-*

Sorry to hear! However, his is the outcome when people think from waist down rather than shoulder up! Well “dopamine” is indeed very strong chemical that brain secretes and it hijacks rationale thinking. I would say only will power is big thing to overcome the drooling over eye candies! I am not saying that not to spend money on someone whom you like but do it not at first time. First build mutual trust! Understand integrity of a person and then take the move. I am glad that I made conscious choice to meet @peterhung85 who is indeed a person of integrity. It is exactly the reason why many respect him and like to meet him.

@BDSfan4Life : First of all, I am genuinely sorry that this happened to you.

This story brings up a few things in me:

1. Makes me want to work out even harder so one day a guy like you will fall for me too (sadly, I have always thought long-term and never scammed anyone in my life /well, exact opposite, I can count on my one hand how many times people tried to take advantage of me/, and this guy with all his scams probably makes as much as I do, which is just crazy to me).

2. Reinforces the fact that with amazing looks, you can still get away with murder because nice guys like you allow it (unfortunately).

3. Makes me wonder if you ever read anyone's reviews before hiring a companion....?!

Since he did all these things, wouldn't you want to share it in a form of a review so that others don't make the same mistake?! Because I bet you that you weren't the first he did this to.... but if you could stop him from doing this to others, it would do everyone a great favor (providers and clients as well)!

Thank you!

As for me, 2019 was absolutely amazing and exceeded my wildest expectations. My income from 2018 was up by 14.8% and I ended up breaking record in 2019 as the year where I outperformed my best-ever year by 10.02%. Digital cheers for an even more amazing 2020!!! :-)

Dear

@sexymonk

@jgoo

@Poincare

@TruHart1

@mike carey

....I would like to THANK YOU ALL for these wonderful remarks about me. You gentlemen are the reason why this "job" does NOT feel like a job! I truly appreciate your sweet compliments and hope to get to do a repeat with each and every one of you soon!

HUGS!!!

Hello Everybody,

I don't think that as a provider I should rate what it was back then as I have only been "in circulation" for 11 years (no clue what it was 15 years ago), but allow me to share you my take on this as a provider NOW vs. 11 years ago. Also, I can only talk about the market here in Las Vegas, as this is the market I am familiar with.

When I moved to Vegas 11 years ago, the first thing that I did was to look around in the market. I was just starting out, was not established and had no unique style, I was just a young guy, trying to make a few bucks here and there. The first thing I did was to open some of the listing sites and looked at all the ads. I quickly realized that there were a handful of providers that were so highly reputable that I - as a newbie - was even hesitant about reaching out to them. I eventually emailed them because of a few reasons:

1. Introducing myself.

2. Asking them if they would consider working with me in duos (should we get such request)

3. By bringing clients as part of a duo show, they would bring theirs too and would get exposed to theirs and as such, getting potentially more business further down the road

4. Observing them, learning about them and analyzing them of what made them so darn successful in this line of work.

5. Eventually, working with them and seeing it "up close" of how they made magic happen :-)

I will never forget this; I reached out to 4 providers (figured MAYBE ONE will say, OK buddy, fine, let's try this). These gentlemen made the Vegas hiring scene classy for years and some even a decade at that time and when a client was in town - depending on his preferences - the chances of one out of 4 them being hired was extremely high. To name these men I consider as legends:

- Aaron Mark

- Paul Pratt

- Mario Roma

- @Ace (Rockstar Fantasy)

Four vastly different men, completely different body types, styles and ages. All 4 of them - without hesitation - happily agreed to work with me (while I was just a nobody) and we ended up sharing a tremendous amount of clients together. Of course, I realized that I will have to be unique and copying is not the way to go, people are going to appreciate you for who you are and the best is to stay as close to being true to yourself as possible. Yet, I was able to learn about how to approach clients, how to be professional, how to be a gentleman and of course turn nasty (the good type) whenever it is requested.

Anyway, this topic is not about how I got started and built myself as a provider so let me steer back to the original topic:

What these four men had in common - besides their tremendous success as providers, the stellar reputation they have already built for themselves and the extensive clientele they have amassed was CLASS (in all caps)!

I have recently looked at providers here in Vegas and just can't find those types anymore. Maybe I am not looking close enough, maybe I don't know everyone anymore in this city, but these men were all class acts and legends in their own ways. I know that this isn't just my opinion; their track records and long-standing reputation proves it. They took pride in their work and exuded professionalism throughout their entire interactions with clients. They were highly reliable, always delivered and had zero attitude.

Furthermore, when I started out here, there were 49 (!) providers advertising on the main website. Today? I just looked: 231 (!!!).

The market got extremely diluted here, Las Vegas also - being such transient city - most guys are in it to make a quick buck, support one (or more) addiction(s)... exceptions always apply of course. They know exactly that clients are most likely not going to be long-term simply because people in this city come and go. I am the type that really does his best even if I know for sure that I will never see that person again (just like everyone, you can do your job in 2 ways, well and badly... at the end of the day, it will take about the same effort... so why not do your best, right?!). This approach is also missing from your typical Vegas providers here. I make calls at random times as some of my clients who hire me for an extended time like to include a third for an hour or so and whenever I start dialing I am always in shock. I have heard all kinds of responses and whenever I think I have heard it all, someone comes along and shocks me even more. With many providers I have to almost beg to have them come out while we are 20 minutes away, many of their rates are even higher than mine with virtually nothing to back that up with (muscular body, gorgeous smile, upscale pictures or a reputation earned throughout the years) and others simply not show up. I don't think that the latter one occurred as often back than as it does nowadays, but you may know this better than I do.

Based on these, I definitely agree with almost everyone here who says that it used to be so much better back then. Unfortunately most of these "legends" have retired. Again, this was a very location-specific review of the past vs. now but I would not be surprised if this was the case nationwide. My question would rather be this:

What do you gentlemen think, why has the behavior shifted this way and why is there less professionalism in our industry today vs. 15 years ago? I am genuinely curious....

I haven’t done this before, but I am interested in flying a provider from LA to DC for an overnight fun. Not sure how much is considered a reasonable price. What’s your quote?

Did your guy respond?

Recently I engaged the services of a well-reviewed escort for (what I anticipated would be) an hour of intimacy. He arrived in a fluster, so--to calm his nerves--we started off by talking, sitting side by side, as a host might entertain a party guest. We talked... and talked... and talked. I began to wonder when the main event might occur. Two hours passed--pleasantly enough--until he made "we should wrap this up" noises. When I asked what happened to the intimacy, he said he had just given me the Boyfriend Experience, and had stayed longer than his (not insignificant) fee warranted. I let him go, but then I realized that he had NOT given me the BFE, but rather the Platonic Friend Experience, since I could have spent exactly the same amount of time chatting with an everyday acquaintance for nothing! Having gone years at a stretch without physical contact, I don't want pleasantries over tea, I want barriers-down commingling, however brief. In an attempt to justify his evasion, he added: "Sometimes women hire me just to talk. It's non-threatening." Quite the cunning maneuver to avoid sex yet still collect his paper salad. My post-non-coital emotions ranged from anger to humiliation and finally to resignation.

WOW... that is insanity! I am really truly sorry that you had to deal with this guy who gives all of us a bad reputation. Especially since you have indicated that this was a well-reviewed companion, I highly suggest that you write a review of him. Many people will be very grateful to you that you did. This will stop others spending their hard-earned money on someone who clearly doesn't deserve it and will help others avoid that really negative feeling that has left inside of you when he left.

I am in a very particular (lucky) situation and I understand that your mileage may vary. I started where I started... from nothing! I wasn't always good (especially back in the day) but many times (according to my clients who were friendly enough to provide their honest feedback about my service) I made up for it with my friendly approach and "can-do" attitude. I am EXTREMELY FORTUNATE that I am mostly booked with my regulars for very extended periods of time. Over the past 10 years, I have managed to build up an extremely loyal clientele who keep me extremely preoccupied.

The way I look at it is this:

It is only normal (to me, again others may think differently and that is perfectly fine too) that I provide those people the same old rates and allow them to enjoy their grandfathered rates. This is not something that someone expects from me, it is a courtesy I extend to people and it is also explicitly stated on my website.

Back then nobody knew me and we all started out that way. It is my pleasure for extending this courtesy to those who have been with me for years (or even a decade now). It is one way of me saying: THANK YOU!

Since I only have a handful of availability for new clients, it is normal to me to charge a SLIGHTLY higher rate as I have built up my reputation for the past 10 years and I justify my new rates that way. If I don't gain any new business, I won't be suffering but if I do, it is a great gain! Still, every time a client of mine asks me to find a third guy and I look around in the market, I find guys who charge higher (or sometimes substantially higher) rates than me (with really nothing tangible to back up their rates whether it is looks, sophistication, marketing or reputation) and that makes me realize that where I am is probably still consumer-friendly.

At the end of the day, treating people with grandfathered rates who have been with me for some time is natural to me. They have been generous enough with me to give their business to me and it is only normal to me to show them that their business also means a great deal. It goes beyond that extra $25 or $50 that I could make extra per hour.

As sad as it is, in retrospect it's probably best I never met @peterhung85. Not that I don't think he's an incredible guy, I do. And I've always been sorry I was never able to meet him. But when he went from versatile to top, I asked him about it. He said he had never really enjoyed bottoming. So I'm sure he wouldn't have let me know that if we had gotten together. But knowing that now, I'm glad I didn't make him bottom for me. However while I can't imagine it happening, I'd love to meet him for a drink some time.

 

Gman

Awwwww.... you are so sweet @Gar1eth. That's quite true.... I DID however like it once ... quite honestly one of the (if not the biggest) orgasms I have ever had till now.... I have done it multiple other times with that gentleman and the rest of the times it wasn't even "good". I am unsure what went so amazingly well that one time but the rest of the 100 other times I did bottom, it was rather a painful experience. Life is too short not to enjoy things, which is why I decided to switch from versatile to top. The other reason is that I am sure most people can tell when you enjoy what you do and I want people who decide to spend time with me to feel that whatever we do, I am genuinely into it!

You mean I missed the initial limited offer? I don’t think so! I get unlimited experience from you on all sphere!

Sorry, definitely missed the $300/day special!

Every other person on rm is kinda below @peterhung85. He is the best! That is why he is there 12+ years and will be there for decades to come! Where other men boundary ends, Peters boundary starts!!!

Just 10 ... I am not THAT old

I’m always open to these types of discussions, the worst case scenario is a bitchy response, but they may also be thankful and want to find a way to show it.

 

When I was new, I charged a lot more and had no trouble finding it in certain cities, but ultimately I adapted to more middle of the pack rates. They, too, will likely adjust if they are finding little business.

Thank you for sharing your story. It is so funny how we are all so different and coming from different backgrounds.

I remember when I first started in this trade, I had a rather lower hourly rate (not Craigslist low but RB low) but I was running specials back then. I wanted to see the USA & the world. I offered to clients that if they take me to a US state or a country I have not been before, I charge $300/day. Before I get new inquiries, please note that that limited time offer has expired (10 years ago ).

To address @keroscenefire I would say "Go for it"... just be as "non-intrusive" as you possibly can. Approach it from the angle that you are trying to help (in case they need it) and not from an angle that "I know it better than you, so let me tell you that..... ". I know you would do it as scenario #1, just re-affirming.

So....I had the pleasure of meeting @peterhung85 this past Saturday. I’d like to just say AMAZING!!! All the honorable mentions of Peter in these threads rings true. He was such a genuine man from the start to the end. I already can’t wait to see him again. Enough with the ranting since I’m aware that everyone who’s had the pleasure of meeting with Peter already knows his awesomeness.

Awwwwe..... Thanks so much! It was AWESOME meeting you as well! We will make it even more fun next time

Yes, I will personally say that I had the good fortune where this fine man took me to dinner! Yes it happens when you develop the deep connection and have evolved to the phase of personal camaraderie.

You are sweet! It was my pleasure. Maybe next time if I make enough, we can upgrade our experience from McDonald's to Burger King? (not promising anything in advance, will have to see my cash-flow first)

I'll be in Vegas next week and he caught my eye so I messaged him. He responded right away but his fees are crazy. $500 for him to top and $1,000 for him to bottom. If you just want to blow him it's $200.

That's quite a list of services with their applicable pricing. I wonder if there are any supplemental charges like when you want caviar on top of your existing Prix-fixe menu?!

Sounds like he has extrapolated the methods from the fine dining restaurants It is amusing nevertheless, thanks for sharing!

Yes, absolutely. I have done that many times for many of my clients with whom I have a great relationship otherwise. It can be "just because it is Tuesday" or because some of them had birthdays to celebrate. That's the minimum and I am happy to do that with the ones I like AND are frequent regulars of mine.

You will not be disappointed with the wonderful @peterhung85! He is one of the best escorts around and I have certainly been grateful every time I was lucky enough to be with him!

 

TruHart1

Thank you Sweet"TruHart" .... I appreciate your kind words. I will definitely try to live up @aeikaryoko 's expectations!!! :-)

XOXO & Happy Thanksgiving to you all!

The only thing I don't get is what exactly is non-negotiable?! Anyone?

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Strong, open-minded smart guy, who knows how to make anyone feel good and comfortable. Easy to talk to and knows how to get the job done. Please message me with full intent of what you want, and lets go from there.

Ultimately the perfect boyfriend on the go or a fantasy full-filler.

Non-negotiable

I am on the list for a few people's will but:

- None of them are anywhere near a 6 digit number

- They are all personal friends of mine. Considering the amount involved vs. the camaraderie & friendship we have developed over the years, I would much rather have them alive than dead. Good friends are worth more than tens of thousands of dollars. Money can always be made but good friends you can always count on can't be substituted with $$$.

That's my take on this...

Everybody has his own level of comfort when it comes to privacy. Both parties should be respectful to that, so the answer highly depends on what you & your choice of companion decide to share.

I just love that you put so much thought and details into your ad @peterhung85.

That’s a winner in my books. I am due to a visit in Vegas and would love to get in touch with you even if it’s just a massage.

I apologize @aeikaryoko I just saw your message here (don't always visit the forum often). Your compliment is much appreciated and hope to get to make your acquaintance when you come. Message me and we can definitely set something up!!!

xoxo

That's a great point you made there and very true! I remember at Encore, you can get a professional hair cut for $65 and that includes a day spa access.