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Early on in life an older and wiser woman taught me there are two things people always lie about...money and sex. So here we have someone making money by doing sex work. And anyone is surprised that some people lie? Protect yourself boys.

I may be generalizing, since I did not start using providers until I was past 65, but I am assuming many clients are "of a certain age." I think if you select providers who have been in the business for several years or more, who are not 20, and whose bio and reviews suggest they are professional and a nice person, you don't have a lot to worry about. My regular guys (early '30s, well-assembled, and stunning) tell me they have a wide variety of regular clients, from young professional gym bunnies who don't have time to date or Grindr, to many seniors who want and can afford the very best. By and large, few if any providers will have a long-term successful business if they discriminate on age. Do your research well, treat them as a valued professional, and enjoy!

Young people are definitely more casual about time and appointments than I was taught to be. A few years ago, around 5 pm I asked a young employee (college grad, several years solid work experience) what he was doing after work. He said "Oh it's my birthday, I think I'll have a party." I asked if he had invited people, and he said no, but he would send out a text, and they would meet at a bar. I couldn't believe it. The next day I asked him how it went, and he said around 25 people showed up. Clearly these people had nothing scheduled but just went with the flow. When I was middle-aged I had a job that involved lots of public events. My younger staff and I always laughed that "old people always show up early." Yup. And now that I am old, I show up places early.

When I was in my late '30s, my then-lover and I had the same gay GP. My lover and I were also social friends of the Doc and his lover, but there was never any sexual tension among us. One year, when I went for may annual physical, the Doc found a lump on one of my testicles. At the exam, he was also teaching a (straight) German exchange medical student. Being a thorough Doc, he examined the family jewels in great detail, manipulating them every which way, shining a light through the scrotum, etc. Then it was time for the med student to go through the same procedure, in even more detail since he was learning. As this beautiful bond Teutonic 20-something year-old was going over ever centimeter of my junk, I looked at the Doc, and he gave me a big wink. I cracked up. All above board, but I still think of it every time I see the Doc.

When I moved to San Francisco, I was taught the 15 rule...for work, for a lunch date, for a doctor's appointment, for whatever. When you depend on transit, there is no such thing as late...you get there when you get there. That being said, a prudent person knows this and leaves 15 minutes before he thinks he needs to. That being said, and having picked my providers carefully, I have never had to wait but a few minutes and they have never had to wait for me but a few minutes. And mostly not at all. Works for me.

My you are young. A lick and a promise goes back much further than that...my grandmother used it and I't be pretty sure she wasn't talking about blow jobs. Here's what google says: The origin of the colloquial expression “a lick and a promise” takes us back to the early 1800s. It was mostly used in the context of house cleaning, when maids or servants would skim over a bigger task to get the smaller tasks done first, with the intention of coming back and dedicating their full attention to it.

I haven't met w SS as I don't live in his city (current or soon to be) but he is a frequent contributor to this site and you will learn a lot about him by reading his posts. I find him a very attractive personality and would expect a good experience based on that.

It seems to me a major part of the concept of COM is to share real life experience about providers that you don't find on RM and other similar sites, what a particular venue is "really like," what is happening in the industry, and so on. Any time I have received a PM I have been happy to respond...that is why I read other people's reviews, and I assume that is why they read mine...to get the real skinny. Since some things are better not posted on a public message board, that is why PMs exist. I have always tried to be helpful even if the answer is "I don't know." And I have received grateful responses always or nearly always. Works for me.

I don't know what your type is but I have enjoyed TravisThailand a couple of times when we both were in Hawaii. Competent masseur, personable, friendly, warm. TravisThailand on RentMasseur RENTMASSEUR.COM View my profile on RentMasseur.com

Van Darkholme shows up in San Francisco periodically…performing at Dore Alley and Folsom Street fairs. That photo is at least 15 years old. Unfortunately, like us mere mortals, he has become decidedly middle-aged and is not the hot youth that ericwinters (and I) have dreamt about.

And here he is on RentMen https://app.rent.men/ROCCOAMERICA

I have had that experience with Rocco in Hawaii a couple of years ago. He is based in Yuma AZ but is frequently in LA and Honolulu. I see from his ad, he will be in LA May 2-4 on his way to Hawaii. (He also advertises on RentMen). I'd do it again! Rocco on RentMasseur RENTMASSEUR.COM View my profile on RentMasseur.com

I also think it would be helpful if the reviewer could provide some self-description. We often read that "mileage may vary by..." so this might give some indication if the provider has a pattern of acting differently with different ages/body types etc.

How are Spas defined? How are Strip Clubs defined? It seems to me there are Sex Venues (sex clubs, back rooms, video arcades, play parties, bathhouses, strip clubs, etc.) the purpose of which is a location to get down and dirty one way or another. And then there are legitimate (or mostly legitimate) Spas, the purpose of which is some kind of luxurious body treatment. There could be other ways to categorize venues also. I think what I am looking for on COM is info on places to get down and dirty.

How will providers be listed?...I hope by home location. If I'm going to, say, Chicago, I am only interested in reading reviews of Chicago providers. And even if providers are traveling, you can usually pick up their home location from RM/Rentmasseur. And for my home city, I might want to know who is new and hot. And within the location, by reverse date...latest first.

In San Francisco there used to be several local numbers you could call that were rotating hook up sites. And then people figured out you didn't even need to do that...just random dial any number in the Castro neighborhood phone exchange late at night, and there was at least a 50/50 chance that you would get a gay man ready for telephone sex.

Just google "gay sex stories" and a whole slew of sites come up. My usuals are nifty.org, gaydemon.com, and literotica.com, but there a lots of others.

For many years when I was in my 30's I saw a (gym-shorted and tee- shirted) masseur who provided me with excellent therapeutic massages. One time when I arrived, his lover answered the street-facing door wearing only a cockring. I wasn't sure what he was trying to convey, but I was too young and inexperienced to find out. Today I would just grab the goods, get on my knees, and trade the massage for a 3-way, me in the middle. Ah the lost opportunities of a misspent youth.

It's small unsophisticated local organizations and some huge national organizations that subsist on tens or hundreds of thousands of $100-and-under donations who are the ones that trade or buy and sell lists. No sophisticated donor giving say, $1000 or more, gives based on a random cold-call solicitation that comes over the transom. Large gifts come from personal knowledge of board members, actual experience with or involvement in the organization, a friend or family member who has benefitted from the services of the organization, personal solicitation by a friend or family member, etc. All of these sources already know your address, phone number, and email. In addition, often organizations like alumni associations utilize their students, and arts groups their fans, in say, annual "call-athons." The real purpose of these irritating events is more often actually not to solicit you as much as it is to build a cadre of committed students-soon-to-be-generous alumni and audiences-soon-to-be season ticket holders and legacy society members. I have been on dozens of boards and committees and am currently raising hundreds of thousands of dollars a year for five different organizations from people I know and whom I believe would be interested in investing in one of those organization. None of these groups would dream of anything but a personal solicitation. They know a taking a name off someone else's list is a waste of ink. And that the packets of greeting cards or "gifts" are tacky, tacky, tacky. Of course, when generous donors invest in my cause, I expect to be solicited by them in return to invest in a different cause. But I am signing up for that. And at my age, there are few things I am sure of, but one of those is I am not going to take it with me. I get great pleasure out of seeing my hard-earned money spent wisely while I am alive. When I am dead, I will not know or care.

Yes I go crazy once I have the perfect session scheduled. I can walk into the room already with a hard on. But that makes the climax all the more...should I say...explosive.

Research. Research. Research. Read their ads very carefully, including between the lines. Psych out their pictures and why they chose them. Set up your criteria that you think makes a good provider for you...age, years of experience, looks, body, percentage masseur vs. percentage escort, reviews, etc. What do you want, what are they selling? Use Companyofmen to do further research. When you think you are serious about a provider, PM on Companyofmen others who have used them, asking very specific questions on things that are important to you. While everyone is different and wants different things, and everyone has good days and bad days, this gives the best chance of success. I learned this after one early experience that put me off from using providers for three years. In retrospect all the signs were there...but I was thinking with my dick not my brain. And even in that case, as I was counting out my money I added a modest tip, just as he was about to ask for one. He was satisfied with a modest tip to match his modest services. It's personal, but I would rather I be the one to take the high road and be (modestly) generous. In any kind of business situation, I chose the path that causes me the least angst...sometimes that is just paying and licking my wounds, in other cases it's putting up an argument. Usually that's to pay what is asked and count myself lucky it's only money. But everybody's different. Oh yes, and I have two reliable providers I go back to time and time again. While variety may be the spice of life, I choose those I know will be fabulous and skip any possible disappointment or drama.

Giving money away responsibly and painlessly takes a little work and a little experience. For many years I have made about $50K/year donations to quality organizations mostly in the $500 to $1000 range, with a few donations of $5,000 or $10,000/yr. I have no problem with having my name published and then getting on lists. With just a few years to go, I am happy if listing my name helps a quality charity recruit other donors. The second most important reason people give to a cause (after a passion for the cause) is "who else gave?" I regard my gifts as an investment in groups I support and want other investors to join in. Organizations who buy lists are typically large national organizations who employ fundraising firms, as described above. (e.g., Father Flanagan's Boys Town. While I snicker at the idea of "Boys Town", I don't regard them as a quality charity.) Those outfits are easy to ignore. Take the ridiculous swag they send and throw the letter in the trash. Among quality charities, paying a fundraiser on commission is considered unethical and sleazy. And any reputable non-profit gives you an easy way to be removed from their lists...they are in the business of friendraising not enemyraising. I don't take phone solicitations. I just say "no thank you" and hang up. (Once you do donate by phone, your are typically on a periodic phone call list. So don't do that.) At my age, my goal is to die broke...you die leaving a million dollars, you lose; you die owing a million dollars, you win. Today I regard my job as giving money away (to a few darling young boys, and to a few high quality charities.) In both cases, it takes research, knowing who else "gives," thus a real value of (CompanyofMen for the boys) and donor lists for the charities.

Both Buffalo and Rochester pretty lame. Much better chances in Toronto, although I haven't been in a while and have no specific recommendations. Be sure and take your passport with you.

Has rimming always been as popular as it is now? I don't know how I missed it, but it was not in my repertory for my first few decades of gay debauchery. I remember being surprised when I first noticed it everywhere in porn. And now I wouldn't have sex without it, both as rimmer and rimmee. Ah, I get hard just imagining the feel of a tongue on my rosebud.

A while back my "straightish" college roommate was visiting me without his wife, we got a little drunk, ended up in bed, he fucked me, and then I blew him for a second round. I proceeded to give him a big kiss with his own cum. After he got over the initial shock of a mouthful of his own jizz I guess he decided he liked it...he comes back for repeats every chance he gets.