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Hey guys... this is a genuine question.  I will be interested in getting your thoughts.  I just had an interaction with a provider that turned - well nasty - actually.   I always like to see what I could have done differently - if anything - or is this really someone's issue.
I was planning a business trip about a week before the trip was supposed to take place.  I reached out to a few providers in the city that looked like a match.
I reached out to one - and said - I was planning a business trip for the following week and that although I wasn't sure how the schedule was going to shake out... if it went as I had hoped - Friday or Saturday would be my availability.  Asked whether he would be available in there - and rates etc.  I closed with "I will get back to you when I have more details."
My boss - being my boss -kept changing plans so I could not - in my view - finalise anything.  The provider reached out on Thursday with a ?.  I didn't answer it because I still didn't know.  On Friday - the plans changed.  The provider reached out again - and I said that I was sorry but the venue changed and I would not be around.
He was incredibly angry.  In his view, I had "scheduled" an appointment.  The text stream was - wild.  From his perspective - he had traveled to this city because people told him they wanted to hire him - but almost everyone canceled that week.  I can't speak to that.  The texting went on for a while - and he said he wanted to talk to me on the phone - which I agreed to do.  
He read me the riot act - pretty aggressively - about bothering people when I wasn't sure of my schedule. That in his view it was definitely happening on Friday or Saturday.  My view was - it isn't considered a booking until we have a date, time and place.
I offered half his fee - trying to see it from his standpoint - which he said was not enough.  I did not feel that I had done anything that warranted a full fee.
I have never had a provider get that angry before.  I really respect the work providers do - this was surprising to me.  When I have given less than 24 hours notice for an actual appointment where we have agreed on a date, time and place - I have paid.  Thoughts?  

WOW, what a specimen! to eat him alive.

Had a session with him recently.  Could not have been better from my perspective.
Very professional - scheduling was easy.  He is a little shy at first - but warms up quickly.  He is clear about the variety of massage he offers and the price. His massage skills are incredible... even without the erotic part I would have loved the massage.
That being said, the erotic part was mind blowing.   His body is insane.  Enjoy!  One of the best m4m massages I have ever had. 
 

Hey guys - anyone with intel on https://app.rent.men/ChrisRW?  Thanks so much - love the forum. 
 

It was one of those situations where - you wonder whether you should say something - but - he was such a nice guy... In the end, I would not have hired him if I had known his current body status (just on my preferences - nothing to do with body shaming) - but - he had a good attitude - and - sexy foreskin lol.  But yeah - lesson learned. 

Nope!  I think I was a bit disappointed in his appearance - but that's on me really - if it mattered to me I should have asked which version of his pictures was he rocking at the moment.   I just "assumed" the pictures with the later dates were his latest look.  The sex was - good - not mind blowing but solid... and he seems like a very sweet guy... a little shy - English is a little bit of a struggle I think as well.  

Hello forum friends... I am laughing at myself.  For a long time I had my eye on https://app.rent.men/HairyXLmssgs ... read some "meh" reviews on here - and two of his RM reviews were also 'meh"... - (but good reviews too on RM).   But I should ALWAYS TRUST THE FORUM.
Was supposed to meet up with one provider the other night - last minute schedule change and he couldn't meet - I was so horny LOL - I went back to "HairyXLmssgs" - and it was indeed - a mixed bag.  PM for details.
Upshot - super nice guy - very sweet - but  - when you go to his link - if you look at the dates his pictures were uploaded - his "newer" pictures are more fit and muscular - and the "older pics" are much heavier.  I figured he put on COVID weight but had lost it. 
Well - it's the reverse.  He's much heavier now - which isn't necessarily a bad thing.  If you like super beefy with a belly - he's your guy.  Add another 15 pounds to the picture with the hot pink wall.  And he's not 6' tall. 
Just a reminder to myself - when the forum says "meh" - it's probably a meh.
Very sweet guy though... So if - big belly very beefy guys are for you - go for it. 
 

It was one of those situations where - you wonder whether you should say something - but - he was such a nice guy... In the end, I would not have hired him if I had known his current body status (just on my preferences - nothing to do with body shaming) - but - he had a good attitude - and - sexy foreskin lol.  But yeah - lesson learned. 

It was one of those situations where - you wonder whether you should say something - but - he was such a nice guy... In the end, I would not have hired him if I had known his current body status (just on my preferences - nothing to do with body shaming) - but - he had a good attitude - and - sexy foreskin lol.  But yeah - lesson learned. 

Nope!  I think I was a bit disappointed in his appearance - but that's on me really - if it mattered to me I should have asked which version of his pictures was he rocking at the moment.   I just "assumed" the pictures with the later dates were his latest look.  The sex was - good - not mind blowing but solid... and he seems like a very sweet guy... a little shy - English is a little bit of a struggle I think as well.  

Hello forum friends... I am laughing at myself.  For a long time I had my eye on https://app.rent.men/HairyXLmssgs ... read some "meh" reviews on here - and two of his RM reviews were also 'meh"... - (but good reviews too on RM).   But I should ALWAYS TRUST THE FORUM.
Was supposed to meet up with one provider the other night - last minute schedule change and he couldn't meet - I was so horny LOL - I went back to "HairyXLmssgs" - and it was indeed - a mixed bag.  PM for details.
Upshot - super nice guy - very sweet - but  - when you go to his link - if you look at the dates his pictures were uploaded - his "newer" pictures are more fit and muscular - and the "older pics" are much heavier.  I figured he put on COVID weight but had lost it. 
Well - it's the reverse.  He's much heavier now - which isn't necessarily a bad thing.  If you like super beefy with a belly - he's your guy.  Add another 15 pounds to the picture with the hot pink wall.  And he's not 6' tall. 
Just a reminder to myself - when the forum says "meh" - it's probably a meh.
Very sweet guy though... So if - big belly very beefy guys are for you - go for it. 
 

So were you still horny when you left?

Hello forum friends... I am laughing at myself.  For a long time I had my eye on https://app.rent.men/HairyXLmssgs ... read some "meh" reviews on here - and two of his RM reviews were also 'meh"... - (but good reviews too on RM).   But I should ALWAYS TRUST THE FORUM.
Was supposed to meet up with one provider the other night - last minute schedule change and he couldn't meet - I was so horny LOL - I went back to "HairyXLmssgs" - and it was indeed - a mixed bag.  PM for details.
Upshot - super nice guy - very sweet - but  - when you go to his link - if you look at the dates his pictures were uploaded - his "newer" pictures are more fit and muscular - and the "older pics" are much heavier.  I figured he put on COVID weight but had lost it. 
Well - it's the reverse.  He's much heavier now - which isn't necessarily a bad thing.  If you like super beefy with a belly - he's your guy.  Add another 15 pounds to the picture with the hot pink wall.  And he's not 6' tall. 
Just a reminder to myself - when the forum says "meh" - it's probably a meh.
Very sweet guy though... So if - big belly very beefy guys are for you - go for it. 
 

Text comments in RM revews indicate he's used the names Rick and Diego before, so you might want to search for those as well as ask yourself why the multiple name changes.

He is Bulgarian I beleive and regularly used to come to London to escort, I think a few UK members have met him.

Hey gents... hate to be a pain but I have been searching the threads on this guy and a lot of the links have aged out.  Anyone with recent experience with this guy?  Gym fit bottom here - love foreskin - BFE - heading to NYC.  I don't get to hire as much as I'd like so I really rely on the forum in helping me find great providers.  You guys are the best.
 
https://app.rent.men/BBasar

Interesting update.  He reached out and apologized and said he would be happy to take half the fee LOL.  He said he has had a lot of cancellations lately with COVID and Monkeypox and he has been financially stressed.
Still a really unpleasant experience - and I won't hire him again (obviously) - but - still - I was glad he apologized and I paid him the half fee.  
Thanks for validating how I handled it - I honestly have never had this happen before and wasn't sure if I violated some provider/client etiquette!  
Love the forum... 

Had a session with him recently.  Could not have been better from my perspective.
Very professional - scheduling was easy.  He is a little shy at first - but warms up quickly.  He is clear about the variety of massage he offers and the price. His massage skills are incredible... even without the erotic part I would have loved the massage.
That being said, the erotic part was mind blowing.   His body is insane.  Enjoy!  One of the best m4m massages I have ever had. 
 

It was an an hour session.  Booked two weeks ago.  I have been traveling - was at a work event - and a few people tested positive for COVID.  I felt mostly fine - a little congested which I thought might be allergies... tested anyway - and was positive.  I felt terrible since I had engaged the provider and booked the session.  In my professional life, I hate people who waste my time - so I thought I would let him know the situation and offer half the fee, not knowing really what the protocol was.  He didn't make a special trip to my city... he was coming anyway... 
His reaction was - aggressive and angry... which made me question what the protocol is when you cancel... but I am glad to hear on the boards that my offer was actually generous with a 30 hour cancellation notice.  I am actually glad he wrote back to apologize - and listen - it's been a tough couple of years for all of us - providers probably in particular.  Still - I will never engage him again.

Interesting update.  He reached out and apologized and said he would be happy to take half the fee LOL.  He said he has had a lot of cancellations lately with COVID and Monkeypox and he has been financially stressed.
Still a really unpleasant experience - and I won't hire him again (obviously) - but - still - I was glad he apologized and I paid him the half fee.  
Thanks for validating how I handled it - I honestly have never had this happen before and wasn't sure if I violated some provider/client etiquette!  
Love the forum... 

Definitely would not book again.  I appreciated the apology... but - as the late great Maya Angelou said "When someone tells you who they are - believe them!"  So - now we know.

Hmmm... as you can see there were quite a few responses to the post - and DM's as well - which is new territory for me.  I saw that you had taken the time to write - which I appreciated - and thought I was being rude by not answering your original question.  That is "why I am responding to your post now"... with the information you asked.  Does that answer your question?

Hey buddy... it was an hour session.  The provider wasn't making any special travel arrangements - it was pretty straightforward.  I actually have never been the one to cancel in the past - and his reaction made me wonder if I mishandled it.  And I was glad to see from most of the community here that it was a "him issue" - not a "me issue" lol. 

30 hours notice? Unless he was expecting to travel I wouldn’t have offered anything but a future rain check.
Ditch the jerk and find someone new and better

I think your response was appropriate.  I actually think the provider should of thanked you as there are some who would have went ahead with the appointment especially if they were asymptomatic.   Sounds like he lost a great potential client.  Hope you are feeling better.