No response from escort

[MikeBiDude]

Many of these managers or agents have never even met their clients. They're more like a message answering service that provides translation and sets appointments.

If it walks like a duck:

pimp

pimp/

noun

1. 1.
   a man who controls prostitutes and arranges clients for them, taking part of their earnings in return.
   synonyms: procurer, procuress;
    
   

[+ tassojunior]

If it walks like a duck:

pimp

pimp/

noun

1. 1.
   a man who controls prostitutes and arranges clients for them, taking part of their earnings in return.
   synonyms: procurer, procuress;
   

 

"Controls" is the key word there and I doubt many agents do that much more than a normal telephone answering service or secretary. That's all most agents are (with some translation skills).

[MikeBiDude]

"Controls" is the key word there and I doubt many agents do that much more than a normal telephone answering service or secretary. That's all most agents are (with some translation skills).

“...and arranges clients for them” is pretty clear. No one likes the harsh reality, but there it is

[MikeBiDude]

If I was you I would just move on and take my business somewhere else. Maybe his unwillingness to respond saved you from a bad experience.

“Move on...” is always good advice, if only more clients/posters understood

[marylander1940]

“Move on...” is always good advice, if only more clients/posters understood

 

Plenty of fish out there to catch with $ if that's what you meant...

[BlakeBenz]

If it walks like a duck:

pimp

pimp/

noun

1. 1.
   a man who controls prostitutes and arranges clients for them, taking part of their earnings in return.
   synonyms: procurer, procuress;
   

 

I’m sorry, but you can’t take a dictionary definition of a “pimp” and take it for fact. Especially when you have no knowledge on THE GAME. That book was written by a bunch of squares who I’m sure have no game knowledge either. That definition defines an agent, or a manager.. not a pimp at all.

 

Like I previously said I’ve encountered many pimps. One almost costing me my life. I live in Houston where about 7/10 of the strippers and working girls are pimped. These men manipulate, control, physically & mentally abuse these sex workers. There’s no taking “part of” their earnings... these escorts often times don’t even have 100$ to their name while the pimp is holding on to tens of thousands. They have to ask for money for anything. Food, get their nails done, and if they want to go shopping they better work harder!! You’re out working 7 days a week. You don’t have calls? You sit a hotel bar working all night or if you’re in Vegas those girls are out working the casinos 12 hours a day looking for a nice watch to steal and pawn off to impress their P. Pimps are brainwashers. They find you when you’re weak, heartbroken, flat broke and in a sticky situation... they offer you a helping hand and appear as a “friend” to help get you back on your feet and you owe them in return. But when do you stop oweing them? That’s where they get you. YOU DONT! You want to leave? Not with out getting your ass beat before you’re thrown out on the street again with nothing. They get so stuck in these situations its pretty much easier for them to believe all the lies and stay. I mean, he takes care of the bills and they get some nice designer things here and there.. so it’s all good right? These men are master manipulators and 100% pure evil. Pimps do no real work, and never have done real work.. they just finesse hoes out of their money just like the hoes finesse tricks out of money.

 

This was response was not only completely ignorant, but triggering as well. You don’t know anything about pimps so do not speak on it. I’ve seen more than I’m sure many people on this thread. Having your friends beaten unconscious until they’re bleeding out of their ears (they had a concussion and were still forced to work the next day). Having your friends in the emergency room because they were beaten so bad that their jaw was broken. Having friends ask to come over to hide from their pimp because he’s going crazy and they’re scared, only to go back after? Having to lend friends money to get back on their after literally running away from their pimps and having no money to survive. Trying to unbrainwash your friends that you love and care about to think for themselves, see their value as a person, and believe that they can do the same things and make the same money without him.. Only to have these pimps work just as hard at convincing them I don’t know what I’m talking about. EVENTUALLY having to leave the people you love and care about behind because at this point it’s so draining you can only worry about saving yourself. Oh and let’s not forget the time one went completely psycho while I was in the back seat of his car, driving recklessly over 100 screaming at us and threatening to crash and kill us all as we all cried and begged for our lives... I’m sure none of you REALLY know what a pimp is.

[+ tassojunior]

“...and arranges clients for them” is pretty clear. No one likes the harsh reality, but there it is

 

Harsh reality is the definition says "Controls and", not "Controls or" as you seem to have misread.

 

A telephone appointment scheduling service is no more of a pimp than a Panasonic answering machine.

[MikeyGMin]

I’m sure none of you REALLY know what a pimp is.

I happen to agree with you that there is a space in this industry for managers who are very much not pimps. They take on the work of answering all the many messages, screening clients and particularly provide benefit if there are language issues. I also agree that control is the key distinguishing factor -- not the arranging of the clients.

 

However, you take it too far in proclaiming that none of us could really know what a pimp is. That's just silly. You don't have to be a drug addict to know what a drug dealer is. You don't have to have been molested to know what a pedophile is.

[BlakeBenz]

I happen to agree with you that there is a space in this industry for managers who are very much not pimps. They take on the work of answering all the many messages, screening clients and particularly provide benefit if there are language issues. I also agree that control is the key distinguishing factor -- not the arranging of the clients.

 

However, you take it too far in proclaiming that none of us could really know what a pimp is. That's just silly. You don't have to be a drug addict to know what a drug dealer is. You don't have to have been molested to know what a pedophile is.

 

 

Thank you and allow me to make my point a little more clear. You’re absolutely right, of course you can know what a pimp is without first hand experience.

 

You don’t need to be a drug addict to know what a drug dealer is, but if you are you will have deeper and further insight of how to acquire drugs, sell drugs, and you will know many of the hidden risks and secrets involved in that walk of life and often times more than someone who is sober... because you experienced it first hand.

 

You don’t need to have been molested to know what a pedophile is, but if if you were you most likely have deeper understanding of what may have gone on in the mind of the person who assaulted you (assuming there was a prior platonic relationship) and how that plus other factors may have played a role in the situation.

 

So you’re right, you don’t have to have the experience or knowledge to know what a pimp is..... but do you really know? There is A LOT you wouldn’t know without experiencing it up close and personal. That’s what my intentions were with that statement. I’ve seen several uneducated assumptions on what a pimp is on this thread, and I guess to someone who knows how traumatic that lifestyle really is it does bother me that people are quick to assume with little to no education on the subject rather than asking questions.

[+ GregM]

Pimp?!? Lmao... let’s not be so naive here. There is a HUGE difference between a pimp and a manager/agent. A pimp isn’t taking 10-20% of your earnings.. they’re taking 100%. You are forced to work and if you don’t you have the shit beaten out of you. Pimps prey on the mentally vulnerable, brainwash them, and reap the benefits with no real work on their part. You still find your own clients and do all of the work you were doing before and NOW you’re giving it all away.

 

A manager is posting your ads, finding your clients, keeping you organized, and charging a small fee in exchange. They’re actually working FOR YOU. You can fire them and move on at any time. Let’s not forget to mention YOU choose when you work. No one is forcing you to be on the clock or out looking for work.

 

Pimps are not good people. I’ve encountered many, and no I have not ever nor will I ever work for one. I’ve had many friends who have been pimped, as well as several working for agencies. I can’t even associate with any escorts working for pimps anymore because it is so emotionally and mentally draining. Pimps and managers... BIG DIFFERENCE!

 

Oh I'm sorry, Pimp light.

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

Pimp light.

 

Is that like Diet Pimp?

 

Half the responsibility, all the delicious pimp goodness.

[+ VictorPowers]

Is that like Diet Pimp?

 

Half the responsibility, all the delicious pimp goodness.

I prefer Pimp Zero. Zero calories.

[bigvalboy]

I’m sorry, but you can’t take a dictionary definition of a “pimp” and take it for fact. Especially when you have no knowledge on THE GAME. That book was written by a bunch of squares who I’m sure have no game knowledge either. That definition defines an agent, or a manager.. not a pimp at all.

 

Like I previously said I’ve encountered many pimps. One almost costing me my life. I live in Houston where about 7/10 of the strippers and working girls are pimped. These men manipulate, control, physically & mentally abuse these sex workers. There’s no taking “part of” their earnings... these escorts often times don’t even have 100$ to their name while the pimp is holding on to tens of thousands. They have to ask for money for anything. Food, get their nails done, and if they want to go shopping they better work harder!! You’re out working 7 days a week. You don’t have calls? You sit a hotel bar working all night or if you’re in Vegas those girls are out working the casinos 12 hours a day looking for a nice watch to steal and pawn off to impress their P. Pimps are brainwashers. They find you when you’re weak, heartbroken, flat broke and in a sticky situation... they offer you a helping hand and appear as a “friend” to help get you back on your feet and you owe them in return. But when do you stop oweing them? That’s where they get you. YOU DONT! You want to leave? Not with out getting your ass beat before you’re thrown out on the street again with nothing. They get so stuck in these situations its pretty much easier for them to believe all the lies and stay. I mean, he takes care of the bills and they get some nice designer things here and there.. so it’s all good right? These men are master manipulators and 100% pure evil. Pimps do no real work, and never have done real work.. they just finesse hoes out of their money just like the hoes finesse tricks out of money.

 

This was response was not only completely ignorant, but triggering as well. You don’t know anything about pimps so do not speak on it. I’ve seen more than I’m sure many people on this thread. Having your friends beaten unconscious until they’re bleeding out of their ears (they had a concussion and were still forced to work the next day). Having your friends in the emergency room because they were beaten so bad that their jaw was broken. Having friends ask to come over to hide from their pimp because he’s going crazy and they’re scared, only to go back after? Having to lend friends money to get back on their after literally running away from their pimps and having no money to survive. Trying to unbrainwash your friends that you love and care about to think for themselves, see their value as a person, and believe that they can do the same things and make the same money without him.. Only to have these pimps work just as hard at convincing them I don’t know what I’m talking about. EVENTUALLY having to leave the people you love and care about behind because at this point it’s so draining you can only worry about saving yourself. Oh and let’s not forget the time one went completely psycho while I was in the back seat of his car, driving recklessly over 100 screaming at us and threatening to crash and kill us all as we all cried and begged for our lives... I’m sure none of you REALLY know what a pimp is.

 

Thank you and allow me to make my point a little more clear. You’re absolutely right, of course you can know what a pimp is without first hand experience.

 

You don’t need to be a drug addict to know what a drug dealer is, but if you are you will have deeper and further insight of how to acquire drugs, sell drugs, and you will know many of the hidden risks and secrets involved in that walk of life and often times more than someone who is sober... because you experienced it first hand.

 

You don’t need to have been molested to know what a pedophile is, but if if you were you most likely have deeper understanding of what may have gone on in the mind of the person who assaulted you (assuming there was a prior platonic relationship) and how that plus other factors may have played a role in the situation.

 

So you’re right, you don’t have to have the experience or knowledge to know what a pimp is..... but do you really know? There is A LOT you wouldn’t know without experiencing it up close and personal. That’s what my intentions were with that statement. I’ve seen several uneducated assumptions on what a pimp is on this thread, and I guess to someone who knows how traumatic that lifestyle really is it does bother me that people are quick to assume with little to no education on the subject rather than asking questions.

 

 

I hope you keep posting here Blake...

[+ José Soplanucas]

Thank you and allow me to make my point a little more clear. You’re absolutely right, of course you can know what a pimp is without first hand experience.

 

You don’t need to be a drug addict to know what a drug dealer is, but if you are you will have deeper and further insight of how to acquire drugs, sell drugs, and you will know many of the hidden risks and secrets involved in that walk of life and often times more than someone who is sober... because you experienced it first hand.

 

You don’t need to have been molested to know what a pedophile is, but if if you were you most likely have deeper understanding of what may have gone on in the mind of the person who assaulted you (assuming there was a prior platonic relationship) and how that plus other factors may have played a role in the situation.

 

So you’re right, you don’t have to have the experience or knowledge to know what a pimp is..... but do you really know? There is A LOT you wouldn’t know without experiencing it up close and personal. That’s what my intentions were with that statement. I’ve seen several uneducated assumptions on what a pimp is on this thread, and I guess to someone who knows how traumatic that lifestyle really is it does bother me that people are quick to assume with little to no education on the subject rather than asking questions.

 

+1

[bigvalboy]

You don’t need to be a drug addict to know what a drug dealer is, but if you are you will have deeper and further insight of how to acquire drugs, sell drugs, and you will know many of the hidden risks and secrets involved in that walk of life and often times more than someone who is sober... because you experienced it first hand.

 

You don’t need to have been molested to know what a pedophile is, but if if you were you most likely have deeper understanding of what may have gone on in the mind of the person who assaulted you (assuming there was a prior platonic relationship) and how that plus other factors may have played a role in the situation.

 

So you’re right, you don’t have to have the experience or knowledge to know what a pimp is..... but do you really know? There is A LOT you wouldn’t know without experiencing it up close and personal. That’s what my intentions were with that statement. I’ve seen several uneducated assumptions on what a pimp is on this thread, and I guess to someone who knows how traumatic that lifestyle really is it does bother me that people are quick to assume with little to no education on the subject rather than asking questions.

 

Well said...Many of us come to these boards with a variety of life's experiences. Some are educated experiences, some make assumptions and use them as fact. You have to weed through all of that to find truth. It's messy business sometimes.

[Populist Fury]

Exactly why my mounted TV is for decoration and does not get used or even have cable. I am against all media unless it is work related

 

Smart bae <3

[Rod Hagen]

Several voicemails this weekend included the number for his hotel and room number. Each time he forgot his name (and other contact info), so the hotel would not put me through to him. I'm sure he's convinced I'm a flake.

[desertguy1954]

Several voicemails this weekend included the number for his hotel and room number. Each time he forgot his name (and other contact info), so the hotel would not put me through to him. I'm sure he's convinced I'm a flake.

I don't see how anyone would consider you a flake

[good ol boy]

I may post this elsewhere but after reviewing headings I thought this might be a good place to start. I contacted an escort. Invited him for the weekend. He asked for a deposit. I paid the deposit. I asked what cuisine he prefers. I sent links to restaurants . I asked if he likes theatre he said YES. I bought tickets to a show.

I asked for his date of birth so I could buy the plane ticket ( three times ) He has NOT given me the date of birth, As a result, I cannot buy the plane ticket. I know that one get more with honey than with vinegar but, how many times does one need to ask the same question, " May I have your date of birth please, so that I can purchase the plane ticket for your trip?" He sends a text every couple of days. Saying, "Hey how are , cant wait, looking forward to seeing you, life has been crazy," And I guess i just think if you can text the prior, you could also text your date of birth.... hmmmm

[mentalkink]

How does the message relay work from Rentmen? Does it send a notification to your phone and email when you have messages ?

[Zapped]

I've been exploring possibilities for a hire in NYC later this week (into younger muscle jock types). A coupke standouts, especially IrishJoshXL and AdrianoJose have been quick to reply and answer my questions. Another guy, who was my original first choice, just never told me what his rates are--so impossible to decide on one or two hours, for example. (I assume he's what seems to be the current NYC standard rate of about $300 for one hour).

 

We are all human, and I will admit I sometime an weakest at the self-promotion and business aspects of my own profession. And here we are dealing often with inexperienced guys in their 20s, often without the guidance of a mentor.

[coriolis888]

I may post this elsewhere but after reviewing headings I thought this might be a good place to start. I contacted an escort. Invited him for the weekend. He asked for a deposit. I paid the deposit. I asked what cuisine he prefers. I sent links to restaurants . I asked if he likes theatre he said YES. I bought tickets to a show.

I asked for his date of birth so I could buy the plane ticket ( three times ) He has NOT given me the date of birth, As a result, I cannot buy the plane ticket. I know that one get more with honey than with vinegar but, how many times does one need to ask the same question, " May I have your date of birth please, so that I can purchase the plane ticket for your trip?" He sends a text every couple of days. Saying, "Hey how are , cant wait, looking forward to seeing you, life has been crazy," And I guess i just think if you can text the prior, you could also text your date of birth.... hmmmm

 

 

You already gave him a deposit to visit you and he has not given you the necessary information for you to purchase an air ticket for him. At the same time, you said he sends a text to you every couple of days but continues to omit the critical information requested by you (and required by all airlines for you to buy his airplane ticket) - the date of birth of a traveler.

 

After three times of your asking for his birth date, and considering he has already received money from you in advance, I suspect that you will not be seeing this guy.

 

There is something askew in this guy's responses that indicate he is not serious about catching a plane to visit with you.

 

On the other hand, maybe he just lacks communication skills and you need to remind him about his date of birth a fourth time.

 

There are countless threads and posts on this forum relative to giving unknown escorts money in advance.

 

I wish you luck in sorting out getting the escort to your city.

Edited March 6, 2018 by coriolis888

[+ OliverSaks]

Sometimes, I get behind on messages/emails/texts/calls.

 

I’m sorry. It isn’t personal.

[Mike Padilla]

Why would a nice looking man place an ad offering escort services and then refuse to respond to a text expressing interest? Is there some logic here that I am completely missing? I hire several times a year and have always treated escorts with a great deal of respect.

Why would a nice looking man place an ad offering escort services and then refuse to respond to a text expressing interest? Is there some logic here that I am completely missing? I hire several times a year and have always treated escorts with a great deal of respect.

 

 

 

Sucks

[Inkdnaija00]

No response? Move on! Spend your money somewhere else