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What's a professional chair? I don't think I've ever heard of that.

It varies, but your situation sounds very promising. I had one from an experienced team of hot guys (based in New Mexico, I think) that was excellent. I had one from a regular masseur who brought a fuck buddy, and they spent more time playing with each other than they did with me. But watching them fuck was hot, hot, hot -- though not what I paid for. I had one from a regular who brought an inexperienced young guy who was a VERY recent immigrant who couldn't speak English, but the older guy was telling him in Chinese what to do, and it was an excellent experience. I had another with the older Chinese guy who brought a hot young Vietnamese friend, who became a regular and a friend. (The Chinese guy lagter moved to D.C.) I had another with X, a regular and with the Vietnamese guy, and my regular (who is still a regular masseur) didn't think the Vietnamese guy was good enough to be his partner, but I had a great time! So, your arrangement with two guys who you know, and who are open to the idea sounds most promising! Let us know how it works out! BTW, I think you should probably pay each one his rate, even if the two rates are different. When my Chinese regular brought the young immigrant, I paid one fee to the older masseur, and let him dictate the split. When the same Chinese masseur brought the young Vietnamese masseur, I had the same arrangement. When my Vietnamese guy came with X, I paid each a different fee that was arranged in advance, since one was more experienced than the other, and the Vietnamese guy was eager to learn how a four-handed works - it was his first time, and he did just fine.

Didn't keep me up. WOKE ME UP!

The ad says "near 8th ave and 52nd st." Is this the same guy? He's smiling and doesn't show the picture with a chain that I referred to in my post of Sept 2nd.

Can you describe Ben? Big guy? Or slim and trim? Can you estimate height and weight? Talkative or quiet?

Bosgam, I haven't been to Shangrila in a few months, but if Jerry still works there (Friday and Saturday, I think), I recommend him highly. He's Chinese, excellent English, slight build, but gives a great massage AND a pampering table shower.

Alex works at Utopia, or at least he used to several months ago. He's Venezuelan. He's hot, too!

His ad looks interesting, especially now that he's moved to New York. Anyone have any experience with him? Bay Area, perhaps? https://rentmasseur.com/JR_Cali

I had asked about him a few weeks ago, but no one had been with him. Anyone?? He looks like a keeper. https://rentmasseur.com/pizh

Tickets went on sale this morning for "The Music Man," which opens one year from now. I looked for a ticket for the matinee (no evening performance) for Dec. 24, 2020. A ticket in row M center orchestra costs $350 + 15 service charge. A ticket in the last row can be had for more than $200. ARE THEY FUCKING KIDDING ME? Plenty of people have bought these seats, and also shelled out for the "premium" seats for $450. I hope they like the show, and I know that I will not be missed.

When I seek info of a graphic nature, I don't ask here, but send a PM. I've also received PMs asking about masseurs I've mentioned here in The Spa. I wouldn't be concerned if I were you; in fact, I think the sender is being cautious and considerate. I don't mind telling someone in a PM that "X is eager to fuck me at XX spa," but I wouldn't tell everyone who's reading this. Nor would I want the management of the spa to read it, either.

Jerry, who's at Utopia two days a week (dates change, so I'm not sure when), gives a table shower that is the most pampering of anyone's. I know exactly what you mean by "makes me feel like a king!"

Definitely worth firing up the private jet (as Oaktown would say)! I wish he'd come to New York for a visit.

I got a massage from Pan years ago, when he was visiting NY, and I still remember that fantastic body. I bet he's still in great shape!

I also recommend Harrison. Again, just tell him what you want, and what you don't want. https://www.masseurfinder.com/massage-therapists/821/

Peter will give you what you want. He is an LMT. He usually provides extras, but just tell him you want 60 minutes of his therapeutic massage, with no extras. He will be glad to comply with your request. https://www.masseurfinder.com/massage-therapists/2262/

I think that Pizh is the most appealing, but no one seems to have any experience with him. ANYONE?? https://rentmasseur.com/pizh

No haircut, no smile, but there's a certain sexy mystery about him, and a hard body. I also like the picture with the chain. Worth the plunge?

Thanks. I thought it might be a neighborhood in Los Angeles that I hadn't heard of before.

I got a massage from him several years ago, on a recommendation from a friend. He's a very nice guy (skinny, too, but not anorexic!), and it was a good experience, but not enough chemistry between us for me to repeat. YMMV. When I posted the first message in June, I didn't realize that this was the same guy, but my friend pointed out that he's the same Carl as I saw several years ago. I didn't know anything about his purported cross-dressing, and I wouldn't have cared. So if you're interested, go for it. He's real, he's pretty good at it, he's sexy, and he's a nice person.

I always like EVdude's comment, but I'm baffled; what's TEHO?

For one thing, it can be cheaper, but not always, if you figure in a good tip. Also, you may really like a spa masseur, and that may the only way to see him. I have asked spa masseurs if I could see them privately, in my home. I've been seeing one, who can do things he can't do in the spa. Another kept saying that he would come to my apartment, and gave me his email address (which really was his email address), but he never was willing to commit to seeing me at home. I've continued to see him at the spa where he works. Last: I'm not a big fan of table showers, but if I were, I couldn't get one at home. I can't shower with my spa masseur after the massage in the spa, but we can shower together at my apartment, which we do.

I have never been to Pasha, but I have seen highly favorable comments again and again and again on this site. A friend from SF always gets a massage from Pasha when he's in NY. Sounds to me like you will be very pleased.

Getting back to Edge All Year Long, who seems to be looking for love in the wrong places: Redwine's reply is remarkably restrained (and correct) , and Typical's blunt warning is more to the point. I agree with both. You are looking for trouble, and (unfortunately for you) you will find it soon, and as Allen Funt used to say on Candid Camera, when you least expect it. Stick to the old-fashioned way.

There's another current thread about him. One brave soul "took the plunge," yesterday, (his words), and had an excellent experience. Go figure!!