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Years ago, the writer and escort, John Preston noted that twinkish escorts didn’t know how to run a business. I suspect what gets attributed to the generation of the moment is just that. They’re not organized, the don’t have a vocabulary or attitude for effectively communicating with guys much older than hey are, esp. if hey don’t have “daddy” interests.

There’s long been websites and, before that, publications focusing on independent travelers. They’ve always skewed young because there is usually an emphasis on saving money and doing things that are a bit often the beaten path or at least not overwhelmed by package tourists. This backpacker type travel requires some degree of physical fitness, too. I’ve done lots of this kind of traveling and have been able to do it much longer than I expected. There also are lots of older, independent travelers, which I’ve noticed more as I get older (but noticed even ages ago; they tended more to be straight couples from Europe). There is probably more content now that addresses women and older travelers. Gays might be too niche to generate a lot of content although I think you can find gay travel sites that include solo traveler hints, esp. for SE Asia. Gays always have been a part of the independent travel community, more so in certain destinations than others, particularly overseas. Personally, I find the thought of going to Vegas or Wilton Manors depressing, with or without company, and if typical gay destinations in the US are your thing, you won’t find much relating to solo travel to those places. They really don’t fit the ethos of what motivates most independent travelers, with the possible exceptions of Ptown or Key West, which in past times were the kind of places that attracted a wide variety of people who didn’t want to go to a typical “resort”. To get back to thread topic…..if you primarily want companionship, I’d have to suggest getting a referral from someone here or your regular life. Otherwise, you’d want to go with someone whom you know already. As has been mentioned on the overnight and other long-term hire threads, you need someone who will trust you and whom you can trust and enjoy as company for long periods of time. I know there are people who, for geographic reasons, can’t do a trial run very often, but you still need to cover the trust and communication bases and a referral would enable you to do that. Escorts often will give a better rate to a repeat client if they’re interested in the destination and depending on the expenses you’d need to cover, the whole thing may cost about the same as a multi day hire with an RM guy.

Another way to think of it is as a classic Plan B occupation, like real estate or many areas of sales. The opportunity presents itself or they know or discover someone who already is doing it. Also, there are reasons for starting and often other reasons for staying. It’s a relatively efficient way to generate cash flow, it allows non-traditional hours which can be useful for other things like school, avocations or pursuits like art or writing that can take years, at best, to become primary occupations. You have to be good at it to make a long-term go of it and it helps to have a greater than average sex drive and some openness to sexual experience.

He responded to an initial email, asking about travel to Cleveland. He said to just give him notice. I indicated I’d be there in about a week and mention a multi hour appt. Never received a response. He has OF—not sure I can post the name because it gets you closer to his personal info. The one thing I learned was that he’s about to be married (to a guy). I wonder how committed he is to escorting, despite running the ad.

I saw the interview. It doesn't add up and neither does he. He works full time and has 3 other jobs? I noticed that he has a lot of content on OF, but he makes it sound like he doesn't. He seems to be escorting so he can travel to do OF. He talks about depression, yet he works in a field full of judgment about physical stuff and in a business where he's needs to be attentive of others' possibly troubling experiences.---doesn't sound like a good fit.

A very odd thread. OP asked a fairly straightforward question, grammar aside. Yet, he’s only gotten one real answer. The general question of who’s a good escort for older guys has been asked repeatedly but not recently answered without all the snark and silliness. There are plenty of older posters here and plenty from the East Coast, so I’m sure there is plenty of wisdom to be offered. Is it that OP agave a specific number for his age? Are posters afraid to out themselves? It’s a simple question and it deserves some answers.

Jason is a terrible interviewer---he either talks over guests or doesn't know what to do with them. The few I've watched have had chatty guys who had some interesting experiences. Jason lacks real curiosity and seems uncomfortable with a lot of things--drag, gender diversity, and apparently non-monogamy of all things. He also seems uncomfortable discussing escorting. Jason insists on being on camera, often with some sort of pose (cigar smoking, etc.).

OP--are you going to be there for an extended period or just for a short trip? My impression is that the providers there are relatively expensive regardless and that should be a consideration. It doesn't seem like there's a lot of direct experience and only one person who has experience in Muslim countries. Others--this has become a major business destination (so some wind up there for work) as well as a place with futuristic architecture and a lot of hype for being "glamorous". I could see doing a layover out of curiosity (I did this in Qatar) but it sounds like the kind of bucket list destination which wouldn't appeal to me for a long visit. I recently met someone who mistook the UAE hype for what the "Arab world" and "Arab cultures" were like--having travelled in Jordan, Syria and Egypt and having known people with long-term connections to Lebanon and North Africa, it was easy to disabuse him of that.

Members here, whether clients or providers, have come and gone. Some stay for a long time, some come and go. Some providers who are members have been sharp in their responses to criticisms, others not so much. The most vociferous responses to criticism often comes from “fanboys”, whether providers ask them to do it or they do it on their own, that’s often a pattern. Some of the providers here seem to enjoy the community, others, usually short-timers mostly are building their brand. There are now more social media venues for that, so we seem to have fewer short time provider participants.

The Search function is your friend. CalFurey has been discussed numerous times and I think the last thread includes his previous name. Dario also has been discussed numerous times, but not lately.

Yes, a client is buying fantasy but that doesn't mean that any and all fantasies are up for consideration. Plus-ones for weddings, etc. can be all manner of persons in an individual's life and even if people assume "they're dating", you don't have to create an impression of anything serious and heh easiest way to introduce someone is as "a friend" and to say "I thought he might enjoy" the occasion.. If OP's client wanted an elaborate backstory and behavior suggesting a very close relationship, I could see opting out of that---it turns something simple into a lot of work.

This has been discussed so many times.....when providers talk about their clientele, the youngest end of the spectrum seems to be mid/late 30s. The higher end seems to vary a lot but at least falls into the 50s, although some will report well into the 70s. and few, like Hagen have had even older clients There are some long-term past/present posters who were in their 80s. When I've attended DC meet-ups. I would guess that ages ranged from late 40s to 70s. The long-term guys for whom this is a profession are accustomed to their clients being older, sometimes quite older than them. Some, like Mike Gaite have indicated that they've always been into guys older than themselves. If there's going to be a problem it will be among younger guys, new to the occupation. The youngest guys tend to be disorganized as business people which makes me glad I'm not interested in twinks. There is huge turnover within the first month of an ad and some others don't last more than a few months. The best advice if you want to avoid perceived rejection is to wait and see who establishes themselves and to look at comments here. If you're self conscious about your appearance, join a gym and get into a program of exercise and diet. You'll live longer and ultimately will be happier. Again, providers for whom this is a profession or at least a long-term gig, will have seen it all and will accept the range of guys they see. Newbies---well, wait and see who sticks around. If you're self-conscious, you probably don't want to be someone's "training case".

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If you don't do deposits, then don't. It's not the end of the world if you don't see this guy. It may be that requests them when he travels---that would be undertsnadable but if you don't do deposits, it's his loss.

Backing away from Memorial Day in particular, this thread reminded me that on one desolate Christmas Day in DC, I was walking to a relative’s house late in the afternoon. Who should come jogging down the sidewalk but Mike Gaite. So, asking if someone is available and even traveling on a holiday, you maybe surprised who might respond.

For me, the non-response is cyclical, but it's always more common among younger guys, who are much more likely to lack life experience that helps in running a service business. Sometimes you get a response, but it's delayed. Someone whose generally gotten a good reception was visiting, so I reached out early because I was only going to be here one day during his visit. No response---then on the day I'd requested, I get messaged in the afternoon saying he was available that day and the next--perhaps he thought plans might change, but by that point I was busy getting ready for my trip. There are other guys who will say yeah. sure but nail down a time, then pop-up when they're available. There have always been a few providers considered by some to be special enough for that kind of scheduling. Not for me, though.

Anything you do has probabilities attached. Eliminating PNP providers reduces but doesn't eliminate the risks. OP is obviously anxious about all this, but in the bigger scheme of things the risk are low esp. making use of the site.

The corollary would be if you visit their home turf on a semi-periodic basis (and they're not a frequent traveler) and you usually try to schedule them. Noting that you're a regular visitor upfront may be helpful. A consideration to be made is that long-term providers will ask questions that might get at whether someone will repeat. Providers who are in it for the short-term and those who don't want to deal with clingy clients will not do this.

The usual objective is for the provider to get you off. If him getting off is essential, then you need to negotiate that ahead of time, although I doubt that anyone can guarantee that outcome.

How do you slow down in the privacy of your own home? Some things like thinking of Mamie Eisenhower will kill the mood with a provider, but start with what works for you. Having a person there to help you do whatever is part of the service that a good provider can accomplish.

Such as what? Seizures, overdose, projectile diarrhea, belting out showtunes? None of these have happened to me, btw. You don't need up to date basic life saving to hire. Some guys have had providers show up, obviously on drugs---if you stay away from "PNP" in the "intos" (as I do), then that shouldn't be a problems. If you're a newbie, your own anxiety will require more management than anything that goes on with a provider.

Evan Bedford has been around for ages and so has that picture.

Interesting thread. The only posters that say they've met him have very few posts to their credit. Yes, you have to start somewhere but when the only posts come from them, and one protests bit much, well....... The guy takes the name of pornstar who had enough career to photos and an easily found real name with some semi-recent social media; so you could see he wasn't the guy. The OF sounds like the most scammy type---very brief, poorly shot videos, so whole thing sounds like a grift and hardly worth 3 threads. There was enough initial interest in this guy that there seemed to be some unicorn hunting behavior---despite plenty of warning, there's always someone who wants guys with negative leading experiences or questionable supporters hoping they'll be lucky. Usually, they're not and it's better to save your money. My 2 cents on Atlanta: I used to live there and have frequently returned for work. It may be similar in size to other cities, but it's , eh Atlanta. There usually have been a small number of credible, reasonably long-term guys, but also quite a few who come and go (w/o much credibility) and and many who don't last long or simply not very good or reliable. Atlanta is very transient, esp. among younger people. It's also frankly kind of grifter-ish with lots of would-be entrepreneurs chasing a fast buck and looking for people who are ultimately bigger suckers than they are. It also has a poor reputation among traveling guys---fewer and less lucrative customers than they expect.

I think it's more typical to be a trainer or go into real estate than to be a lawyer. Some go back to the kinds of jobs they had beforehand--hospitality, bartending, haircutting. Some comeback after having done physical training and real estate. What most of these have in common is that they are Plan-B occupations.

Can't be bothered. I'm surprised anyone who had to deal with his unprofessionalism would try again.