Guys who can't perform

[Golem]

One angle that hasn't been mentioned: if it is clear that this is a problem 10, 15, or 30 minutes into a session, it is incumbent on the client to speak up at that point if it is taking away the value of the session for them.

 

Up until then, it is basically a question of the provider matching their description. But once the client sees it and goes along with it anyway, without speaking up, the ball has been in their court. Paying less at that point would mean changing the agreement without informing the other party or getting their agreement -- which is obviously not fair.

[+ goosh69]

I respectfully disagree. These guys aren't machines. All kinds of things can haywire an erection even with ED drugs. Chemistry and attitude can play a big role on how successful a session goes and lets face it. Some people are just erection killers.

 

What the original poster warned of. I am SURE it was not HIS fault and that he is NOT an “erection killer.” Nice way to blame him though.

[caliguy]

What the original poster warned of. I am SURE it was not HIS fault and that he is NOT an “erection killer.” Nice way to blame him though.

Yes and if I was just responding to the OP that would make sense. Jeez. Lighten up.

[+ Snbrd]

Another factor that can inhibit performance is the effects of PNP. Be wary of cliques of younger guys that travel together. If they party together and/or with clients all night they're worn out the next day.

[caliguy]

Another factor that can inhibit performance is the effects of PNP. Be wary of cliques of younger guys that travel together. If they party together and/or with clients all night they're worn out the next day.

They sure got endurance though. Albeit without an erection.

[tenderloin]

Of course, it is not just about getting hard. I have had several occasions where guys have failed to cum after I explicitly said that it was important to me. Of course, it is a two-edged sword, because I have also had guys say that once they cum, they can't be fucked or fuck. I have only once withheld a part of a fee for non-performance, and it was an ugly scene. But it is frustrating how many times, as soon as I blow my load, some guy starts pulling on his shorts and making the motions. I find myself getting more and more explicit regarding my expectations as a result.

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[tradehunter]

I hired a guy in 2010 when he was only 24. He got really hard, but didn’t cum and wanted to leave. I hired him again in 2013. Not easy to get him hard. He did reach orgasm and said he cummed, but I didn’t feel any cum in my mouth. Then I hired him again in 2016, he could not get hard. Then last year I hired him and his gf and watched them fuck. His cock was semi hard fucking his gf. He did cum inside her, cock still semi hard like those we sometimes see in porn movies. Kinda disappointed. Really handsome dude. But i am disappointed at his cock. Not sure why. Makes me think he can’t get truly hard after 25 years old.

 

My motto is if they cant get hard thats on them if they cant cum thats on you

[tenderloin]

"My motto is if they cant get hard thats on them if they cant cum thats on you "

 

It's not "can't", it's "won't" - they are saving themselves up to do another round.

[nsguy45]

How many escorts pop a Viagra or Cialis prior to meeting a client, especially if he's aware the client is elderly, obese or unattractive?

[Walker1]

I have had escorts who came 3 times and escorts who never got it hard. It depends -I think chemistry is important. I like interaction and not me doing all the work.

[DMICS]

This is a very interesting thread/topic. One I've always wanted to touch on but I remember seeing the same thing asked in a previous thread and it turned into a mini mob coming down on the client who felt like he shouldn't pay because he did not get what was agreed upon.

 

I'm kind of in this situation currently with an escort I've wanted to hire forever. After doing a 411 on here I received some intel from 2 different members via PM stating that the escort in question couldn't stay hard or finish. This, despite his RM feedback being flawless, though recently someone left negative feedback and a day later it was removed (I still have the screenshots). @TheOtherGuy it sounds like you and I are into the same thing so an escort being able to stay erect and finish are very important

 

With that being said....

 

I respectfully disagree. These guys aren't machines. All kinds of things can haywire an erection even with ED drugs. Chemistry and attitude can play a big role on how successful a session goes and lets face it. Some people are just erection killers.

 

This. They're not robots/machines so its definitely tough on their end to do that regularly, for an hour or more.

 

 

I think a lot of it depends on how well you know the escort. One escort I know has been a regular call for over a year. We have developed a friendhip as well as a business relationship. On two occasions now neither of us has cum. But the time spent was so intimate and intellectually stimulating that I feel like I got my money's worth.

 

My two regular hires have been great, but each have provided 1 session where they couldn't either stay hard or finish. But the overall experience was good, and in both cases I was offered a reduced rate by 1 and a free session by the other.

 

A true "professional" can keep an erection when asked. One to two experiences with not being able to top with his client (one would think) would instruct any real professional to be prepared next time and get Viagra (or Cialis or Levitra) and have handy when necessary. Age, body size, looks of the client has nothing to do with giving an escort a pass on maintaining an erection. If the escort has difficulty with a consistent erection, they shouldn't be in the business of prostitution (or at least not advertising their penis size or that they top).

 

And this is how I feel. Especially if during our conversations leading up to a session you say you can deliver. Especially after I've expressed my concerns, with an understanding from the escort's perspective.

 

One angle that hasn't been mentioned: if it is clear that this is a problem 10, 15, or 30 minutes into a session, it is incumbent on the client to speak up at that point if it is taking away the value of the session for them.

 

Up until then, it is basically a question of the provider matching their description. But once the client sees it and goes along with it anyway, without speaking up, the ball has been in their court. Paying less at that point would mean changing the agreement without informing the other party or getting their agreement -- which is obviously not fair.

 

Pretty much. Agreed 100%. If within 15 minutes things don't seem right, I would stop and speak up.

 

Another factor that can inhibit performance is the effects of PNP. Be wary of cliques of younger guys that travel together. If they party together and/or with clients all night they're worn out the next day.

 

This too, and I try to avoid those. Going back to my one of my regulars "failing"....I knew something was "off" and had a feeling it was due to him playing with snow. I brought it up after the session, he apologized and he offered the next session at a reduced rate.

 

They sure got endurance though. Albeit without an erection.

 

Eventually I'll make a thread about this, because I want to educate myself on that part of the hook up culture. I'm confused and I'm encountering more and more guys that are into that stuff SMH.

 

If I didn't know the guy or if the hire was simply for a particular sexual act and the escort broke his promise of performance, there is good reason to reduce payment. I know it is advertised that money is for time spent only but if a new escort takes that position he should expect no return visits.

 

Thats how I feel.

 

I guess in the end and moving forward, if I book a session and early on I'm not getting what we agreed upon I'm going to stop and speak up. I work hard, I'm not rich and just want a good experience from a "professional."

 

Thanks again @TheOtherGuy for this thread.

[muscmtl]

sadder when "performs" means bottom, dont care if the escort gets hard or not, but can't perform as a bottom... and it happens

[Rudynate]

I've only had one time when an escort couldn't get it up. I enjoyed it anyway so it was not a problem. I don't care if a guy comes or not. I'm there to be naked in bed with an amazing guy and to play around for 2 or 3 hours. Cumming is optional with me.

[img2ciya]

sadder when "performs" means bottom, dont care if the escort gets hard or not, but can't perform as a bottom... and it happens

Agreed. I remember splurging once on a guy - said he was a bottom. I hired him for three hours and paid way more than I normally would have (well, for the 3 hours, the price wasn't outrageous, but still...) And I paid upfront. Yeah, lesson learned all around after this guy! I wanted a long, relaxing session. We settled in, had some fun and then we started getting more "serious" about halfway through our time and he said he didn't want to bottom. I was floored. Really soured the mood, of course. I think that's right around the time I started using daddysreview, including posting my first review.

[muscmtl]

Agreed. I remember splurging once on a guy - said he was a bottom. I hired him for three hours and paid way more than I normally would have (well, for the 3 hours, the price wasn't outrageous, but still...) And I paid upfront. Yeah, lesson learned all around after this guy! I wanted a long, relaxing session. We settled in, had some fun and then we started getting more "serious" about halfway through our time and he said he didn't want to bottom. I was floored. Really soured the mood, of course. I think that's right around the time I started using daddysreview, including posting my first review.

 

you should have called the police and reported him this is a crime

[img2ciya]

you should have called the police and reported him this is a crime

lol I know. He actually replied to my review on DR. He apologized and wanted me to give him another try. Sorry but it was too late. He knew I was disappointed (to say the least) that night, but he was still happy to take my money.

[caliguy]

I've only had one time when an escort couldn't get it up. I enjoyed it anyway so it was not a problem. I don't care if a guy comes or not. I'm there to be naked in bed with an amazing guy and to play around for 2 or 3 hours. Cumming is optional with me.

Guys like you usually have the best time and usually get what you want anyways. It's the ones that put the pressure on them and sit there with their arms crossed and pout if things don't go exactly to their idea of perfection that end up predictably disappointed.

Edited May 21, 2018 by caliguy

[sexymonk]

Another factor that can inhibit performance is the effects of PNP. Be wary of cliques of younger guys that travel together. If they party together and/or with clients all night they're worn out the next day.

Also I think most of the drugs that these guys use in pnp or otherwise has impact on their erection or response to stimuli to their organs! That is why I have fixed one whom I know very well from years! I need not see around!

[Guest TheOtherGuy]

This is awesome! Thanks for all the feedback and discussion. This really helps. My experiences with hiring overall have been positive. Just a few encounters that left me feeling a bit slighted. I didn’t take it personally but those cases sure were disappointing. Hopefully I’ll never have to deal with this situation again but if I do, I’m armed with some practical advice now.

[caliguy]

Also I think most of the drugs that these guys use in pnp or otherwise has impact on their erection or response to stimuli to their organs! That is why I have fixed one whom I know very well from years! I need not see around!

Just to be clear it's just the erection. Their organs are stimulated very well. To a drug user it's all about the stimulation.

[tenderloin]

Guys like you usually have the best time and usually get what you want anyways. It's the ones that put the pressure on them and sit there with their arms crossed and pout if things don't go exactly to their idea of perfection that end up predictably disappointed.

 

That sounds a wee bit catty. Yes, I would be "predictably disappointed" (and have been from time to time) if I hired a sex worker to perform the services that he advertised he was able and willing to perform ("ten inches of rock-hard cock!" "multiple cummer!" "gallons of cum"), spent time before-hand communicating to him what was important to me and setting expectations, only to have him not deliver but still expect all of his pricey fee.

 

Why do so many people on this forum feel like it is ok to be taken advantage of by hucksters? We need to praise the good but also name and shame the bad - that's the beauty of this site. I am very glad that I submitted a negative review of a dishonest RM 'scort that hasn't even been published yet, but apparently he was contacted for a response and immediately took down his RM ad. If a few guys are not taken advantage of as a result, I am happy.

[Rudynate]

Guys like you usually have the best time and usually get what you want anyways. It's the ones that put the pressure on them and sit there with their arms crossed and pout if things don't go exactly to their idea of perfection that end up predictably disappointed.

 

It's true. I usually leave an appointment with an escort glowing, I feel so good - all without getting off.

[Guest TheOtherGuy]

Guys like you usually have the best time and usually get what you want anyways. It's the ones that put the pressure on them and sit there with their arms crossed and pout if things don't go exactly to their idea of perfection that end up predictably disappointed.

Ummmmm. Not exactly, I was disappointed, but not because I sat there with my arms crossed tapping my foot waiting for them to get off! LOL! I don't know ANYONE who could perform under those circumstances. I was disappointed because promises were made and not kept.

[Rudynate]

That sounds a wee bit catty. Yes, I would be "predictably disappointed" (and have been from time to time) if I hired a sex worker to perform the services that he advertised he was able and willing to perform ("ten inches of rock-hard cock!" "multiple cummer!" "gallons of cum"), spent time before-hand communicating to him what was important to me and setting expectations, only to have him not deliver but still expect all of his pricey fee.

 

Why do so many people on this forum feel like it is ok to be taken advantage of by hucksters? We need to praise the good but also name and shame the bad - that's the beauty of this site. I am very glad that I submitted a negative review of a dishonest RM 'scort that hasn't even been published yet, but apparently he was contacted for a response and immediately took down his RM ad. If a few guys are not taken advantage of as a result, I am happy.

 

Maybe I'm not very discriminating or demanding and I'm therefore not "getting my money's worth." But I sure have had some very nice times in the process of not getting my money's worth. I just like good times with enchanting men.