steve10025

I’m starting this thread because I’m tired of seeing toxic clients post baseless slander and fake reviews just because they didn’t get their way with a provider.
A few months ago someone posted this about me (Jacob_Session):
“Big time crystal meth addict and power bottom”
That comment is completely false. I’m not a meth addict — not even close. And throwing around “power bottom” like it’s some kind of insult just shows how petty and insecure some people are. Versatile providers exist who can top or bottom depending on chemistry and mood. Shaming someone for it says way more about the poster than it does about me.
What makes it worse is that right in the same thread, another member (Travpilo) left a very positive and detailed review:
“My experience was great. He catered to my desire to make out as a lead in… and his oral and bottoming skills were both outstanding. Some great conversation when we were done was a great finish. Didn’t notice any drug issues.”
One person lies to smear me, another has a genuinely good experience and says so. Yet the nasty comment stays up while the truth gets buried under “bump” posts asking for more reviews.
For the record: I have a Bachelor’s of Science in Atmospheric Science with double minors in Broadcast Meteorology and Mathematics. I’m currently returning to school for my Master’s in Disaster Resiliency and Leadership. I work hard and take pride in being a good, reliable guy in this business. I shouldn’t have to defend basic facts about myself against random anonymous attacks from people who know nothing about my life.
I’ve already reached out to the moderators asking them to remove that defamatory post. It crosses the line from opinion into clear slander, and it needs to come down.
Providers — have you dealt with toxic clients leaving fake reviews or baseless accusations when things didn’t go their way?
Clients — what do you think is fair here? How do we keep the review system honest without letting bitter people tarnish reputations?
I’m not looking for drama. I just want this community to stop tolerating this kind of garbage. We’re all tired of it.
Thanks for reading. Looking forward to hearing from you.

Thanks for reaffirming a very important point - your humanity.  Anyone can have a bad experience, but short of having a provider become violent or steal from you, it's not cool to trash someone with smears or insults. One of the things I (and many others) carry into any meeting with a provider is respect for the person who is offering himself quite literally for my enjoyment. 
I must say your education background is very impressive AND cool. 👍🏻

Nope. Totally disagree. Kids today are just as much exposed to the real world as they were in the early 1970s. That was a half-century ago! The real world has changed radically since then, not least in the ongoing, disruptive transformations from an analog to a digital society, plus the epic transfer of trillions of dollars in assets from the poor and middle classes to the wealthy. These two alone have created a seemingly unbridgeable gap that dramatically alters expectations. Kids didn’t do that - we did. So of course the resulting differences between 19 year olds then and now are vast. It is a common if huge mistake for an older generation to lament “Kids today!! Why, back in my day, we…”. To reference a single example that was mentioned and that relates directly to today’s horrific news: Kids didn’t abolish the early ‘70s draft, creating a huge, over-funded private army that now fights endless wars that drain the treasury and make profiteering corporations richer, all while spilling blood. We did that. Instead of complaining about what 19 year olds do, it is way more productive to complain about - and reform - what adults are doing. Indicting an entire generation on the basis of a terrible experience with one loser just perpetuates the problems.
Sorry, but the kids are all right. End of rant. 

Yep. Dodged a bullet. You live and learn with this hobby. We've all been there, blah, blah, blah. Kinda hurts, gives you a good case of the blue balls, frustrating, disappointing, etc. In summary, that kid is a tool. Glad he didn't get any more of your money. Just think how good you'll feel when you hit the jackpot with a well reviewed sexy adult. Knock it out of the park next time, okay?

Note - if you use Zelle, the payee sees your real name. Use Venmo.or CashApp where you can use a handle . Gen Z is pretty internet and AI savvy . With a name they can easily access your life history with addresses and all in a minute. Watch out.

Thanks for the feedback! My brain agrees with you but my sex-love-fantasy-part is so disappointed lol ... I will get over it for sure.

So I had really been looking forward to meeting with Jesusguevara for quite some time. We had a quick facetime chat and he seemed very nice and real, plus he is a perfect match for my fantasies.  We made a date to meet tonight - I said I'd send an uber at 7:30. When I texted him, he asked if I could zelle him $35 to pay his friend who is an uber driver whom he said he wanted to help out. I was reluctant but agreed. He gave me the friend's name and cell #, (after raising the price to $50), and it came up as unregistered on Zelle. When I told him that, he then sent me another phone number with another name. At this point I said I'm sorry this doesn't work for me - let me just send you an uber. He wote, "you're a complete waste of time", then said, ok send me an uber in a few minutes. I wrote him, how can I invite you to my house, you just insulted me. He said, ok, I don't want to meet either now. I guess I did the right thing but boy am I disappointed ... he seemed so nice when we first met ... any feedback? Curious what others think.
https://rentmen.eu/Jesusguevara

So I had really been looking forward to meeting with Jesusguevara for quite some time. We had a quick facetime chat and he seemed very nice and real, plus he is a perfect match for my fantasies.  We made a date to meet tonight - I said I'd send an uber at 7:30. When I texted him, he asked if I could zelle him $35 to pay his friend who is an uber driver whom he said he wanted to help out. I was reluctant but agreed. He gave me the friend's name and cell #, (after raising the price to $50), and it came up as unregistered on Zelle. When I told him that, he then sent me another phone number with another name. At this point I said I'm sorry this doesn't work for me - let me just send you an uber. He wote, "you're a complete waste of time", then said, ok send me an uber in a few minutes. I wrote him, how can I invite you to my house, you just insulted me. He said, ok, I don't want to meet either now. I guess I did the right thing but boy am I disappointed ... he seemed so nice when we first met ... any feedback? Curious what others think.
https://rentmen.eu/Jesusguevara

Sounds like you got a chorus of great advice and support. I know you dodged a bullet.
When I was in my late 20's, I had this thing for skinny, younger, masculine twinks, barely out of high school, but definitely over 18. I remember the feeling in the groin when someone fit the ideal, and the mind unveiled a fantasy like no other. Back in the day, a popular place to find someone was in and around seedy 42nd street. Boy do I have stories.
When I think of those stories today, I question my sanity. I could have easily been killed, or at least stabbed, many times. The mind at 19 is just way too unstable, especially for sex work. Today's 19 seems nothing like 19 of the 70's. Today's young bitches don't even pretend to know how to act. There may be a few good apples out there, but you shouldn't kid yourself. Playing with fire will more than likely get you burned.

I also like the younger guys and, while many of them are immature, scammers come in every age.  I am guessing that he wanted the cash for the Uber because he wasn't going to take an Uber but would travel to you another way (e.g., by public transportation or a cheaper car service).  Sending the money to a 'friend' could be because he doesn't have a bank account, but it complicates the negotiation and raises suspicions, which you don't want to do when making a sale.  You were kind to go along with it as far as you did, but if his request was really about transportation, he'd have just taken your offer to get him an Uber.  It was him trying to grab for just a little more money that made it all go south.  
Years ago, I hired a younger guy in LA for a one-hour session at my hotel (I was traveling for work), and we had so much fun I extended it for a second hour and then a third.  I paid him three times his one-hour rate (I didn't ask for a multiple-hour discount) plus a very good tip and I told him that I was in town for the rest of the week and would love to see him again the next night.  Shortly after he left, I got a call from the hotel garage saying that someone was trying to charge a parking fee to my room.  Hotel garages are expensive, but the charge was maybe 3% of what I'd paid him or 10% of his tip.  I rejected the charge and didn't contact him again.  As much as I wanted to see him and as great as our time together was, his grabbing for a little more pissed me off so much the connection I felt with him was ruined.  
 

You've saved a lot of other Brothers here on CoM  a lotta disappointment.

So I had really been looking forward to meeting with Jesusguevara for quite some time. We had a quick facetime chat and he seemed very nice and real, plus he is a perfect match for my fantasies.  We made a date to meet tonight - I said I'd send an uber at 7:30. When I texted him, he asked if I could zelle him $35 to pay his friend who is an uber driver whom he said he wanted to help out. I was reluctant but agreed. He gave me the friend's name and cell #, (after raising the price to $50), and it came up as unregistered on Zelle. When I told him that, he then sent me another phone number with another name. At this point I said I'm sorry this doesn't work for me - let me just send you an uber. He wote, "you're a complete waste of time", then said, ok send me an uber in a few minutes. I wrote him, how can I invite you to my house, you just insulted me. He said, ok, I don't want to meet either now. I guess I did the right thing but boy am I disappointed ... he seemed so nice when we first met ... any feedback? Curious what others think.
https://rentmen.eu/Jesusguevara

So I had really been looking forward to meeting with Jesusguevara for quite some time. We had a quick facetime chat and he seemed very nice and real, plus he is a perfect match for my fantasies.  We made a date to meet tonight - I said I'd send an uber at 7:30. When I texted him, he asked if I could zelle him $35 to pay his friend who is an uber driver whom he said he wanted to help out. I was reluctant but agreed. He gave me the friend's name and cell #, (after raising the price to $50), and it came up as unregistered on Zelle. When I told him that, he then sent me another phone number with another name. At this point I said I'm sorry this doesn't work for me - let me just send you an uber. He wote, "you're a complete waste of time", then said, ok send me an uber in a few minutes. I wrote him, how can I invite you to my house, you just insulted me. He said, ok, I don't want to meet either now. I guess I did the right thing but boy am I disappointed ... he seemed so nice when we first met ... any feedback? Curious what others think.
https://rentmen.eu/Jesusguevara

So I had really been looking forward to meeting with Jesusguevara for quite some time. We had a quick facetime chat and he seemed very nice and real, plus he is a perfect match for my fantasies.  We made a date to meet tonight - I said I'd send an uber at 7:30. When I texted him, he asked if I could zelle him $35 to pay his friend who is an uber driver whom he said he wanted to help out. I was reluctant but agreed. He gave me the friend's name and cell #, (after raising the price to $50), and it came up as unregistered on Zelle. When I told him that, he then sent me another phone number with another name. At this point I said I'm sorry this doesn't work for me - let me just send you an uber. He wote, "you're a complete waste of time", then said, ok send me an uber in a few minutes. I wrote him, how can I invite you to my house, you just insulted me. He said, ok, I don't want to meet either now. I guess I did the right thing but boy am I disappointed ... he seemed so nice when we first met ... any feedback? Curious what others think.
https://rentmen.eu/Jesusguevara

So I had really been looking forward to meeting with Jesusguevara for quite some time. We had a quick facetime chat and he seemed very nice and real, plus he is a perfect match for my fantasies.  We made a date to meet tonight - I said I'd send an uber at 7:30. When I texted him, he asked if I could zelle him $35 to pay his friend who is an uber driver whom he said he wanted to help out. I was reluctant but agreed. He gave me the friend's name and cell #, (after raising the price to $50), and it came up as unregistered on Zelle. When I told him that, he then sent me another phone number with another name. At this point I said I'm sorry this doesn't work for me - let me just send you an uber. He wote, "you're a complete waste of time", then said, ok send me an uber in a few minutes. I wrote him, how can I invite you to my house, you just insulted me. He said, ok, I don't want to meet either now. I guess I did the right thing but boy am I disappointed ... he seemed so nice when we first met ... any feedback? Curious what others think.
https://rentmen.eu/Jesusguevara

So I had really been looking forward to meeting with Jesusguevara for quite some time. We had a quick facetime chat and he seemed very nice and real, plus he is a perfect match for my fantasies.  We made a date to meet tonight - I said I'd send an uber at 7:30. When I texted him, he asked if I could zelle him $35 to pay his friend who is an uber driver whom he said he wanted to help out. I was reluctant but agreed. He gave me the friend's name and cell #, (after raising the price to $50), and it came up as unregistered on Zelle. When I told him that, he then sent me another phone number with another name. At this point I said I'm sorry this doesn't work for me - let me just send you an uber. He wote, "you're a complete waste of time", then said, ok send me an uber in a few minutes. I wrote him, how can I invite you to my house, you just insulted me. He said, ok, I don't want to meet either now. I guess I did the right thing but boy am I disappointed ... he seemed so nice when we first met ... any feedback? Curious what others think.
https://rentmen.eu/Jesusguevara

I hear you. But I am really into twinks, and I have been lucky enough to find a few who are respectful and not flaky ... but one does have to be careful, that's why I back away from anything suspect ...

I hear you. But I am really into twinks, and I have been lucky enough to find a few who are respectful and not flaky ... but one does have to be careful, that's why I back away from anything suspect ...

I hear you. But I am really into twinks, and I have been lucky enough to find a few who are respectful and not flaky ... but one does have to be careful, that's why I back away from anything suspect ...

So I had really been looking forward to meeting with Jesusguevara for quite some time. We had a quick facetime chat and he seemed very nice and real, plus he is a perfect match for my fantasies.  We made a date to meet tonight - I said I'd send an uber at 7:30. When I texted him, he asked if I could zelle him $35 to pay his friend who is an uber driver whom he said he wanted to help out. I was reluctant but agreed. He gave me the friend's name and cell #, (after raising the price to $50), and it came up as unregistered on Zelle. When I told him that, he then sent me another phone number with another name. At this point I said I'm sorry this doesn't work for me - let me just send you an uber. He wote, "you're a complete waste of time", then said, ok send me an uber in a few minutes. I wrote him, how can I invite you to my house, you just insulted me. He said, ok, I don't want to meet either now. I guess I did the right thing but boy am I disappointed ... he seemed so nice when we first met ... any feedback? Curious what others think.
https://rentmen.eu/Jesusguevara

So I had really been looking forward to meeting with Jesusguevara for quite some time. We had a quick facetime chat and he seemed very nice and real, plus he is a perfect match for my fantasies.  We made a date to meet tonight - I said I'd send an uber at 7:30. When I texted him, he asked if I could zelle him $35 to pay his friend who is an uber driver whom he said he wanted to help out. I was reluctant but agreed. He gave me the friend's name and cell #, (after raising the price to $50), and it came up as unregistered on Zelle. When I told him that, he then sent me another phone number with another name. At this point I said I'm sorry this doesn't work for me - let me just send you an uber. He wote, "you're a complete waste of time", then said, ok send me an uber in a few minutes. I wrote him, how can I invite you to my house, you just insulted me. He said, ok, I don't want to meet either now. I guess I did the right thing but boy am I disappointed ... he seemed so nice when we first met ... any feedback? Curious what others think.
https://rentmen.eu/Jesusguevara

That sucks it didn't work out well with him. You did the right thing for sure.
I've experienced guys like him before both in hiring and just hooking up off Grindr/apps. Young, hot, likely very in demand and juggling tons of options. They want you to book and make it happen as quickly as possible and they don't like answering too many questions or getting into details. Anything more than the bare minimum to confirm and execute is uninteresting and a waste of time to them. If you ask too many questions or don't jump through their weird hoops they will bail and pick up the next available client/potential hookup (whom they're likely in various stages of booking others simultaneously to you and they just go see whichever one locks it in first and leave the others hanging because they have so many options it doesn't matter). Dudes like this are just incredibly flakey.
As far as the weird sending the small fee to their friend thing. I've also experienced that before. One guy i used to see regularly would book a motel for us and on our first couple meets he always had me Zelle the motel room deposit of $50-75 to a different person each time of the first like 3 or 4 times i met him, but I'd bring him cash for the full rate. After a while he had me send the motel booking deposits direct to him.
I felt just as suspicious about it at first but followed through anyway as you did. It ended up being fine, so i didn't question it after the first time. I never asked who those other people were, but if i had to assume i figure it was either someone he knew at the motel who'd hold a room for him (it's his go to spot for hosting clients who can't host him and for filming OnlyFans/Twitter content with collabs who come to him) or it was going to friends/family he was trying to spread the wealth to. Luckily this guy wasn't flakey and performs well in the session, but yeah i was super weirded out by the "send 50 to my friend first" thing too.

Supernice, sexy, friendly ... everything you could ask for.

Wow, lots of judgmental negativity on this one. Is this any way to treat a 21-year-old? When I think about how little I knew at 21, I become quickly humbled. I would not give him permission to disrespect me, but I think it would be fun to watch him pleasure himself. Getting a whiff of those pits and other things, maybe even a taste, sounds like a lot of fun to me, as long as he plays by agreed upon rules. His body looks seriously worked, hopefully steroid free, so there's plenty to enjoy here. I like his face. If I could afford him, I'd be curious enough to at least meet with him, just to see what he smelled like. Of course, now that I see he's a smoker, that would be a tough sell for me. Nothing turns me off more than the smells of a smoker.

I don’t haggle.  I simply say thanks I think I would’ve enjoyed meeting you, but unfortunately you’re over my budget.  I’d say 50% of the time I get a response where they offered to lower their rate..  you can never prejudge their willingness to drop their rate.  Maybe they just had a cancellation or been having a slow few days.  I have to say that whenever this does happen, I don’t feel like I’m being given incomplete service.