Traveling Cross Country for 1st Timer

[+ VictorPowers]

Hoping someone can give me some advice. I'm interested in flying a guy out from LA to Denver for a weekend. Rate is 4k, and wants half down and hotel and flight booked which i understand. Little gunshy because previous encounter here went a little sideways but I'm really into him. Just want to be careful and am hesitant on sending him 2k on trust me. Doesn't really have any written reviews that I can find. Suggestions on how I can minimze my risk? Any feedback is appreciated.

I'd say 25% down, or flight accommodations paid for would be sufficient. Half down seems pretty hefty.

[jawjateck]

Hoping someone can give me some advice. I'm interested in flying a guy out from LA to Denver for a weekend. Rate is 4k, and wants half down and hotel and flight booked which i understand. Little gunshy because previous encounter here went a little sideways but I'm really into him. Just want to be careful and am hesitant on sending him 2k on trust me. Doesn't really have any written reviews that I can find. Suggestions on how I can minimze my risk? Any feedback is appreciated.

 

The risk-reward is working against you in this scenario......bigly. I would never do this, but that's just me. If you proceed on his terms, he better be damn good, but I do hope you have a great time.

[BriGuy]

The risk-reward is working against you in this scenario......bigly. I would never do this, but that's just me. If you proceed on his terms, he better be damn good, but I do hope you have a great time.

Yeah he's really hot and a sweet guy but I'm not sure that I trust him.

He says that 1/2 down is the "industry" standard but idk. I just don't want to get jipped. But I do want to be fair and straight forward with him.

[jawjateck]

He says that 1/2 down is the "industry" standard

 

Ummmmm......NO, it aint! I have flown guys (never having previously met) dozens of times. I have paid modest deposits maybe 2 times to settle a newbie's nerves about my seriousness, but certainly nothing approximating half the fee in advance.

[BriGuy]

Ummmmm......NO, it aint! I have flown guys (never having previously met) dozens of times. I have paid modest deposits maybe 2 times to settle a newbie's nerves about my seriousness, but certainly nothing approximating half the fee in advance.

Thank you so much for the feedback. Seemed sketchy to me. I would like to meet the guy but don't want to be played either.

Suggestions on a counteroffer? One person said 25% down.. other thoughts?

[BabyBoomer]

other thoughts?

 

You fly to LA to meet him.

 

~Boomer~

[GTMike]

To "BriGuy", i hate to say this now but the toothpaste may be out out of the tube, but if it were me in that situation, i may have asked the Forum members for their experiences/opinion of the escort in a general sense first to get a sense of the basic level of professionalism if you had questions about that? Then based on those responses perhaps private messaged some of the members asking if they would potentially "trust" that type of situation in general if you were worried about being jipped or scammed. Then move on to inquire about what is potentially a "standard" or "fair' market rate in the situation. Just IMO if i understood the situation correctly.

[+ BlueSky]

You fly to LA to meet him.

 

~Boomer~

 

This does seem like a better scenario for your first meeting. If things don't work out or there is no chemistry it's easier to walk away from it. And you'd have many available second choices to hire in LA.

[Frequentflier]

Hoping someone can give me some advice. I'm interested in flying a guy out from LA to Denver for a weekend. Rate is 4k, and wants half down and hotel and flight booked which i understand. Little gunshy because previous encounter here went a little sideways but I'm really into him. Just want to be careful and am hesitant on sending him 2k on trust me. Doesn't really have any written reviews that I can find. Suggestions on how I can minimze my risk? Any feedback is appreciated.

 

Hey BriGuy. I've provided round trip airline tickets up front. Have never been asked for a cash advance beyond that and I wouldn't send any. If a guy insisted on a cash advance I'd pass. If the guy is nervous, tell him you'll give him some of his fee when he arrives. I think both parties are somewhat nervous until meeting in person.

[Cannon]

Everyone is different, but for me....receiving the plane ticket was deposit enough.

[Mocha]

Thank you for guiding me to the ignore button. I found it and have joined you guys in ignoring him

 

The fact that you needed to be "guided" to find an ignore button to begin with, proves my point that you don't have street smarts or the common sense you claim.

 

Don't try to play the victim. We both know it was you whom initially bossed up and instigated on 2 occasions, a disagreement. The first time, I didn't even know you, and I still don't know you. You have this pompous attitude like you know it all, and then want to play cute and innocent like you're not a shit starter. Have a seat.

 

If you really had heart, you'd of addressed me in a polite way and said: hey, I am a fellow escort, let's share those concerns. Instead, you come in guns blazing...and then want to play the ignore game when you get called out on your bullshit.

 

Everyone is different, but for me....receiving the plane ticket was deposit enough.

 

And yet another error of judgement. You may get away with that once, but there's going to be times where just having a plane ticket alone is not going to be worth the circumstances.

 

I know a friend who had a guy from Atlanta (who he never met) fly him into town from Denver. This was last year. My friend flew out, but then I couldn't reach him for 3 days. Phone off. I was getting worried. Turns out, the guy flew him into Atlanta....but then drove him 2 hours north to an unknown location in the mountains to some cabin with no reception, and basically kept him as his "boy". The scenario was complicated, and if my friend wasn't such a daft, any other person would have been terrified. I believe he said he left him there, and then drove back to Atlanta...and then came back a couple days later. Leaving my friend with no transportation to get back. Eventually; me, my friend and this stranger all met up. But the whole scenario was really odd and not being able to reach my friend those 3 days threw off our plans.

 

Though it "worked out", the fact he was without phone signal shows the guy knew he had the "boy" by the balls and at his whim. Now, imagine if shit would have went left. There's probably some dead bodies out there. I don't play with that shit. Having someone I never met fly me out someplace and consider the plane ticket as a deposit is crazy. I would need plane ticket, rental car, $500 spending cash. Upfront. Rate not included. However, I don't travel in that fashion so it's generally not asked of.

 

I also know an escort here who has an even more harrowing tale, but I won't name the name or the story. I also have some really good travel experiences, but non of them involved getting on a airplane at their expense and meeting the phantom client in a far away place.

Edited November 27, 2017 by Mocha

[MikeBiDude]

The fact that you needed to be "guided" to find an ignore button to begin with, proves my point that you don't have street smarts or the common sense you claim.

 

Don't try to play the victim. We both know it was you initially bossed up and instigated on 2 occasions, a disagreement. The first time, I didn't even know you, and I still don't know you. You have this pompous attitude like you know it all, and then want to play cute and innocent like you're not a shit starter. Have a seat. That fake may fly in LA, but in Florida that gets you beat down to the ground. A left hook hurricane punch.

 

If you really had heart, you'd of addressed me in a polite way and said: hey, I am a fellow escort, let's share those concerns. Instead, you come in guns blazing...and then want to play the ignore game when you get called out on your bullshit.

 

 

 

And yet another error of judgement. You may get away with the once, but there's going to be times where just having a plane ticket alone is not going to be worth the circumstances.

 

I know a friend who had a guy from Atlanta (who he never met) fly him into town from Denver. This was last year. My friend flew out, but then I couldn't reach him for 3 days. Phone off. I was getting worried. Turns out, the guy flew him into Atlanta....but then drove him 2 hours north to an unknown location in the mountains to some cabin with no reception, and basically kept him as his "boy". The scenario was complicated, and if my friend wasn't such a daft, any other person would have been terrified. I also think he left him there, and then drove back to Atlanta...and then came back a couple days later. Leaving my friend with no transportation to get back. Eventually, me, my friend and his "trick" all hung out. But the whole scenario was really odd and not being able to reach my friend those 3 days messed up our plans.

 

Though it "worked out", the fact he was without phone signal shows the guy knew he had the "boy" by the balls and at his whim. Now, imagine if shit would have went left. There's probably some dead bodies out there. I don't play with that shit. Having someone I never met fly me out someplace and consider the plane ticket as a deposit is crazy. I would need plane ticket, rental car, $500 spending cash. Upfront. Rate not included. However, I don't travel in that fashion so it's generally not asked of.

 

I also know an escort here who has an even more harrowing tale, but I won't name the name or the story. I also have some really good travel experiences, but non of them involved getting on a airplane at their expense and meeting the phantom client in a far away place.

I know which of the two I’ve reached out to for a meet, and it isn’t Mocha. Shoooo, fly

[Mocha]

I know which of the two I’ve reached out to for a meet, and it isn’t Mocha. Shoooo, fly

 

Well that sounds like a personal issue that doesn't concern me. If you have to make a claim to dislike someone you've never met and then announce it, ask yourself what you get from it. In addition. Just because you reach out to someone doesn't equate to an actual met. I've already had plenty others who've met me including but not limited to:

 

@tanman4u

@not2rowdy

@dcguy20

@latbear4blk

 

And none have said anything bad personally about having met. So you need to find it in yourself to let go of whatever animosity created, that has you wanting to actually feel good about thinking you can ostracize someone.

 

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[MikeBiDude]

Well that sounds like a personal issue that doesn't concern me. If you have to make a claim to dislike someone you've never met and then announce it, ask yourself what you get from it. In addition. Just because you reach out to someone doesn't equate to an actual met. I've already had plenty others who've met me including but not limited to:

 

@tanman4u

@not2rowdy

@dcguy20

@latbear4blk

 

And none have said anything bad personally about having met. So you need to find it in yourself to let go of whatever animosity created, that has you wanting to actually feel good about thinking you can ostracize someone.

 

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As I’ve mentione many times on the forum I would NEVER hire you 100% strictly based on your attitude here. Period. Many agree

[instudiocity]

Mocha

As charming as I find your adorable attempts at putting articulate sentences together ...(and they are adorable) I had to stop reading your comment after the second paragraph. I'm not sure why you think it takes days to get to Miami ...it takes five hours...so...I'll stop there because ....suddenly I'm reminded of a George Carlin quote...he says "never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience".

That said, I sincerely hope u have a busy week so you can be happier. Happy Holidays from me...the "sell out" ;-) - Xo

This response was a left neive to the the jaw.

[instudiocity]

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You have this pompous attitude like you know it all, and then want to play cute and innocent like you're not a shit starter. Have a seat. That fake may fly in LA, but in Florida that gets you beat down to the ground. A left hook hurricane punch.

 

... Instead, you come in guns blazing...and then want to play the ignore game when you get called out on your bullshit.

Mocha Self-proclaims again he is:

pomposity detector

know-it all detector

Adjudicator of cuteness

Fact Finder of innocence

 

and last but not least:

Bullshit ANALyst

[bigvalboy]

Mocha Self-proclaims again he is:

pomposity detector

know-it all detector

Adjudicator of cuteness

Fact Finder of innocence

 

and last but not least:

Bullshit ANALyst

 

Always good to see you post...

[bigvalboy]

It's been a pleasure, but I will no longer participate in conversations...

https://www.companyofmen.org/threads/its-been-a-pleasure-but-i-will-no-longer-participate-in-conversations.129765/

 

 

Young blood, sit down. You don't want to go there with me. You don't even fit well in the suit you're wearing, so don't try to balls up against me.

 

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Edited November 26, 2017 by bigvalboy

[MikeBiDude]

It's been a pleasure, but I will no longer participate in conversations...

https://www.companyofmen.org/threads/its-been-a-pleasure-but-i-will-no-longer-participate-in-conversations.129765/

 

 

 

 

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He’s got MacArthur beat for returns

[BigK]

Hoping someone can give me some advice. I'm interested in flying a guy out from LA to Denver for a weekend. Rate is 4k, and wants half down and hotel and flight booked which i understand. Little gunshy because previous encounter here went a little sideways but I'm really into him. Just want to be careful and am hesitant on sending him 2k on trust me. Doesn't really have any written reviews that I can find. Suggestions on how I can minimze my risk? Any feedback is appreciated.

 

Have you considered a trip to LA for yourself? Many fish in the sea if the person you want to see flakes out. And if you have a connection you can always fly him out to you in the future.

[instudiocity]

Hoping someone can give me some advice. I'm interested in flying a guy out from LA to Denver for a weekend. Rate is 4k, and wants half down and hotel and flight booked which i understand. Little gunshy because previous encounter here went a little sideways but I'm really into him. Just want to be careful and am hesitant on sending him 2k on trust me. Doesn't really have any written reviews that I can find. Suggestions on how I can minimze my risk? Any feedback is appreciated.

DOOD! For $4G’s, you can fly your butt to LA, get a suite in the Beverly Hilton and enjoy ‘call boys’ by the hour, morning, afternoon, and night for a weekend and still fly home with a $G left in your pocket!

[+ DickyF]

I too have done the traveling. The AA Vacations site provides super deals and I’ll get miles. If there is a screwup you got a lot more options especially in LA.

It sounds like you haven’t met him yet. What if the chemistry is bad? Doesn’t seem a concern to many though.

[Mocha]

As I’ve mentione many times on the forum I would NEVER hire you 100% strictly based on your attitude here. Period. Many agree

 

I'm sorry you've allowed yourself to feel that way. But I have to tell you, you're operating in a way that an emotionally abusive person would, and need to work out those issues in counseling, not with me. That's a learned behavior. If you feel that withholding sex (e.g. Not hiring) from someone is your way of gaining power over that person, you are operating under an emotionally abusive personality.

 

You just said, strictly based on my attitude here. Therefore, beyond anything else: it's a control factor on your end. You want me to act a certain way to appease you, but since I'm not doing that...you want to voice to me and the Internet, that you won't give me something that I never asked from you in the first place: your dick/ass/money.

 

https://www.gentlepathmeadows.com/blog/item/68-withholding-sex-is-a-form-of-psychological-abuse

[MikeBiDude]

I'm sorry you've allowed yourself to feel that way. But I have to tell you, you're operating in a way that an emotionally abusive person would, and need to work out those issues in counseling, not with me. That's a learned behavior. If you feel that withholding sex (e.g. Not hiring) from someone is your way of gaining power over that person, you are operating under an emotionally abusive personality.

 

You just said, strictly based on my attitude here. Therefore, beyond anything else: it's a control factor on your end. You want me to act a certain way to appease you, but since I'm not doing that...you want to voice to me and the Internet, that you won't give me something that I never asked from you in the first place: your dick/ass/money.

 

https://www.gentlepathmeadows.com/blog/item/68-withholding-sex-is-a-form-of-psychological-abuse

[KennF]

I'm sorry you've allowed yourself to feel that way. But I have to tell you, you're operating in a way that an emotionally abusive person would, and need to work out those issues in counseling, not with me. That's a learned behavior. If you feel that withholding sex (e.g. Not hiring) from someone is your way of gaining power over that person, you are operating under an emotionally abusive personality.

 

You just said, strictly based on my attitude here. Therefore, beyond anything else: it's a control factor on your end. You want me to act a certain way to appease you, but since I'm not doing that...you want to voice to me and the Internet, that you won't give me something that I never asked from you in the first place: your dick/ass/money.

 

https://www.gentlepathmeadows.com/blog/item/68-withholding-sex-is-a-form-of-psychological-abuse

 

*chuckle* I've noticed that you do like to deflect and attack people.

 

Here, you are equating "choosing not to hire you" with "withholding sex" from a relationship. But, not hiring is not the same as withholding. Withholding refers to something you were entitled, had a right, or some reasonable claim, to receive. As you weren't entitled to his "dick/ass/money" in the first place.

 

In analogy, by not hiring a barber, am I withholding my hair from every barber? No.

A businessman needs to entice the sale/customer. They aren't entitled to it.

 

If your real life persona is vastly different than this online persona, then you aren't doing yourself any favors in marketing to potential clients.