Be careful of what you tell other members

[+ lookingforfunny]

Let's switch the "why do you keep labeling" to "why do we".

I just do not see the point of targeting a whole class of people, implying there is something in their nature that should make us be cautious. My point is that it is irrelevant what your role is, we should always we cautious everywhere with everyone. And we should be able to find many people to trust also, everywhere, whoever they are.

I apologize if you felt I was addressing this against you.

 

Thank you, for sharing in greater detail. I understand. I felt a bit under attack for a moment. It was confusing, because, like your statement implies: I was trying [not] to label anyone. I was practicing something I rarely do, be open and transparent in a space where I could feel vulnerable. The forum has been a great place for me to practice and hone in on that place I find to be quite daunting.

 

You are correct, we should not label or target a whole class of people for the actions of a few. In this particular space, I have learned to be cautious of those in the forum with little to no experience by checking their profile and paying attention to moniker given by the site. I am less likely to share certain information with a newbie, compared to what I would share with someone with a much higher status. There is a learning process here and you do not have to be a member long to figure it out. It is more about the quantity/quality time spent in the forum giving and accepting feedback. I appreciate your feedback.

 

In my active daily life, I am much more cautious, mostly because of the less anonymous (known) nature of the interaction. However, in both situations it is difficult to judge another person's intent. I do not believe that all people have ill intentions. The bell curves.

 

I will keep this front of mind: Labeling, why do we do it? should we do it? when and where is it appropriate?

 

We all have a degree of prejudice when it comes to labeling. After a while, some things become a pattern, which causes a stereotype, not based in scientific data, but the court of public opinion.

[+ freecahill1965]

This is great advice. Another topic should be "be careful what you share with escorts." I have an escort friend I shared with recently. I informed him of a referral I gave and he confirmed that the person on the forum contacted him but they were angling for a discount, etc. So, I left it alone. Then I guess he continued to contact them and it became awkward for me. In the future, I will not recommend him. I am unaware of his business practices.

There are always a few ass holes. On the bright side, if we did not have assholes, we would be shitting out our ears and would behiring escorts with short pencil dicks.

[+ lookingforfunny]

There are always a few ass holes. On the bright side, if we did not have assholes, we would be shitting out our ears and would behiring escorts with short pencil dicks.

 

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[bigvalboy]

This is great advice. Another topic should be "be careful what you share with escorts." I have an escort friend I shared with recently. I informed him of a referral I gave and he confirmed that the person on the forum contacted him but they were angling for a discount, etc. So, I left it alone. Then I guess he continued to contact them and it became awkward for me. In the future, I will not recommend him. I am unaware of his business practices.

 

I no longer share information/comments with escorts, ever...period, by PM or otherwise. "fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice..." There are plenty of things to talk about without going down that "rabbit hole"

[+ José Soplanucas]

Thank you, for sharing in greater detail. I understand. I felt a bit under attack for a moment. It was confusing, because, like your statement implies: I was trying [not] to label anyone. I was practicing something I rarely do, be open and transparent in a space where I could feel vulnerable. The forum has been a great place for me to practice and hone in on that place I find to be quite daunting.

 

You are correct, we should not label or target a whole class of people for the actions of a few. In this particular space, I have learned to be cautious of those in the forum with little to no experience by checking their profile and paying attention to moniker given by the site. I am less likely to share certain information with a newbie, compared to what I would share with someone with a much higher status. There is a learning process here and you do not have to be a member long to figure it out. It is more about the quantity/quality time spent in the forum giving and accepting feedback. I appreciate your feedback.

 

In my active daily life, I am much more cautious, mostly because of the less anonymous (known) nature of the interaction. However, in both situations it is difficult to judge another person's intent. I do not believe that all people have ill intentions. The bell curves.

 

I will keep this front of mind: Labeling, why do we do it? should we do it? when and where is it appropriate?

 

We all have a degree of prejudice when it comes to labeling. After a while, some things become a pattern, which causes a stereotype, not based in scientific data, but the court of public opinion.

 

I wrote this back in July: http://ilikepinga.com/2017/07/13/people-never-learn/

 

The topic was not trusting others, but it is related to the labeling issue. Just in case you are interested.

[LADoug1]

C'mon guys. PMs are great. Whether or not they are private, they anyways provide a way to have a conversation amongst trusted members out of the general view. If you choose to be indiscreet with someone you do not know very well, it is your own poor judgement.

 

Trusted is the operative word here.

[KS87]

A M4M member soon to be visiting my area privately asked me to recommend RM escorts I have hired. I gave him a few names and also added a couple I was disappointed in meeting. He asked me to elaborate on one of the disappointments and I did. Big mistake. He then contacted that disappointment and relayed to him my remarks. Now, that escort is texting me to ask why I'm negatively reviewing him. I find this more than unfair. My comments to the inquiring M4M member were meant to remain just between the two of us. I did not post a review, I only made some candid observations to another member in private. I'm new on M4M, but isn't there some sort of code between members?

 

This is how ppl get their throats slashed and get others throats slashed!!!!Thats all.

[Marcus G vulcan]

And who published a "meet-n-greet" review ?

If I'm paying for thier time to chat about advice on the business. I see it as a business review on the person. If I wasn't paying then I would have just "assumed" they were a low level escort out looking for their "daily drug score.

[bigvalboy]

I also had an escort who showed up late for a sit down "meet and greet coffee chat" and was constantly interupted and distracted by their phone. I gave them a write up based on that. "They lacked to show one on one dedicated attention to client for a set time period. Yes they saw the review and tried to blast me on it but I informed them that I knew more of their one sided private phone conversation than that of our scheduled one. .

 

If I'm paying for thier time to chat about advice on the business. I see it as a business review on the person. If I wasn't paying then I would have just "assumed" they were a low level escort out looking for their "daily drug score.

 

Ummm...Once again.

"I gave them a write up based on that" and "Yes they saw the review"....Sooo where did you publish such a review, and who would publish it? On the MF, if the meeting never took place, then reviews are not allowed. If in fact you published it, that's fine. Show us where you did. Otherwise...don't come here with some bullshit story about how you reviewed an escort over his behavior during coffee. That's what "meet-n-greets' are for, to sort out whether or not someone is going to be a good hire, I think it's outrageous that you would review an escort under those circumstances. Clients like you give clients a bad name...

Edited January 3, 2018 by bigvalboy

[+ ArVaGuy]

Perhaps it’s because I’ve reached “middle age” or that life experience has just changed my point of view and I’ve “matured”. There’s not anything I would state in a PM that I wouldn’t state publicly in the forum or in direct conversation with someone. If an individual has an issue with what I’ve said, well, that’s fine. We’ve all had confidences shared by others indiscriminately whether it be a conversation, personal correspondence, business email, or whatever.

 

Once you hit “send” on an electronic communication you’ve lost all control of what happens from that point forward. It’s better to be judicious in PMs and stick to facts rather than conjecture or fabrications. I’ve shared information about good and not so good experiences and will continue to do so in the future. I’m not about to let fear of a reprisal keep me from stating true facts of an experience.

 

If a forum member betrays a confidence then that’s their character flaw.

[Marcus G vulcan]

Ummm...Once again.

"I gave them a write up based on that" and "Yes they saw the review"....Sooo where did you publish such a review, and who would publish it? On the MF, if the meeting never took place, then reviews are not allowed. If in fact you published, that's fine. Show us where you did. If you can't...don't come here with some bullshit about a story that you reviewed an escort over his behavior during coffee. That's what "meet-n-greets' are for, to sort out whether or not someone is going to be a good hire, I think it's outrageous that you would review an escort under those circumstances. Clients like you give clients a bad name...

Wow your more concerned about a write up that has nothing to do with you. I never mentioned that this was published here or the gender of the person. So why are you so absorbed about my experience with someone that I know? Your not even in the same country where this took place. So why don't you "drop it" and move on like myself and my friend have. There are other places forums personal websites and agencies that post reviews. This is not the only Avenue on which to post. Get over yourself I'm not talking about you. But if you experienced a bad review in the past or felt slighted by a client's review then deal with them. And I wouldn't be telling someone else that you haven't met or spoken to or where there to experience the situation "bullshit". This only makes you look bad buddy on THIS fourm. You may not agree but move on because your the only person who is having an issue with this. NOT the two parties that were Actively involved!

Edited January 3, 2018 by Marcus G vulcan

[KS87]

A dear friend once said " whenever you open your mouth make sure its an improvement on the silence."

[bigvalboy]

Wow your more concerned about a write up that has nothing to do with you. I never mentioned that this was published here or the gender of the person. So why are you so absorbed about my experience with someone that I know? Your not even in the same country where this took place. So why don't you "drop it" and move on like myself and my friend have. There are other places forums personal websites and agencies that post reviews. This is not the only Avenue on which to post. Get over yourself I'm not talking about you. But if you experienced a bad review in the past or felt slighted by a client's review then deal with them. And I wouldn't be telling someone else that you haven't met or spoken to or where there to experience the situation "bullshit". This only makes you look bad buddy on THIS fourm. You may not agree but move on because your the only person who is having an issue with this. NOT the two parties that were Actively involved!

 

Ha!...Just as I thought.

Edited January 3, 2018 by bigvalboy

[Marcus G vulcan]

Ha!...Just as I thought.

You thought what??? That I would entertain you...Nope! Grow up you know better stop looking for attention bigvalboy. I don't play childish games such as this as the one you are seeking. You want to come up to Toronto and meet us Both to talk about this?.. great!! we both would be happy to show the area while you drum up a working trip while here. You want to ask them for the location of their site for the review by all means I'm sure they would share it with you. But I don't see you sharing your contact list information so why would I.

[bigvalboy]

You thought what??? That I would entertain you...Nope! Grow up you know better stop looking for attention bigvalboy. I don't play childish games such as this as the one you are seeking. You want to come up to Toronto and meet us Both to talk about this?.. great!! we both would be happy to show the area while you drum up a working trip while here. You want to ask them for the location of their site for the review by all means I'm sure they would share it with you. But I don't see you sharing your contact list information so why would I.

 

It was a simple question...I knew you wouldn't produce a review or a website where it was published. As I stated before, writing a review on an escort over a meet-n-greet, whether or not he is OK with it is not the issue. It's a scummy thing to do, and clients like you give the rest of us a bad name. My work here is done, and yes, it's all been very entertaining. And you'll forgive me if I pass on your offer to come to the frozen north.

 

AND...for the record, your writing style sounds hauntingly familiar, Mr. Marcus G Vulcan. Does Daddy know you're here?

 

http://webdesign.org/img_articles/22449/8.gif

 

Hmmmm?

Edited January 4, 2018 by bigvalboy

[+ José Soplanucas]

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[+ Tarte Gogo]

Wow your more concerned about a write up that has nothing to do with you. I never mentioned that this was published here or the gender of the person. So why are you so absorbed about my experience with someone that I know? Your not even in the same country where this took place. So why don't you "drop it" and move on like myself and my friend have. There are other places forums personal websites and agencies that post reviews. This is not the only Avenue on which to post. Get over yourself I'm not talking about you. But if you experienced a bad review in the past or felt slighted by a client's review then deal with them. And I wouldn't be telling someone else that you haven't met or spoken to or where there to experience the situation "bullshit". This only makes you look bad buddy on THIS fourm. You may not agree but move on because your the only person who is having an issue with this. NOT the two parties that were Actively involved!

For some reason, I also thought that no link would be provided as a response to @bigvalboy’s request.

 

If it has nothing to do with us, why do you mention it to us? If it has nothing to do with us, we don’t care about it, right?

You are not making much sense.

Edited January 4, 2018 by Tarte Gogo

[MikeBiDude]

AND...for the record. Your writing style sounds hauntingly familiar, Mr. Marcus G Vulcan. Does Daddy know you're here?

 

http://webdesign.org/img_articles/22449/8.gif

 

Hmmmm?

[rvwnsd]

Didn't know there was all this PM drama going on behind the scenes until I read this thread lol

 

The few PM convos I've had so far have all been positive & friendly, hope it stays that way in 2018 <3

 

That has been my experience in the eleven years I've actively participated in this Forum.

 

I have only had positive experiences with forum members in PMs here...

I have met two very special men through PMs...

Same here, on both counts.

[john1973]

I've only had terrific experiences with PM. It's great to have those one-on-one exchanges and meet new folks (and potential real-life friends).

[LADoug1]

Ummm...Once again.

"I gave them a write up based on that" and "Yes they saw the review"....Sooo where did you publish such a review, and who would publish it? On the MF, if the meeting never took place, then reviews are not allowed. If in fact you published it, that's fine. Show us where you did. Otherwise...don't come here with some bullshit story about how you reviewed an escort over his behavior during coffee. That's what "meet-n-greets' are for, to sort out whether or not someone is going to be a good hire, I think it's outrageous that you would review an escort under those circumstances. Clients like you give clients a bad name...

 

 

Harsh reply.

[bigvalboy]

Harsh reply.

 

Not at all...

[MikeBiDude]

Harsh reply.

Real world...