Experiences With Business Cards?

[Mocha]

So with the Internet on the fritz, I've decided to take to business cards. Recently printed my first set from an online retailer. Though I have a sexy pic on the front, I am keeping it very ambiguous and makes no references to money, appointments or sex.

 

Even if the Internet isn't on the fritz, it's crazy how many times I've found myself in engaging conversations with older guys just out and about. Just had one today where the guy started chatting with me, shook my hand twice, but more eager the second time around. Appeared in every way a client. It all makes me feel it's even more important to have something to hand over about myself, to put something into play when it's not so spur of the moment.

 

My only reservations are handing them over to the wrong person. My headline reads "underwear model/relaxation". Wanted to keep it as ambiguous as possible. Even "masseur" could raise legal concerns. However, I don't intend to freely hand it out like fliers. I would only hand it out to people who seem like they "could" be interested in something after they approach me (similar to responding to an ad).

 

However, I wonder if passing around biz cards could equate to the real world version of craigslist..where even if they are game, would it turn into issues with price. Also whether or not they are married, straight, or closeted (all which is not an issue since many of my clients fit those parameters).

 

Regardless, I will try it out. I don't expect to hand out many, but definitely want to keep on hand. Want to expand beyond versus doing everything on the Internet. At the same time, many areas where these "encounters" happen tend to be in suburban or rural areas not near gay districts. So, I have to be careful not handing information over to an extreme conservative.

[Derrick Rigg]

Business cards would be slipped to me when dancing in clubs from customers.

[Mocha]

Makes sense, however I was more referring to escorts and their business cards. I know for awhile rentboy was selling some expensive ones back in the day with their logo on it for the escort to display.

[+ tassojunior]

Nowadays everyone just exchanges cellphone numbers. A site of your own would be better.

[+ oldNbusted]

[Mocha]

Nowadays everyone just exchanges cellphone numbers. A site of your own would be better.

 

I had the website, and can re-open it. But I got tired of trying to keep it updated and felt redundant. And the platform I was using was a bit of work. Plus there’s the getting people to the site. I used to be able to do well with that with backpage and Craig’s, but now that those are off...I can’t see the full point of having a website. With rentmen, you can pretty much put everything out there now anyway. Videos, interviews, reviews etc.

 

Exchanging is numbers is okay at the club or bar when the interest is obvious, but I feel like random out and about meets might need something more ambiguous and less forward. That way it gives them the opportunity to contact me, or not.

[rvwnsd]

An escort I hired quite frequently a few years ago had cards printed. They read "[Name of Escort] Entertainment Services" Quite nice cards, too. I found one while cleaning out some old papers and cracked a smile and detected some rumbling in my underwear.

[+ lookingforfunny]

So with the Internet on the fritz, I've decided to take to business cards. Recently printed my first set from an online retailer. Though I have a sexy pic on the front, I am keeping it very ambiguous and makes no references to money, appointments or sex.

 

Even if the Internet isn't on the fritz, it's crazy how many times I've found myself in engaging conversations with older guys just out and about. Just had one today where the guy started chatting with me, shook my hand twice, but more eager the second time around. Appeared in every way a client. It all makes me feel it's even more important to have something to hand over about myself, to put something into play when it's not so spur of the moment.

 

My only reservations are handing them over to the wrong person. My headline reads "underwear model/relaxation". Wanted to keep it as ambiguous as possible. Even "masseur" could raise legal concerns. However, I don't intend to freely hand it out like fliers. I would only hand it out to people who seem like they "could" be interested in something after they approach me (similar to responding to an ad).

 

However, I wonder if passing around biz cards could equate to the real world version of craigslist..where even if they are game, would it turn into issues with price. Also whether or not they are married, straight, or closeted (all which is not an issue since many of my clients fit those parameters).

 

Regardless, I will try it out. I don't expect to hand out many, but definitely want to keep on hand. Want to expand beyond versus doing everything on the Internet. At the same time, many areas where these "encounters" happen tend to be in suburban or rural areas not near gay districts. So, I have to be careful not handing information over to an extreme conservative.

 

 

 

 

I would think a card with the title "Personal Trainer/Fitness Expert/Physical Therapist" would be more apropos to keeping it tidy.

 

You could even be a Hot Yoga Instructor specializing in singles or couples training for those who are too embarrassed to jump into specialized group classes.

 

Finish it with: we also curate personal fitness plans tailored to improving your overall well being. No pain no gain.

 

*ask about our in-home colonic cleansing therapies with bonus aromatherapy calming treatment to reset your neurons.

 

Or simply go with the flow and get yourself a premium ad on Rentmen and put your hot tools on display. The biggest ad spends for retailers are on Google and Facebook. Businesses are not asking about analog technology. But to your point, a business card is a great tool for the client to think about things. It should led them someplace to investigate further. Perhaps they text you to receive a weblink to a personal portal with a special pin or password personalized and reflective of your boutique and personal service. This will keep the wife or partner from misusing your data out of rage. I personally would not take a business card with a provocative image of a man on it. It is 2018, people are pretty hip. Most of the people we know have hired, so they are not fooled.

 

If I was a hot escort, I would generate a card with the title: life coach. I would invest in a gorgeous leather sofa of the highest quality. Drape it with a comfortable throw and pillow. You can even take a photo home of you riding the ride, like the amusement parks do. Just pick one out on the ipad by the door and it will be sent to you via email or text or printed on site. The cotton candy is complimentary on your way out.

 

So, you have an arsenal of free ideas here. You can keep doing this and keep data mining for ideas or get your ass out there and make some hot videos and take the information you have learned here and be the best provider.

 

For the month of May you will receive a twerk back bonus for your next booking if you had a top notch experience and wrote a review to daddy. Once you get the notification of the posting and verification, setup their bounce back reward.

 

As the economic tide unfolds people have to be smart and savvy. All I read in the forums is about the consistent quality guys and the novice "scamateurs." It seems like the formula is really easy:

 

Have a good hustle:

 

Be nice as fuck

Be a good fuck

Be a good listener

Flattery will get you everywhere

OMG I must have won the jackpot with you daddy. You are just my type.....say that to your clients

Be a slot machine. Make your client want to pull the lever over and over again. Make the lights light up and lucky sevens happen more than not. Kiss passionately.

 

Best of all.......every client wants to be the best client. A little humility works. Tell them about your struggle and let them know how hard you are going to work to exceed their expectations and earn their trust in hopes of a great review or referral.

 

"one man's junk is another man's treasure" How does your junk stack up to the rest of the field?

 

We are tired of tired providers. The ones who WORK get all the work. The best no longer have to advertise and they work less for more. What is your long-term plan?

 

I had a provider tip me once and said, "man, for a moment I forgot who called who." He knows what he is doing and he gets it right back anyway. Most of the legacy gentlemen here will tell you they prefer to have a regular, consistent trustworthy connection. When you clean your room every week mommy or daddy gives you allowance. You make their lives easier.

 

Good luck brother.

[arnie]

Physical Therapist is a licensed health professional. Using any title that requires a license in the state you are in can result in legal action against you which is the last thing you need. Good luck with your career

[Mocha]

Physical Therapist is a licensed health professional. Using any title that requires a license in the state you are in can result in legal action against you which is the last thing you need. Good luck with your career

 

Exactly, hence what I said earlier. I wouldn’t recommend using any title which requires a license, even if I have said license. I’m pretty sure people wouldn’t expect a licensed chiropractor (which I’ve learned in the medical world of things, aren’t always considered a ‘doctor’ doctor despite the requirements) to also provide escort services on the side.

[Mocha]

I would think a card with the title "Personal Trainer/Fitness Expert/Physical Therapist" would be more apropos to keeping it tidy.

 

You could even be a Hot Yoga Instructor specializing in singles or couples training for those who are too embarrassed to jump into specialized group classes.

 

Finish it with: we also curate personal fitness plans tailored to improving your overall well being. No pain no gain.

 

*ask about our in-home colonic cleansing therapies with bonus aromatherapy calming treatment to reset your neurons.

 

Or simply go with the flow and get yourself a premium ad on Rentmen and put your hot tools on display. The biggest ad spends for retailers are on Google and Facebook. Businesses are not asking about analog technology. But to your point, a business card is a great tool for the client to think about things. It should led them someplace to investigate further. Perhaps they text you to receive a weblink to a personal portal with a special pin or password personalized and reflective of your boutique and personal service. This will keep the wife or partner from misusing your data out of rage. I personally would not take a business card with a provocative image of a man on it. It is 2018, people are pretty hip. Most of the people we know have hired, so they are not fooled.

 

If I was a hot escort, I would generate a card with the title: life coach. I would invest in a gorgeous leather sofa of the highest quality. Drape it with a comfortable throw and pillow. You can even take a photo home of you riding the ride, like the amusement parks do. Just pick one out on the ipad by the door and it will be sent to you via email or text or printed on site. The cotton candy is complimentary on your way out.

 

So, you have an arsenal of free ideas here. You can keep doing this and keep data mining for ideas or get your ass out there and make some hot videos and take the information you have learned here and be the best provider.

 

For the month of May you will receive a twerk back bonus for your next booking if you had a top notch experience and wrote a review to daddy. Once you get the notification of the posting and verification, setup their bounce back reward.

 

As the economic tide unfolds people have to be smart and savvy. All I read in the forums is about the consistent quality guys and the novice "scamateurs." It seems like the formula is really easy:

 

Have a good hustle:

 

Be nice as fuck

Be a good fuck

Be a good listener

Flattery will get you everywhere

OMG I must have won the jackpot with you daddy. You are just my type.....say that to your clients

Be a slot machine. Make your client want to pull the lever over and over again. Make the lights light up and lucky sevens happen more than not. Kiss passionately.

 

Best of all.......every client wants to be the best client. A little humility works. Tell them about your struggle and let them know how hard you are going to work to exceed their expectations and earn their trust in hopes of a great review or referral.

 

"one man's junk is another man's treasure" How does your junk stack up to the rest of the field?

 

We are tired of tired providers. The ones who WORK get all the work. The best no longer have to advertise and they work less for more. What is your long-term plan?

 

I had a provider tip me once and said, "man, for a moment I forgot who called who." He knows what he is doing and he gets it right back anyway. Most of the legacy gentlemen here will tell you they prefer to have a regular, consistent trustworthy connection. When you clean your room every week mommy or daddy gives you allowance. You make their lives easier.

 

Good luck brother.

 

Thanks, you make some good points. By the way, I do have a premium rentmen ad...with nearly 20 reviews.

 

However, and not be a downer: There’s some parts I can’t say I agree with. I don’t feel it’s genuine or necessary to shower a client with compliments. Most clients are aware that they are getting someone from a different caliber than they are. I feel saying something like “you’re just my type” may confuse the client to where on future meets, he may wonder why not just start having sex for free (trust me, I’ve had it suggested more than once). Then, they get upset and move on. Not a good thing. You can be nice and cordial, but don’t lead them on either.

 

I recently had to let go of a regular client, because he was getting too into it. Talking about dates and relationships and settling down for a job...basically leave his wife and be with me. I was not into him that way, and I would have felt shitty if I had pretended he was my dream man...only to tell him I’m not looking to be in a relationship with him.

 

Also, the titles sound good...but that’s not what I’m offering. I don’t do yoga, I’m not personal training someone, etc. I don’t want to trick people into thinking I’m doing something else. I want it ambiguous, but I don’t want to lie either. Because if the person ends up accepting the card and calling back, I’m going to have to live up to that. It would seem like trying to flip the script and announce what I’m really intending to do, could create issues.

 

But I’m just speaking generally. The couch pic is a good idea, I am now reconsidering having anything remotely suggestive pictured. But I like I say, I don’t expect to randomly hand them out...I may not even hand them out much at all. May just flash it, see if they are interested and THEN if they want my number, I’ll give it to them.

Edited April 26, 2018 by Mocha

[keefer]

Similar to @rvwnsd, I have cards I've kept forever -- one early '80s (Houston), the second late 90's (London). Both cards are elegant in their simplicity - the earlier one had Roberts' name, the later one Mario's gaydar name. Many many many years later they invoke memories of many encounters.

 

I suspect I fall into the demographic you describe, older guy, potential client, not in gay setting...

 

If, like the cards I kept, your card simply had your name (Mocha). Simple, elegant, no explanation or adornment. If we talked long enough for you to feel comfortable giving me the card, I suspect you'd have dropped enough hints or website names into the conversation and judged my reaction/understanding.

 

I'd certainly remember that the card (Mocha) equated to RentMen (or Backpage, or whatever other sites are in your area or will occur in the future)... and have the means to find you online. And if you felt comfortable enough to give them (or me) your number, there's something quite elegant and intimate about letting the other person write it... ignoring the fact that it gives you plausible deniability ;-).

[Mocha]

Similar to @rvwnsd, I have cards I've kept forever -- one early '80s (Houston), the second late 90's (London). Both cards are elegant in their simplicity - the earlier one had Roberts' name, the later one Mario's gaydar name. Many many many years later they invoke memories of many encounters.

 

Those might be worth some antique status. I have magazines from circa 2002 from New York that had full blown escort ads. Very simple, just a name, title and rates/phone number. I think one guy from the ad is still in business.

 

But like I say, I want to make sure it goes to the right people. And I think there's some places that are pretty good icebreakers. At the same time, I just can't help the fact that I keep getting chatted up in public by guys. And apparently, according to one of my clients, my hooha was hanging out, which prompted one of the customers of HIS store to have a long drawn out conversation with me.

 

At the same time, it can be hard. Sometimes a guy will seem to be giving off vibes, but they end up being straight. Or, they seem straight and in fact are "straight"...and end up calling me.

 

With Craigslist gone, this is really going to "PUSH" people to make connections out in public. Ain't no time like the present to have something to take it from small talk to full blown fucking. With common sense, of course. We don't need to be regressing back to park and bathroom stalls encounters.

Edited April 27, 2018 by Mocha

[rvwnsd]

Those might be worth some antique status. I have magazines from circa 2002 from New York that had full blown escort ads. Very simple, just a name, title and rates/phone number. I think one guy from the ad is still in business.

 

But like I say, I want to make sure it goes to the right people. And I think there's some places that are pretty good icebreakers. At the same time, I just can't help the fact that I keep getting chatted up in public by guys. And apparently, according to one of my clients, my hooha was hanging out, which prompted one of the customers of HIS store to have a long drawn out conversation with me.

 

At the same time, it can be hard. Sometimes a guy will seem to be giving off vibes, but they end up being straight. Or, they seem straight and in fact are "straight"...and end up calling me.

 

With Craigslist gone, this is really going to "PUSH" people to make connections out in public. Ain't no time like the present to have something to take it from small talk to full blown fucking. With common sense, of course.

 

[Mocha]

 

Where'd ya get that from?? Lol

[rvwnsd]

Where'd ya get that from?? Lol

Made it in Microsoft Word! "Mocha" is Copperplate Gothic Bold 72 pt font and the rest is Bangla MN 16 pt (I think). I then took a screen shot so i could post the photo.

 

PS: Your use of "hooha" made me chuckle. That's what I call big meetings and events at work.

[Mocha]

Made it in Microsoft Word! "Mocha" is Copperplate Gothic Bold 72 pt font and the rest is Bangla MN 16 pt (I think). I then took a screen shot so i could post the photo.

 

PS: Your use of "hooha" made me chuckle. That's what I call big meetings and events at work.

 

Lol, well that was described to me by someone else. Let’s just say, I’ll be careful where I wear my favorite fashion joggers going forward. Or not