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Do most of you realize that many, if not most of the dancers in these bars are straight men?

This beta site may still have issues. I did a keyword search "dad" and it yielded 55 masseurs and missed three of my favs, BigTallMuscle of Dallas, TouchbyAl of VA and MikeforMassageFX of VA. It also said nearby masseurs were in Alaska and British Columbia. I did the same keyword on the regular site and received 150 masseurs. Oh, and I did not provide my GPS but I live in south Florida.

or hire one that lists on both rentmasseur and rentmen sites as you know they won't have such 'limits' and erotic massage could possibly accommodate a little sex play.

I don't see him on that site as of 7-31-24. Seems to be only on RentMan as MasterBossDadSir and RentMassuer as BossHand

There are not a ton. At Johnsons, a small number of leather guys might stop in early (like 8 or 9 pm) for a drink or two, and then head out to the leather bars. I suspect it would be same with Lucky Horsehoe, although I agree with a previous post that there used to be more IML parties at bars with strippers/sex shows during IML weekend when I lived there. There were a few bars that did specifically advertise for the IML crowd but Lucky Horseshoe did not.

Did Daniel take Matt up on his advice? He looks much better and more muscular in this photo than the ones that were shared earlier....

Plenty of older guys are drinking when I go into Johnsons or any of the other bars on Wilton Drive. Older guys have money and can be very generous with lap dances. Concerning women, I am reluctantly okay with Johnson's policy of some limited access if we want it to remain a strip bar for men, although it is a tough one for me to agree as a POC person. Although since many if not most of the dancers at Johnson's are heterosexual or bi, I am sure that the dancers would not mind. And you are right about preferences, as one of the Johnson's owner was a bodybuilder, and he seems to prefer the bodybuilder types. If Johnsons was open door, it could easily become a bar for bachelorette parties, and I am not sure we want that. When I was in Chicago, Naked Boys Singing started out with mainly gay audience but then became a bachelorette party audience according to some people who told me. The play lasted for years as there was a big market for this new audience.

I think it varies. I've heard that some bars required dancers to pay a fee, which varies depending on the day and time - for example, Friday and Sat are higher fees and later in the evening the fees increase. I've heard others bars don't charge a fee or a smaller fee, but get a cut of the private dance charge. I'm not complete sure, but I presume in the case of Boardwalk FTL, they get the $20 fee that you have to pay just to enter the private lap room every time and Johnsons gets the one-time fee of $10 for the wrist band. I would guess that Johnsons still charges a fee for the dancers as the one-time $10 wrist band surely would not give that much additional income. I'm not sure if Boardwalk also charges a fee since they do get the $20 every time you enter. I also remember seeing the doc on the Swinging Richards and I believe that they said the DJ even gets a cut of the revenue...I would like an older dancer, but I do like daddies...

Sorry, but no. He's obviously a boy type, and Johnson's FTL did have a few boy types, but they were generally clean cut boys. It seems like he would be the type for the New Orlean's Corner Pocket. I looked at the LeBoy FTL webpage and I don't think they would even hire him as their boys are clean cut (I noticed years ago that some of the boy types from Johnsons would tend to migrate to LeBoy.

I bet Lucky Horsehoe is enjoying the apparent controversy and delays. Not that south FL competition will be comparable, but I heard that Boardwalk tried to derail Johnson's success early on by complaining to the local authorities that Johnson's did not have the right to offer parking on the lot next to the club. I don't know if that rumor was true, but Boardwalk stopped advertising in the LGBT papers and although they are still in businesses, I heard that they are only really busy after midnight and later. I haven't been in Boardwalk in ages...

They are not saying why. Perhaps we will find out in a few days. The new Instagram account is @gaggleds. At first, I was wondering why this new Instagram account popped up on my subscription list but then I listened to the recent posts.

It's been shut down by the city of Oakland Park. The owners say that they have not done anything wrong. They even had to delete their Instagram account.

And now you can deposit checks with a smartphone app for many banks without going to the bank. And a certified/cashier's check is considered as good as cash. I could possibly see accepting a cashier/certified check option for an overnight or offering to pay the provider to your city and having a weekender. I would expect that you and the provider have a good relationship, and you have lots of money. Sometimes having lots of cash is as much a risk to you as you might misplace some of it. When I moved about 4 years ago, the moving company insisted on a cash payment (I believe that is mostly a custom even now), so I went to the bank and took at the $1500 in 100 bills to pay. Then when I counted it a few days later, it was only $1400. I have no idea what happened to the $100, but that's why I hate carrying around a lot of cash.

He's back advertising. His partner says that they are moving in the fall. I'm visiting in November and hope they are still there but may have to make a summer trip... mikeformassageOC on RentMasseur RENTMASSEUR.COM View my profile on RentMasseur.com

Yes, that's the guy. Is he there only on certain days, like weekends?

His instagram shows him dancing in Tampa but the Best Flex site says he's available to meet in Miami Beach. Bit I suspect he is based in the Tampa area. Does this mean that he is a regular at Tampa? I turned a meeting down but would like to inspect him in person...

Both sites seem to be down right now - for providers, do you get any credit for disruptions?

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Don't see any profiles. I thought they had some year ago. It's best to go through the pictures on the webpage and Instagram and I would guess you would find a pic of the dancer, especially if it is recent.

Landlords can make most spaces work for money. Hope it is true. Will be interesting as it is just a few short blocks from Lucky Horseshoe - just a walk from the Shoe to the near the El transit.

Oh, that's right. Berlin did close after 40 years. Although there is a builder proposal to re-develop 200 W Belmont, but it does not seem to be the building that housed Berlin. This will be interesting, if true. Montreal, meet Chicago and walk from Lucky Horseshoe to Johnson's !

No word yet on Chicago. However, a Chicago friend did say that the owner of Lucky Horseshoe has been trying to sell the place.

The ad did say "clients above 60 will have a better experience elsewhere, thank you." While I certainly agree with you (and I am over 60), I would think it is best to move on to another masseur. He's probably more interested in sex as he does not even advertise his rate. He's also new so we will see how long he lasts as some new providers are "flighty." I saw a RM ad saying that they only wanted naturally born men, and while I am a naturally born man, I would not use that provider either.

Rentmen.eu still exists for me as does Rent.Men.com. For Rentmen.eu, you can view the new listings as there is a tab on that site but not on the Rent.Men.com. It also seems that you get listings worldwide (outside of the Americas) for the Rentmen.eu compared with Rent.Men in general searches. For example, when I searched for all listings over 55, I got a total of 87 for Rent.Men (it gave me a count) but 102 for RentMen.eu (I had to count) and I did see that the RentMen.eu site had Europe and Asia listing but not the Rent.Men. But if I put the non-America's city in the Rent.Men site, it will find the listing; for example, there is one listing from Oslo that shows in the general search on RentMen.Eu but not on the Rent.Men but if I add Oslo to the Rent.Men with the 55 and over age, it will show up. So, perhaps Rent.Men is geared to US and Americas and RentMen.Eu for non-Americas

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