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Flakes happen to us on every single trip we make. Just this week we had a guy from Prague begin to arrange a meeting. He got right to the end where he books our flights, then complete silence. There is a large group of "clients" who will never become clients. But, we won't know that until they actually flake. Therefore, we take precautions to protect our investment of time and energy. First, we never get into a photo/video sharing frenzy. If they want that kind of interaction, we ask for payment. We've found the constant interaction with unending exchanges just prolongs the inevitable. It also is a way to weed out the fakers. Second, before we go anywhere at all, we request a deposit of at least 20%. Sometimes the flights themselves count as commitment and we will let that suffice. However, when a client isn't willing to put money into it up front, 99% of the time they will go silent.

 

Therefore, it is up to us as providers to count flakes as a business loss and move on when it happens. We know they exist and it is our fault if we get stuck. Outing them publicly would only serve to damage our credibility and make us seem vindictive. Neither of which is good for business.

 

TylerandAce,

 

You make excellent points. Thanks for your perspective. There are moments when I want to reach out to talk to other colleagues because they understand what it's like. Your experience and professionalism shine in your remarks.

 

Accepting the loss and inevitability of flaky persons posing to offer work is a bitter pill. I'll swallow it. That's the opportunity cost for the moments I get to swallow with greater pleasure. (Sorry for not writing that more interestingly as a pun. The mood of the moment dominates.)

 

I believe that the pictures we're taking off of the Internet and the phone number seems to be a Google Voice number. Even still, publicly outing somebody in that way was wrong of me. I am sorry for doing that. Not only does it cast a shadow on professional credibility, it also reeks of bullying and vindictiveness. Again, I'm sorry.

 

If there's any way to connect with you guys for a more for personal exchange, please let me know how to do so.

 

Thanks again.

 

Stay tuned...

 

Max

 

 

 

 

 

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Goodness gentlemen!

 

I do not expect any of you will ever understand fully what was involved in the case you're undoubtedly referring to here, but I'll begin by inviting any of you to call me. You can reach me through my ad. I welcome your comments. I believe that you'll discover I'm not the villain so easily imagined by the exchange here.

 

To the contrary, those who know me best, those who continue to authentically arrange time to meet me for equally authentic experiences, would paint an entirely different image.

 

The said individual who contacted me caused me to lose a considerable amount of time and money. He was able to do this by contacting me weeks in advance, being dishonest, and winning my trust. Like several others who've done this before, he waited until only minutes before the arranged meeting and then ceased all communication. Apparently, some individuals who do this enjoy the sense of exhilaration experienced by setting up a meeting time and place. One guy admitted that he used the excitement to masturbate; look him up on the Bad Boy Report (I believe he went by 'Tim in Cincinnati). He was especially proficient in the nuances of prevarication

 

Typically, we simply absorb the loss and chalk it off to experience. It isn't glamorous. Even worse are the experiences of my fellow colleagues who are physically mistreated, some after driving hours to arranged meeting places and never compensated. I'm not appealing to any sense of pity, simply your understanding.

 

I can count the number of times I've spoken up about my experiences with flakers on two fingers. This is one of them.

 

For those of you who think it's to be expected and that we should just accept it, I ask you to reflect a moment. What might you suggest in this case? I'm willing to listen, apply your advice, and let you know how it works.

 

I invite those of you still reading to check out the reviews guys have written after meeting me. Some of them have met me multiple times and still have plans to do so in the future.

 

Lastly, check out the track record of professionalism that I've established with the various directors and production companies that I've worked with for over four years. Talk to the performers and production assistants that can vouch for me in this regard. And if you are still not convinced, post a comment on Twitter asking fans about the personal correspondence I've had with them over the years. I'm willing to stand up to the test.

 

In the meantime, I'm currently trekking through the Northeast and available.

 

XXXOXXO,

Max

 

P.S. Have any of you heard about the wicked popcorn flavored protein shakes that I make. Ask Mike Gaite about them.

Sorry, but Revenge Tweeting is immature and, in this case, immoral. You should be ashamed, even though the perp who stiffed you probably isn’t.

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I’m sure that of the multitude of options, this was nearly at the bottom of the list. I’m sure it afforded some momentary satisfaction, but it does not paint you in a good light, no matter how inconvenienced you were.

 

Post to badboy report or similar and move the fuck along - now you’re in company with Austin wolf and Brodie Sinclair...

 

 

Oliver,

 

Your points are very well taken. I agree with you about moving along.

 

That said, I must respectfully push back on the comparison to Brodie Sinclair. He was prepaid, given round trip tickets to Chicago, and was booked in a prepaid room at the Four Seasons. One could argue that he was trying to extort his client for political reasons because of a housing situation. That is a very different scenario.

 

I do appreciate your perspective about moving on and understand that what I did was not right. I'm sorry and will do what I can to make amends.

 

Again, thanks for your thoughts here.

 

-Max

 

 

 

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Max

Let me say first-off that I believe your account of the circumstances that you experienced with the problematic potential client & I am also willing to give you the benefit of the doubt such that you may at heart be a good person. I appreciate the fact that you posted a reply here & I also believe that there are always 2 sides to a story. In addition I understand your frustration with the circumstances you claim of the interaction with this client who flaked. That understanding is due to the fact that I have been on the receiving end of a provider who flaked on me at the last second as well as other providers who variously lied in a variety of ways or did not provide the services requested &/or promised. The bottom line is that frustration can go both ways.

That being said, what you did in not only providing a phone number(s) on your twitter account but also photos of a "flaky" client is nevertheless completely unacceptable & crosses the line of expected conduct. Deal with it on the "Bad Boys" site which you mentioned and is basically an industry insider's site & not via twitter, a method you used which has far greater public exposure.

As seen in the responses here, what you did is viewed very unfavorably by the membership here at the Daddy's site. It serves to make potential clients more wary of any involvement with a provider.

You must consider that the photos you loaded on twitter may not even actually be of the person with whom you had the negative interaction.

Please be aware Max that in creating this thread I am not meaning to single you out given that there are other providers who have outed client information before with one of them actually named elsewhere in the responses on this thread Bear in mind that that other provider has a terrible reputation here in this forum for that & other behaviors; a reputation that I would hate to see be assigned to you.

Be well Max

 

Steed,

 

I agree with you. It's not a great day, but your words ring with truth; I will use the guidance they parlay. Thank you.

 

I'm reflecting on this deeply.

 

I will get back to you shortly...

 

Again, I appreciate your response.

 

-Max

 

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Sorry, but Revenge Tweeting is immature and, in this case, immoral. You should be ashamed, even though the perp who stiffed you probably isn’t.

 

Kenny,

You're correct. I made a very big mistake. Stay tuned. I'm mustering up for a response.

Thanks for the feedback.

-Max

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Max,

Thank you for your thoughtful comments and public apology. I appreciate your efforts to take ownership of our actions in front of the forum and not shy away.

 

That said, your actions shaken me to my core. In the dozens of encounters I’ve had with escorts, many have been extraordinary, a few bad, and a great number in between. I know there is a risk that I may pay for an experience I don’t enjoy. I research escorts looking for true professionals that have great reviews. Because I use this approach, I’ve NEVER really feared for my personal security until NOW (I know that sounds naive).

 

It sounds like you are taking a valuable lesson from all of this but it cannot be stated enough that the rules of discretion must be FIRST and foremost in every encounter. From a client perspective, I will probably be more gun shy now in hiring new escorts.

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Goodness gentlemen!

 

I do not expect any of you will ever understand fully what was involved in the case you're undoubtedly referring to here, but I'll begin by inviting any of you to call me. You can reach me through my ad. I welcome your comments. I believe that you'll discover I'm not the villain so easily imagined by the exchange here.

 

To the contrary, those who know me best, those who continue to authentically arrange time to meet me for equally authentic experiences, would paint an entirely different image.

 

The said individual who contacted me caused me to lose a considerable amount of time and money. He was able to do this by contacting me weeks in advance, being dishonest, and winning my trust. Like several others who've done this before, he waited until only minutes before the arranged meeting and then ceased all communication. Apparently, some individuals who do this enjoy the sense of exhilaration experienced by setting up a meeting time and place. One guy admitted that he used the excitement to masturbate; look him up on the Bad Boy Report (I believe he went by 'Tim in Cincinnati). He was especially proficient in the nuances of prevarication

 

Typically, we simply absorb the loss and chalk it off to experience. It isn't glamorous. Even worse are the experiences of my fellow colleagues who are physically mistreated, some after driving hours to arranged meeting places and never compensated. I'm not appealing to any sense of pity, simply your understanding.

 

I can count the number of times I've spoken up about my experiences with flakers on two fingers. This is one of them.

 

For those of you who think it's to be expected and that we should just accept it, I ask you to reflect a moment. What might you suggest in this case? I'm willing to listen, apply your advice, and let you know how it works.

 

I invite those of you still reading to check out the reviews guys have written after meeting me. Some of them have met me multiple times and still have plans to do so in the future.

 

Lastly, check out the track record of professionalism that I've established with the various directors and production companies that I've worked with for over four years. Talk to the performers and production assistants that can vouch for me in this regard. And if you are still not convinced, post a comment on Twitter asking fans about the personal correspondence I've had with them over the years. I'm willing to stand up to the test.

 

In the meantime, I'm currently trekking through the Northeast and available.

 

XXXOXXO,

Max

 

P.S. Have any of you heard about the wicked popcorn flavored protein shakes that I make. Ask Mike Gaite about them.

As someone screwed you over some escort or even someone pretending to be an escort could publish a sent picture or phone number to hurt someone. As someone took you for granted for fun, I am sure that there are others who would also hurt clients for fun or for malicious reasons as well. Thus, the basis of my comment that I would never share a photo or "real" phone with a provider when initiating a meeting. It is just not worth the risk. It is a shame that someone would waste a providers time on doing hurtful acts.

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Max, as you are well aware by now your actions were thoughtless and careless. However, none of us are perfect and we all have our weak moments, and this was yours. But the way you've handled the situation and yourself in the aftermath is something to be really proud of, and I commend you for it. It takes a big macho man with a big heart to handle a situation like this one like you did. Good for you Sir!

 

And as a side note, flakes are on both sides of the equation. I think both escorts and clients get their fair share. It's unfortunate but it just comes with the territory.

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I never thought that this kind of breach would happen by an established and well regarded escort/porn star. I give u tons of credit Max for coming here and admitting your grievous error. That takes balls. I respect that. However. It gives one pause when hiring escorts that we have never met. I will never send pics of myself that's for sure.

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Max, as you are well aware by now your actions were thoughtless and careless. However, none of us are perfect and we all have our weak moments, and this was yours. But the way you've handled the situation and yourself in the aftermath is something to be really proud of, and I commend you for it. It takes a big macho man with a big heart to handle a situation like this one like you did. Good for you Sir!

 

And as a side note, flakes are on both sides of the equation. I think both escorts and clients get their fair share. It's unfortunate but it just comes with the territory.

 

Thank you. I appreciate your kind words. A person who isn't able to be honest with himself is generally incapable of learning. I never want to be that kind of person.

 

Here's how I see it: If one person was to call me a horse, I could say "Fuck you!" If two people were to call me a horse, I could say "Fuck you." But if three people called me a horse, I would have get a saddle. In other words, it was time for me to pony up and get a saddle.

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After that lovely apology... I was surprised to see that there is still a name and phone number listed on twitter (here).

 

Golem,

That's a scam, similar to numerous Nigerian scams that I've gotten before, and not the same person this thread is about. That number and post will remain, as others should be aware of it. If you wish, I can post the message he sent me. It is a completely different scenario. Notice that there is no picture.

 

As far as "lovely" goes... I was not aiming for 'lovely':). But I'll take it provided you don't think it was Crate & Barrel or Pottery Barn 'lovely'. In that case, I have a boner to pick with you.

 

Here it is (verbatim):

 

+14156499870 - How are you doing today? My name is [potential client name removed by me] and i came across your ad on RentMen, i will like to be with you for a weekend. Please get back to me on my number 4156499870 with your rates and lets go from there. I await to hear back from you.Thank you

 

+14156499870 - Good prize, not bad. i will like to spend the 2nd and 3rd of June with you in MIAMI as i have a business appointment through the weekend.I will also like to make and upfront payment which will be $500 to secure my spot and also your flight will be covered. You will be with me for the whole time i will be spending in MIAMI and i assure you that you will enjoy your stay throughout with me. I should be there for maximum of two day.are you interested babe?

 

+14156499870 - Okay, cool babe…you gonna provide me with your full name, address, city and zip code so that my account manager will issue and mail out a certified check to you for your upfront payment, fl

 

+14156499870 - ight ticket and hotel reservation so you gonna know that i am serious about this

 

+14156499870 - I will prepare the payment along with the flight fees by next week, so once you receive the payment, deduct your $500 upfront payment and you will send the rest to the agent? for your flight and hotel bookings.I have an agent who handles my flight and hotel issues so he will be booking your flight and your hotel room.I will mail the check out via a courier service and once its mailed out, i will let you know.I am so excited to meet you

 

(End of text messages)

 

This one was fairly obvious for reasons I'm sure you can discern. There have been others though who were incredibly clever, systematic, and persistent.

 

Would you agree the post should stay? Do you think I should post the texts?

 

 

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I just posted a short clip on Twitter...

It speaks for itself.

Again, if any of you have any feedback for me, I'm all ears.

Sweetie, you're assuming we all follow you on Twitter. :p

Whether due to genuine contrition or a desire to avoid loss of business, your apology seems legit. Nice to see men owning their mistakes.

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Let's not conflate a momentary need for remedial instruction in anger management with a "bad " person.

 

I, for one, while not exactly sympathy, do sympathize.

Naked,

You had me at conflate, and have me thinking about the Rolling Stones song.

”I rode a tank

Held a general's rank

When the blitzkrieg raged

And the bodies stank...

Let me please introduce myself

I'm a man of wealth and taste

And I laid traps for troubadours

Who get killed before they reached Bombay

(Woo woo, who who)"

I digress.

But seriously, who wouldn't get steamed that they've added 'magical unicorns' to Lucky Charms? It's just wrong and somebody has to protest!

Damn, now I'm conflating. Pass the Tums please.

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