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When I was in my 20s I had many a fine dalliance in the T-room at Bloomies...although not in the fitting rooms...at that age I didn't shop so upscale!

I have had a couple of experiences. When I was just out of grad school I was living in Philadelphia, and preparing to take a cross country trip with my mother. I needed a new bathing suit, and went to a cute little downtown mens' shop. The proprietor was an older gentleman, clearly gay. He sent me to the dressing room, which was upstairs, and said he would bring me suits to try on. He started with the skimpiest of skimpy. He would turn his back, and then check out how it looked (and felt!) on me. Of course I immediately got a hard on, which he was only too happy to take care, swallowing every drop...wouldn't want to soil the merchandise. I ended up with a relatively modest boxer suit. As I traveled with my mother, it amused me when wearing that suit, what she would have thought if she knew how I got it. As an adult, I had a bf who wanted a leather harness with cockring. We went to MR S Leather in SF and tried on harnesses, me on my knees getting him hard for the full effect, as the clerk helped. This was half out of the dressing booth, in the aisle where all could see. But this being Folsom Street Week in San Francisco, hardly anyone bothered to check out the action...as everyone shopping was undoubtedly preparing for their own piggy times.

I used to do 1 hr first time, and if it was good, 90 minutes thereafter. However if he is well reviewed on C.O.M. and I perhaps had some positive private chat with the reviewer, I go right to 90 minutes.

I have to second LaffingBear. San Francisco and San Jose are very different places in very different locations. It makes no sense to travel between them for a couple of hours meet up. Do your research.

Asterisk’s comments are right on. The name “The Deli” is insiders speak. And the description is more about what it isn’t than what it is. Perhaps rename it “Specific Providers in the US and Canada “ and follow with the description as Asterisk suggests. How is it different from “Spas & Masseurs”? By Provider do you intend to mean escorts and by Masseur do you intend to mean individuals who are primarily masseurs with all the inherent wiggle room there is in those definitions? And how about the little used category of “Male Strip Clubs.” Isn’t this really about “Venues “ …but then how does it differ from half of “Spas and Masseurs “. And what does the title Daddy’s Den” mean and help with understanding the categories? I love COM and am really grateful to those of you who do so much work to keep it up. But I find the organization very confusing. My 2 cents.

Saw him twice a couple of years ago when our travel schedules meshed. Would definitely see him again if we are in the same city. Warm, intelligent, personable, and hot. Fine massage, terrific extras.

In my experience, the guidebooks to Europe call it darkroom; in the US it's more typically backroom. Anyway, as the bard said, "A rose by any other name would smell as sweet". I have had some great times in them.

Speaking of hotels not caring what you do in your room, when I was young I used to stay in cheap hotels in Paris...there were many hotels in tourist friendly neighborhoods, in fine old Hausmannian buildings, with formerly luxurious rooms now a little shabby, that had not yet been "Americanized"...iffy elevators, no room service, etc. One time I was coming back from a sex club at four in the morning and had to ring the bell as there was no doorman and they locked up at night. After ringing many times, a naked guy finally stood up behind the front counter, and buzzed me in. Then his naked trick for the night stood up next to him. If I hadn't been fully sexed out, we probably could have had a three-way right behind the counter. And they would hardly have been shocked if I'd had a companion with me.

Why would a hotel care who you are fucking in your room? A major purpose of hotels has always been a place for guys to be getting a little on the side. Believe me, you won't be the only one there doing the same thing. Pay your bill. Don't cause any hassle. Don't destroy the room. In less you are staying in a mom and pop run by religious fanatics, they don't care who you're bopping in there...which reminds me, in the 1960s when I was maybe 20, my "roommate" and I and two girls took a weekend trip and went to check into a small rural motel, asking for two rooms. The female inkeeper said "I don't rent to unmarried couples". We had to convince her we were not two couples but "two boys and two girls, and the boys would be in one room and the girls in another". She relented. And that's what we did. This was in the era before "gay" would have ever entered her mind, and grand old times were had in each room.

It may also be some of these guys think they still look like that. This is what friends (or maybe, COM commenters) are for...to tell you when you are fooling yourself when you think you actually look like you did twenty years ago. We've all known folks like this. I see naked 60-year olds walking around on the streets in the Castro, and think, "Girl, don't you have any friends who will give you a full length mirror?"

When I try a new masseur whose ad I find particularly hot, I am tempted to show up wearing a cockring. Other clients done this? How did things work out? Masseurs, what do you think? Good idea or bad?

Yes it pays to think with your big head not your little head. Every gone away for a weekend with a friend you thought you really knew but did't? Even without the dynamics of sex, much less the escort/client dynamic, try it out first.

It could also mean "I don't normally clean out before sessions. If you want me to bottom, you'd better warn me." I would always be clear in setting up the appointment who's top and who's bottom if you want it to go there.

When I was in my early 30s I had a regular masseur whom I met at his apartment...strictly legit, but only because I didn't know any better. One time when I arrived, his husband answered the street door, wearing only a cock ring. I would have loved a 3-way with those two, but I was too naive at the time to pursue the idea. A few years later, when I arrived at the apartment of my then-regular masseur/escort, he met me at the door and said "My mother's in the other room, so we have to be quiet". The "other room" was through an archway with a curtain across...no door, much less a lock. We did our usual massage followed by sex, him joining me on the massage table, and him reminding me "shhhh" at the moment of truth so mother wouldn't hear. I thought it was funny at the time..."look what we got away with." I'm not 30 anymore and today I definitely want to know in advance if there is someone else there. A couple of years ago when I arrived at my then- regular masseur's one-room studio, his newish lover was there, and left when I arrived. The masseur apologized and said it was a one-time occurrence. When I left afterwards, the lover was in the lobby watching me get off the elevator and looking none too pleased. It really irritated me. If the lover had wanted to join in 3-way it would have been a different thing. Somehow, those two worked it out because the lover was never in sight again during massages, I am glad to say.

I was an acquaintance of a provider who advertised muscle worship...by which he meant no touching...all he was selling was letting his clients look at him and jerk off...no touching either way. As one can imagine, this ended up in some unpleasant encounters for everyone concerned...no one quite imagined that is all they were going to get. Not surprisingly he ran out of clients quickly and moved in search of clients from the Castro to Manhattan to Wilton Manors to Hillcrest...where he seems to have disappeared. Yup, you'd better be specific.

How many husbands do I have? One at a time, mostly. The others are just hookups.

A gay masseur and a gay client...pretty common indeed! I remember forty years ago, this skilled therapeutic masseur asking..."Is it ok if I touch your cock?" "Please do" was the answer. I can't imagine it any other way.

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This poor boy needs the steady hand of an older experienced man to teach him the niceties of life. This one is more than I would be up for, but I have often given young men marketing advice, helped re-write their ads, provided financial advice, boyfriend advice, etc. This is one beauty of a May - December relationship, paid or not. The older man provides life guidance and the younger man provides searing hot sex. Works for me.

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IMO, this will make it harder for clients to know what they can actually expect...If therapeutic was "no touchy no feely", sensual was "some" but not the "most" which was erotic. Now all one will know is it's more than nothing, but not how much. I think this will result in a lot more crossed expectations.

@pubic_assistance thanks for starting this thread…it’s pretty awe-inspiring. I think I’d better go jerk off.

Interesting. In 2019, just after the legalization of homosexuality, I (then age 76) marched in the Gay Pride Parade in Mumbai. I got a lot of attention too. Not sure just why. I can imagine several cultural explanations, but I just took it and enjoyed those stunning Indian men.

My mother always told me never to let a man see me completely naked...always wear string of pearls, or a smart cocktail hat in bed.