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It's pretty normal for 60 min sessions to be in the 50-55 min range at spas. You have to have some time in between appointments for the "2pm" client to get dressed and out before the "3pm" client arrives. Even if it's not the same masseur who has an appointment right after you, another masseur might be using that room. 

Just weighing in here.  I have gone to HK / 27 regularly for some time.  I’ve had nothing but excellent experiences.  I appreciate the efforts they make to keep the space clean and inviting and most of all relaxing.
 

Similar experience.

Similar experience.

There was an Asian spa I used to frequent. Most of the therapists were women, but there were two men who mainly worked on walk-ins for 10-30 minute chair massages. I visited a few times, hiring the females for private room 60-90 minute massages, while eyeing one of the two guys, a late 20s very cute twink. 
On my third visit the female was flirting with my junk, which led me to believe I could make an attempt with the male twink. 
On the next visit I specifically reserved him. I stripped down and covered myself with a sheet face down. He walked in and started the massage. A few times my hands brushed his crotch, but he remained professional, focused, and clothed. 
When I turned over, I was semi-hard, but the sheet was covering me. He kept a cautious distance from my cock, but we were gazing into each other’s eyes. I took one of his hands to guide him to my nipples and he took the bait. I reciprocated and had him naked within a minute. It evolved from there….
I ended up seeing him about six more times and then one day found out he returned to Asia. Needless to say I haven’t gone back since, but occasionally check to see if they have any younger masseurs. 

You may have missed some opportunities, but your approach sounds very respectful towards the providers - which is far more important in my opinion.

Do any of you guys have stories about 100% therapeutic masseurs giving you a HE or even more? I see a guy monthly (great massage!) in my area, he’s fit, attractive… married with a family… and very professional with how he moves the sheet or blanket to uncover a part of the body.
A few sessions ago, I became hard (I know, totally natural) and he kind of chuckled as I apologized and said not to worry about it, he’s been doing massage for years… etc. The next session as he was working my quads… Bam! The blood started flowing again. I would have loved nothing more than to have his hand slip under the sheet and blanket.
I would never ask for a HE or do anything purposefully to make him uncomfortable, but wanted to know if any of you have had similar happen but found that a hand DID slip under the sheet. 

I echo @Tate27's experience. 

I've done it at both locations with multiple masseurs and all experiences have been good. Water temp is always fine, they ask if it's comfortable for you. I do find the rooms at 27 to be more spacious and comfortable but either is fine - don't hesitate!

I finally did the scrub/massage combo for my last 2 appts — and wondered why I’d never done it before — thoroughly enjoyed it. But have never done just a scrub.

Go see Andy at Epic.

I walked by TSMS an hour ago and it is still closed. It looks like nobody has been there for a while. 

Good experience with Simon at Energy.

Kenny is Chinese and Rox is Filipino?

I think there is a misunderstanding here. Expecting a tip is fine, asking for one is not fine. Imagine if your waiter in a restaurant or your hairdresser verbally asked you “How much will you tip?”
But this is especially a problem since asking for tip in exchange for extra services would get the place closed, and forbidden to do business, if the client is an undercover policeman. This has happened to Time Square Men Spa very recently, another spa which is only 10 blocks from HK men spa. And it will happen again. 

Not sure but I was just with a Simon at Energy on 23rd.  Recommended!

Please trust that we are already doing our best to make our spa better. We pay attention to every positive and negative review from our customers, and we make improvements based on the feedback. However, we have our own standards for deciding whether or not to terminate an employee.
You mentioned your issue was not resolved and asked me to fire Adem. My answer is: I will not fire Adem, because many other customers appreciate and enjoy his service. Another reason is that the complaint you provided about your experience with him was vague and unclear.
If you are very dissatisfied with that particular session, we are willing to offer you a refund. If you don’t feel comfortable seeing him again, you are welcome to choose another therapist or visit a different spa.
Most of our staff here are young people in their early 20s, and it’s natural for young people to make mistakes. I hope everyone can be more understanding and patient with them. Especially during this difficult time, they truly need this job.
As you may have noticed, there have been changes in our schedule, and for those employees who have seriously crossed the line, we have taken termination measures as well.

The whole extras business can jeopardize the business. But that's what this facilities are really surviving on. Otherwise you'd go to a legit spa. There are discrete ways of communicating what is offered and what is being exchanged.

I would also keep in mind that most of these guys are obv not from the States and are v likely v worried re everything going on w/ ICE, etc., right now. Some are also working multiple jobs (1 told me he’s a landscaper AND a bartender for a catering company as well), so their lives are by no means easy. I can’t blame any of them for trying to make an extra buck (while still making it an enjoyable experience).

Having read all these posts I have two thoughts: You guys in NY are so lucky to have a place like this. And I really liked the responses the manager gave to the various comments and complaints. 
Just keep going guys. It's the only way they'll stay in business, obviously.

Adem is one of the better masseurs there, if not the best. He's got spa training and have done massages over 8 years. If you don't want to get asked for a tip then keep your hands to yourself. 

Call 311? Girl - WTF is that gonna do? You know there are always two sides to the coin. Why don't we ask Adem what this queen wanted in return for the tip requested??? I've had quite a few massages by Adem and he is very consistent and always attentive to our time together.
Fire him? Take a seat sista ..... 
 

Agreed. I hope for the best but if I have a bad experience, I just don't see that masseur again. When I have a good experience, I tip well and see them again. (And usually they earn a bigger tips during future visits too! lol)

Let’s be real, these guys don’t have to do anything they don’t want to do and if you go you should walk in with zero expectation and be respectful and see what happens. If you don’t love your session don’t see that masseur again.  

Kudos! I joined this site over 2 years ago. I read backwards 2-3 months to get a picture about many of the masseurs at the Manhattan spas. I DM'ed people to learn more details. Only one masseur at 27 Men's Spa was unprofessional (he no longer works there, but not even because I filed a complaint as I just moved on to someone else). There was also someone at Grandee who almost injured me, and they waited to make sure I was OK at no charge and gave me a free massage when I recovered. I have noticed especially in the last 6 months how many people have posted 4 times in total and make a derogatory comment. They likely re-join a couple of months later under a different name and say something else. Why not stay with your same name for 2 years and show your comments consistently? We all know these kinds of customers will NEVER do that. I have been upsold, but I will argue that many times the amount suggested was what I would have tipped anyway for extras, sometimes even less than what was fair, and I gave the higher amount anyway. There are A LOT (how many exclamation marks should I add here) who blatantly want serious extras (from totally naked masseur to much more) and want to tip less than $80 for such full-service. If they don't get it, they make vague accusations about the masseur. For the claim Yura does not answer in-box messages, I don't even know how to do that, but all I can say VERY simply is that if you can't visit the site during the weekdays when he almost always is there, then call him between 11 AM to 6 PM. When I call to book a session that isn't late night or on the weekend, he almost always has been there and even the person who took the initial call.