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When my first contact is via text it reads something like this: "Hi [insert escort name here if they listed it in their ad]. I saw your RM profile and am interested in a potential meeting. LMK when is a good time to text." When he replies that he can text I tell him what I get into and ask his thoughts. If he replies affirmatively, I ask if he would share his rate. And then I book or not book.

I usually give 15 to 30 minutes, depending on how far he is coming from.

Not really. This forum's membership skews toward the US. It is also a very small segment of the population. They have an expired ad under TheJockandBear, which links to their Twitter profile. The Twitter profile has current pics and links to their OF.

Couple of things: Ali_greekbody lists his height as being 5'9", while Muscle_dadd lists his as being 5'6", so not the same stats unless Ali_greekbody recently changed his. Muscle_dadd's headline reads "PNP MUSCLE PAPI." Kissing or no kissing, he's into PNP.

I'm sorry you had a not-so-great experience but do thank you for taking one for the team and reporting back.

That was exactly what I thought when I saw the title of this thread.

I haven't hired him but have purchased a custom video from him. The price was extremely reasonable (approx. half of what many OF guys charge), the vid exceeded my expectations, and he created/sent it very promptly. If I was able to get to LA while he is in town I would absolutely hire him.

Although I'm not a fan of being required to subscribe to a provider's OF, when a provider has one, I usually subscribe first to get an idea of the provider's current look.

Moderator's Reminder: Please do not post information about someone that could reveal their identity. This includes (but is not limited to) workplaces, schools, and social media (unless the social media is available on a provider's profile).

Someone listened to this song and took its message to heart! Getting back to the topic, he's now on my list for when I visit NYC!

Moderator's Note: This topic has run its course and gone too far with moderator's warnings being ignored and personal attacks made.

I was about to add him to my buddylist when I saw his hashtags.

He listed PNP as an interest and specifies the hashtags "party" and "pnp."

Moderator's Warning: Stick to the topic (a provider who requested a deposit when the client was in the lobby) and stop the bickering.

WTF? He wanted a deposit to let you up to his room? That's crazy. And then to pull the abusive shit? You certainly dodged a bullet there.

Long ago he advertised as DesertCowboy and advertised as GoodCompanyAZ from 2021 to at least June 2023. I hired him several years ago and wouldn't repeat.

Hmm - for me, guys always reply with either their 2-hour rate or that they don't offer multi-hour rates at less than their hourly times the number of hours.

My experience is that most guys (not all, but most) will offer a "session rate" as @MikeBiDude called it. Typically, I'll ask "what are your rates for one, two, and three hours?" It gives them the opportunity to offer a "session rate" without me having to ask about a "discount."

Getting the thread back on-topic...No, I do not think you should ask for a discount. If the services are not what you typically get (i.e. a massage on a table) then don't hire the provider.

In 25+ years of hiring, I've never experienced this. Then again, in 25+ years of hiring I haven't "rejected" anyone. I've declined to hire for various reasons (out of town, budget didn't allow, I was tired or sick...) but have always said something like "Hey, thanks for letting me know you are in town. I'd love to get together, but I can't because [insert reason here]."

Whether your gut says "yes" or "no," you should always follow it. Doesn't matter whether you are a backup client or not. Follow your gut.

Thanks for that feedback. I considered hiring him last time I visited NYC but ended up hiring someone else. Nice to know he can step out of the dom persona.

For those just tuning in, here's the link to his RM profile and to the rentmen.eu version.

The VacuVin works great. The Coravin just seems like a waste of money.

I've never had a problem booking with Mike. He is always prompt with his replies and is ready when I arrive.