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I think the comment about loss of muscle during the Covid19 crisis is warranted. I recently met with an escort who had lost 30 pounds in the last 5 months since his gym was closed. For me he was just perfect as he still weighed 240 pounds and stood 6’6” and was still all muscle. Also his dick hadn’t shrunken at all.
He sounds delicious! Do you mind disclosing his name and/or provider ad here or by private message?
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It's unfortunate that the OP's thread has been occupied, colonized actually, since page 2 by a white guy who just had to make it all about him and his feels. I hope the OP got at least something useful out of it.
? at "occupied" and "colonized"
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We get it. You discriminate on the basis of race in the selection of your sexual partners. You also seem to really like doing that, since you've gleefully joked about basking in your privilege. Some of us think that racial discrimination is a generally bad thing that should never be done intentionally, and that if we find ourselves unconsciously practicing it, this should, at a minimum, be cause for introspection. You think that racial discrimination is perfectly fine, at least in the context of personal relationships (presumably sexual and romantic ones, although you've never explicitly stated such a limit). So, you let yourself off the hook for engaging in this practice because, per your reasoning, it's either not a big deal or it's not something that we can change. I'd argue that most reasonable, compassionate, and fair-minded people think that those last two assumptions are B.S. excuses, but whatever ...
All of the above was really collateral, though, because this thread was started by a client of color, who wondered if he should disclose his race upfront in order to soften the blow of rejection from escorts who incorporate racial discrimination into their business models. Since the longstanding mantra on this forum has been that any escort worth a damn is a professional, this thread was supposed to be about discrimination in the provision of sex worker services. You're the one who made it all about yourself in an attempt to justify the supposedly "pure logic" of why your sexual partners "have to be caucasians" and "cannot be blacks and Asians." As if that somehow excuses escorts who categorically refuse to provide services to entire groups of people. Based on how you've explained your prejudices here, I think that most reasonable readers of this thread would conclude that it's for the best that black men and Asian men don't have to worry about being the objects of your affection.
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Why do u want to hire guys who are racist? I ask this earnestly: Where is your dignity? Self respect? Why not hire guys who you know have no issues with your skin color or ethnic background?? Is being degraded, demeaned and disrespected part of the turn on? Perhaps it may behoove you and benefit you to do some self study or therapy to get to the bottom of this, which could serve you and all in all areas of your life including your sexual life.
With that being said, i do give a description of myself including that I am Black when Im hiring. I tend to hire Black guys exclusively and I haven’t had any issues...but if I were to ever come across a white boy or anyone who I was considering hiring, if there were any indication in his ad or through His communication that he were anti-black, id be turned off immediately! I cant imagine wanting to throw money at someone like that.
I totally agree with this too, from a practical standpoint. In both the regular dating and escorting contexts, the rejected person should never *want* to be with a guy who'd categorically reject all persons of his racial or ethnic background. We can all understand the hurt and insult, but if the rejected person still desires to be with such a guy, he really needs to work those issues out in counseling.
That being said, speaking solely with regards to escorting, when any other type of service is denied, our response isn't to tell the prospective employee or customer that they should have the dignity to not want to work at, or purchase there. We rightly shame and punish those discriminatory employers or businesses. You may not know this as a newer forum participant, but so many folks on this board routinely defend the discriminatory escorts, while in another breath saying that escorts are supposed to be professionals. Some of these folks have also been adamant that the discriminatory escorts shouldn't be viewed negatively for not listing their racial exclusions in their ads so that the clients could at least avoid the indignity of the personal rejection (either directly or via ghosting) once their race is revealed. For many here, it seems to be about denying the reality of racism and even protecting discriminatory escorts at all costs, clients be damned. Even actions from clients to protect themselves from this (by discussing providers with a history of racist or at least racially problematic statements and conduct) seems to be frowned upon. We've got a lot of work to do as a community, both online and in the real world.
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Rape and breeding at a time when marriage between whites and blacks wasn't legal has a lot to do with that high percentage of white in the Americas specially in USA and Brazil.
I think I understand what you're saying here, but this is not just a past phenomenon. Yes, the reason why tests show that for people of the African Diaspora in the "new world" whom Western culture has taught us to view as "black," on average, up to 1/4 of our DNA is white European; and this is largely due to the regular raping of black women during generations of slavery. Since the "1-drop" rule classified these women's resulting offspring as "black," and not white, segregation ensured that until relatively recent times, nearly all of those children would eventually marry and procreate only with those also classified as non-white. But long after slavery there have been (and likely continue to be) interracial romantic and sexual liaisons where at least one of those partners is undoubtedly racist. As an example, Strom Thurmond, the infamous 20th century segregationist senator from South Carolina, comes to mind (he had a biracial daughter from his youthful dalliance with a black woman, and he financially supported her, despite being an avowed segregationist). I've also heard from Asian female friends bemoan how common it is for white men (including their former romantic partners) to fetishize them. They certainly don't appreciate that level of benign or unconscious racism, even if, as I suspect, most if not all of those guys probably would never think of themselves as having racist tendencies. Like I said, racism is itself very complicated, and often irrational, as are the varying and unpredictable ways it which it can impact human behavior, including our feelings and desires.
I understand the temptation of so many to say that excluding racial groups in this context shouldn't be a problem because we like what we like, and we supposedly can't control that. This comes up each time these types of threads get resurrected on the forum. Notwithstanding the fallacy of the assumption that we're powerless to change what we think of as beautiful or desirable, there's a good reason why we shouldn't just throw our hands up and say that these attitudes are meaningless preferences undeserving of introspection. We've already seen at least two posters on this thread (including the OP) who've expressed the harm these prejudices can inflict on both client and professional alike. It is most assuredly not the same kind of rejection that we all must face at some time in the dating world based on our own individual traits or lack of connection with specific persons.
Since the gay community is largely differentiated from the straight community on the ground of sexual/romantic attraction, such arbitrary exclusions of entire racial groups from the realm of possibility seems, to me, to strike at the very heart of what should be the bonds of our community.
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Sorry, @Strafe13. There are plenty of people who have preferences that have nothing to do with racism or sexism. Where I work, we vote for our leaders/supervisors, and women and people of color have been voted as our bosses. That has nothing to do with who turns us on sexually. I have no idea why my Korean-American friend can't get turned on by Asian men. Maybe it's Hollywood's influence or Madison Avenue's influence. Maybe he was exposed to a lot of Asian men in his childhood and longs for something different. But he's most certainly not racist. Why have I no sexual interest in women? It's certainly not because of "cultural norms." There are probably some who get turned off by certain races due to racism, but you yourself admitted that many racists get sexually turned on by races they're prejudiced against. For the most part, it's really a separate issue.
No need to apologize, @Unicorn. We're having a civil, if not passionate discussion. It seems like you view racism as a personal or individual belief system, rather than as a multifaceted sociological phenomenon that includes, but isn't limited to, the former. Hence, your seeming inference that I was arguing that your Asian friend is an intentional bigot (which I wasn't saying). But acknowledging that we are inundated with our society's racist and sexist values doesn't mean that we are irredeemably bad, prejudiced people.
You seem to be very resistant to the notion that we are all afflicted with implicit and explicit biases to some degree because we necessarily incorporate societal values into our personalities. We live in a society whose foundations include patriarchy and white supremacy, so it's inevitable that we would be impacted to varying degrees by this. When we hear examples of people who find entire racial groups unattractive, the notion that one would automatically dismiss societal influences as separate and unrelated sounds ridiculous to me. I also don't understand why you'd think that just because self-avowed racists can sexually fetishize people of the racial groups they despise, that this somehow proves that racism is entirely separate from how our minds get programmed (consciously and unconsciously) to process and develop all kinds of beliefs and feelings, including sexual desire.
Both things can be, and are true -- unconscious or implicit bias can cause us to disregard entire racial groups as romantic/sexual candidates, even when we don't think of ourselves as holding racial prejudices; AND knowingly racist people can sexually desire members of other racial groups. The latter does not in any way prove that sexual "preferences" are entirely separate from racial bias. As another poster incredulously asked earlier, (and I'm paraphrasing, here): since we're really talking about RACIAL preferences in sex partners, how does declaring implicit RACIAL bias an entirely separate issue not sound ludicrous on its face?
It seems like people are using "preference" as a safety word to avoid an uncomfortable reality. But acknowledging this reality doesn't necessarily make any of us "bad" people. Irrationally denying it does, however, raise a whole new set of issues for us to deal with as a society at large, and within the LGBTQ community.
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All right, so what you're telling me is that it's very common for racists to be sexually attracted to the race they're racist against. So it sounds like you're just agreeing with me and saying that a person's racism and sexual attraction when it comes to race are separate issues. I'm glad you've come to agree with me. Thank you for illustrating my point.
Oh dear God. Seriously? What you took from that is that racism and sexual attraction are entirely separate issues because racists can be attracted to those against whom they're prejudiced? Does that also mean, for example, that sexism and sexual attraction are also entirely separate issues because misogynistic straight men are sexually attracted to women? The points that you and the other guy seem to be willfully refusing to see are that there are degrees of racism and bias, and that we are all affected in many interrelated ways by living in a culture where white supremacy (and also patriarchy) is the dominant ideology. Sometimes people are fine with their children befriending those of different races, but draws the line at dating; or is okay with dating but draws the line at marriage or having kids. Or people are fine with working alongside women or colleagues of a different race, but get uncomfortable if the woman or person of color is their boss. These are simplistic examples of the degrees of racism which wouldn't always get revealed if the relationships stayed at the level at which the person remained comfortable. Some of these people may not even have realized that they had these biases until confronted with the new situation.
Everyone in this society, even those of us who feel we're not racist or sexist, have been inundated with these ideologies and cultural norms our whole lives, causing them to manifest in various ways which often surprise us and appear counter intuitive. So, as in your example, you'll get a gay Asian man who's not attracted to other Asian men, or even a black person who doesn't find darker skinned black folk attractive. Members of these communities of color speak often as to, sadly, how common this is that racism is so pervasive that it can unconsciously impact us in ways we'd never think to expect. So why would white people, even well-meaning ones who sincerely don't view themselves as racist, be immune from this phenomenon? How you take that as illustrative of the notion that racism and sexual attraction are entirely separate issues defies logic.
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That's called designing a study to show a predetermined outcome. Obviously, there are some people who are racist and are turned off to a person physically because they're racist. So if you just survey people who are turned off by a certain race, you're going to pick up all of the racists along with those who are not, and in the group who are not turned off by a certain race, you'll therefore find far fewer racists (I do think it's safe to assume that it's very rare for someone who is racist to be sexually turned on by members of the race for which he's racist against). Even the very term they use to describe a racial sexual preference, "sexual racism," is a highly loaded term and points to the biases and intentions of the people who designed the study.
To illustrate, let take a hypothetical group of 100. 20 are racist, and dislike race X. 2 are racist, but in reality get turned on by race X. 20 are not racist, but don't get turned on by race X. The rest are neither racist and are fully capable of getting turned on by race X. If you did a survey of those who are and are not turned on by race X, you would find : Hey, 50% of people who aren't attracted to race X are racist, but only 2% of people who are attracted to race X are racist. While this does show an associated between dislike for race X and racism, it doesn't show causality. Association aside, racism and preference for certain races are separate issues.
I have a friend whose heritage is 100% Korean. I can tell you that he has never been turned on by Asian men, ever. There have been times I've gone out with him and pointed out a man I consider a smoking hot Asian, and I've said "Even that guy? You don't think he's attractive?" to which he replies negatively. He has plenty of Asian friends (and family, obviously), and I can assure you he's not the least bit racist. It's just a preference. I have another friend who has no interest in anyone over 5'7" (1.73 m). I point out hot tall men, and he's not interested. I point to a short guy and he goes nuts. We went out on a boat on a lake along with my Paraguayan ex and his short friend, and my friend was in ecstasy ogling the Paraguayan's short friend.
It certainly may be the case that much of our sexual preferences may be learned rather than acquired genetically or in the womb. I'm sure my sexual orientation itself was not learned. I don't know why I'm more attracted to men with dark hair, which I somehow associated with masculinity. Maybe it's because during my youth, Disney cartoon couples always showed the handsome man with darker hair and the woman with lighter hair. Whatever the reason, preferences and racism are separate issues.
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Oh my goodness. There's so much wrong with this that I don't even know how to wrap my head around it all. First, your general premise that preferences and racism are entirely separate issues is just flat out wrong, and I think you'd be hard pressed to find many credible social scientists who'd agree with that. As others in this thread have commented, what we find attractive, acceptable, reasonable, normal, etc., are not the result of benign innate mental processes. They're caused by a complicated mix of learned behavior and values, of which we may or may not be both consciously or unconsciously aware. Anecdotal stories do nothing to undermine the conclusion of a scientific study, even if it yields results that you find hard to accept, or uses terminology like sexual racism, with which you are uncomfortable. That you have an Asian friend who doesn't see other Asians as attractive doesn't prove that sexual preferences aren't a manifestation of racial prejudices. In fact it may prove the opposite - that white supremacy so infects our culture that it can result in someone who is unable to appreciate the physical beauty of people with whom he shares a racial or ethnic background.
"I do think it's safe to assume that it's very rare for someone who is racist to be sexually turned on by members of the race for which he's racist against."
-- Pardon my French, but are you freaking kidding me? Rather than being "safe," the general applicability of this assumption is pretty much conclusively disproved by human experience throughout history. That members of the African diaspora (i.e., black people from the Americas and Caribbean who are descendants of slaves brought to the "new world") have, on average, about 25% white European ancestry is living proof of the absurdity of this premise. There may be individuals to whom your assumption applies, but by and large, human beings can have all kinds of terrible beliefs and feelings about other groups of people but still be sexually attracted to members of those groups. Your conception of racism is way too limited, and these issues are far more complicated and multifaceted than your mostly anecdotal analysis will admit.
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Wow- this guy is gorgeous! Would love to know how to cross the massage to escort line...
In person, Dylan is actually even more handsome, if you can believe it. His smile is beautiful. But I may be underestimating how my perception may have been influenced by his personality. He was so polite and kind, unlike a lot of dancers who can come across as a bit standoffish (which, I recognize can be more of a defense mechanism in that line of work, but that's a whole other topic).
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I noticed that as well before taking the plunge. They're likely fake to boost his profile, but he looks like his pics and his massage skills are good. He's visiting from LA and used to be a go go dancer.
I can vouch that Dylan gave really sensuous lap dances when I saw him at the Adonis Lounge in Los Angeles last year. He was very sweet and polite, and as handsome as he is in his photos, he's even more so in person. I never got the chance to hire him for a private massage, though.
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One thing I think that our community, in particular, must deal with in our new reality (or at least just me), is reassessing safety as regards to both casual and intimate methods of contact. For the past quarter century, we've known that certain intimate behavior like kissing and even oral sex is very low risk for HIV transmission, so we're accustomed to viewing those acts as "safe" or "safer" as compared to anal sex. COVID-19 turns all of that on its head because exposure to droplets of saliva and/or nasal mucus appears to be its chief mode of transmission.
Kissing can now be a higher-risk behavior for a potentially lethal disease than anal or vaginal intercourse. That's hard to wrap my head around. Plus, it's unlikely that we'll have an effective and widely available vaccine before early to mid 2021, at the earliest, and the U.S.'s mass-testing infrastructure has been woefully inadequate. Given this current status, how many of us can really stay 100% celibate as to all sexual and/or intimate acts for a year or longer?
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Great Question. Topping just isn’t my thing but he sure had an awesome time! I had fun throughout and I’d give the encounter 2 thumbs up. Keep in mind that truthfully I’ve topped less than 10x in my life and it really was a rarity.
***Swooning, while this bottom slut logs onto RM and adds Mr. Powers to his Buddy List.***
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I can attest to his massage skills, but be forewarned if you ask for deep as it can verge on painful, but you walk out feeling great, especially if you get the combo package with final anal massage with his massive steel rod!!
Thanks for the info. If our schedules sync, I'll try him out.
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Type robbyger in the search box.
~Boomer~
Thanks, Boomer. Seems like he has good recommendations for his massage services. Nothing about his escort services, but there's a first time for everything, right?
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Any info on this handsome Ukrainian professional? He's in town only through Friday, so I may have to just take one for the team, unless I hear from one of you five gentlemen. Thanks in advance for the info.
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Mystery solved: he’s Brazilian. Review pending but feel free to PM me.
He could also be a Brazilian of Italian heritage. Plenty of Brazilians will claim all sorts of European ancestry, even if they don't have much hard evidence to back it up (no pun intended). It's probably not all that different from many Americans whose families have always believed to have hailed from one part of the world, only to later discover otherwise.
That being said, this guy certainly looks like he could pass for being of Mediterranean stock. It's an interesting academic question, but the bottom line is (at least as portrayed in the ad) the guy's pretty darn attractive. Perhaps @mikefl81's review will shed some light on the situation. I hope it was a positive experience.
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I, too, wonder what happened to this escort. He unlocked his private pics for me on RM last fall, but when I later contacted him to set up an appointment, he never responded. I've checked every now and then and see that his RM ad's still active, but he hasn't logged on to the site in quite a few months (since right around the time that I contacted him). I don't know if he just abruptly decided to leave the biz, but I hope it's that, rather than a more unfortunate reason. I'd like to see him if he chooses to rejoin the craft.
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I had a fun time with him when he visited NYC last year. Handsome guy, who's well-equipped, with a sexy accent and lean/ripped body. What's not to love?
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I had a fun time with him when he visited NYC last year. Handsome guy, who's well-equipped, with a sexy accent and lean/ripped body. What's not to love?
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No need to reply to this post with links to earlier posts in this forum - save yourself the time - I've seen them already.
None of them are very recent, nor contain much detail.He's in D.C. now, so please feel free to share here or PM me if you've had recent experience and info to share. Thanks much.
Can you provide a link in this thread, so we can at least see the ad of escort to whom you're referring?
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Who?
I was referring to Midtown Bull.
P.S. Here's a trick I figured out not too long ago here. When someone's message is a quoted response to another member's message, if you click the arrow on the right after "Forum Member said:" it'll take you right up to the quoted message. That's why we should all respond in threads by clicking "reply" to specific messages, so readers will always know exactly what we're responding to and they can click to read the original message in full. Cheers!
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OK, if you score with every guy on the list AND need a new list each month, then I feel justified in envy and really kinda hating you.
I wish I could afford to live that life you've just described! If I ever win the Powerball lottery, I just might take on that challenge, though.
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Very nice, highly educated, and real pics.
Thank you. He emailed me after seeing that I'd checked out his ad on RM. He was exceedingly polite. I'd love to wrap him up in a bow and show him off to the family at Xmas dinner.
None of them are very recent, nor contain much detail.
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I wish I could give you better advice, but I still don't really know the real difference between Only Fans and Just For Fans, so I can't offer much advice on how to market on those sites. I'm more of a "hire a guy in real life" type of client, and wish I'd taken the opportunity to see you when you were based out of NYC. My main issue with those fans sites is that they don't provide a real preview of the guy's page before subscribing, so I can't be sure if I'd even get much value out of it without knowing whether the page offers what I like.
I signed up for one of those Fans pages (don't remember which site, at this point) several months ago pre-pandemic just to support one of the strippers I used to get lapdances from at the Adonis Lounge here in NYC. I didn't find it to be all that interesting, but that might be because he was still working the kinks out on his page (the guy's a total sweetheart, although he's straight, so that might've been part of my issue with it).
Take the following advice with a grain of salt, given my limited experience with those forms of media. But, I'd personally like the more explicit content, with videos of hot scenes (either solo or with other hot guys), and I find it strange that guys would be intimidated by that. Tutorials on hygiene, sex tips, and even healthy eating/cooking I'd find valuable as well. Maybe you could even have different subscription models allowing for separate access to explicit content and tutorial content. Just my 2 cents...