Non Escort Tipping

[+ Avalon]

I just don't understand why everyone and their dog expects a tip. I live near a nice restaurant. Sometimes I go there and place an order to take home. They expect a tip. Now if I ate there yes I think a tip would be appropriate but for take away.

 

My car window was broken. The glass replacement people came out to my home. When it came time to pay I was asked how much I wanted to give as a tip!

[+ poolboy48220]

I see tip jars on the counter at lots of counter service places. It's all a matter of traditions & local customs, and there's a growing movement to eliminate tipping entirely and pay the people who depend on tips (who can legally get paid below minimum wage) a real wage.

[bigvalboy]

I only tip in the jars on the counter if they're cute...

[Deadlift1]

I agree OP.

[cany10011]

I prefer japan, where tipping is not necessary. The price listed is the price you pay. When i visit my family in Canada i only tip waiters 10% but here in nyc, i almost feel guilty leaving anything less than 20%. I don't know why, but i think it's because everyone here does it.

[+ LIguy]

I think that's one of the reasons I don't use food delivery services like GrubHub because I just don't know what to tip. I give 4 or 5 bucks to the Chinese food delivery guy or the pizza guy but that's about all I order out.

[Kevin Slater]

but here in nyc, i almost feel guilty leaving anything less than 20%.

 

20%?! Fucking cheapskate.

 

Kevin Slater

[+ azdr0710]

[Islesguy]

I agree with the OP as well. The worst is the self-serve yogurt places that have tip cups. Why am I tipping you when I am doing all the work?

[jjkrkwood]

If the individual is a minimum wage worker, or their pay arrangement is a low salary + tips, I have no issue tipping, and the tip will depend on the level of service and attitude. A friendly demeanor and smile goes a long way.

[+ Avalon]

At the grocery store I go to I have the clerk take my groceries out to my car. I don't tip. In fact I understand that tipping is not allowed.

[jjkrkwood]

At the grocery store I go to I have the clerk take my groceries out to my car. I don't tip. In fact I understand that tipping is not allowed.

 

In that situation I would tip, but if it is not allowed, so be it.

[+ Keith30309]

Position Avg Starting Wage

Server $3.50 – $7.50

Bartender $8.00 – $11.00

Lesee... the average server salary is $5.50/hr then. That's $44.00 for an 8-hr shift or in the ballpark of $1,000/month (the official average is $12,876/yr). Rent for a studio apartment in Atlanta averages $1,068/mo, or $12,816... leaving $60 for other expenses like day care. I tend to tip these folks generously.

 

On the other hand, the OP's Glass Installer seems to me like a pretty shameless opportunist and I wouldn't consider that a 'tippable' job unless he did something truly extraordinary.

[Strafe13]

I also think the idea of giving a tip when I pick up food from a restaurant is ridiculous. Of course I tip for dine in service when I'm waited upon. But for take out? GTFOH!

[LaffingBear]

I don't tip for carryout-pickup. I havent had food delivered in decades.

 

I tip restaurant servers, haircutter, parking valets, hotel bell staff, leave a tip for hotel housekeepers.

 

I leave a buck or two on my table in a fast-casual restaurant where I ordered in line, but they deliver and/or clean up after.

 

I toss my change when I get a coffee. I just drink coffee - no mocha-lotta-halfy-frappy-whappy for me.

 

I dont tip the UPS delivery guy. But I tipped the guys who delivered and set up my washer & dryer.

 

I always rounded up, sorta tipped, the person who did yardwork for me.

 

I wanted to sink into the floor when a college buddy told a bad waitress "here's my tip, Don't use your vibrator in the bathtub! "

[+ sniper]

I also think the idea of giving a tip when I pick up food from a restaurant is ridiculous. Of course I tip for dine in service when I'm waited upon. But for take out? GTFOH!

I used to feel that way but then I thought more about it and these people are still taking and order and packing it up. That's roughly half the work of when they have to clear as well. So if I'm picking up a $40 order at the Outback Takeaway window I will usually give them 4 or 5 bucks.

 

I'm unclear on whether the takeaway servers are paid the same sub-minimum wage that table waitstaff makes. If they are, they definitely should be tipped.

[Good Grief]

I used to feel that way but then I thought more about it and these people are still taking and order and packing it up. That's roughly half the work of when they have to clear as well. So if I'm picking up a $40 order at the Outback Takeaway window I will usually give them 4 or 5 bucks.

 

I'm unclear on whether the takeaway servers are paid the same sub-minimum wage that table waitstaff makes. If they are, they definitely should be tipped.

 

Agree, totally.

[LaffingBear]

Unlike under federal regulations, in California an employer cannot use an employee's tips as a credit towards its obligation to pay the minimum wage. California law requires that employees receive the minimum wage plus any tips left for them by patrons of the employer's business. Labor Code Section 351

 

Thats $10.50/hr throughout CA. Higher in some cities. San Francisco @ $14.00/hour.

[bigvalboy]

 

Ha! that was my dad...Never could win that argument. We would go out to lunch or dinner, and he would never tip one dime. When he got up to leave, I would always make the excuse that I had to use the restroom, and I'd go in the back an tip the waiter. A few years back he caught me giving the waiter some money. He was furious. Lectured me all the way home. I just sat there in silence. When we pulled in the driveway, he asked me how long I had been tipping the waiter behind his back. I got out of the car, looked back at him and said, "Twenty years" ...The look on his face was priceless...

[Good Grief]

Ha! that was my dad...Never could win that argument. We would go out to lunch or dinner, and he would never tip one dime. When he got up to leave, I would always make the excuse that I had to use the restroom, and I'd go in the back an tip the waiter. A few years back he caught me giving the waiter some money. He was furious. Lectured me all the way home. I just sat there in silence. When we got home, he asked me how long I had been tipping the waiter behind his back. I got out of the car, looked back at him and said, "Twenty years" ...The look on his face was priceless...

 

Once, after a restaurant lunch years ago, an elderly aunt of my mom's handed over the tip my mom had left - "you forgot this."

 

My mom was mortified. Took it back in (in a ruse to visit the restroom.)

 

This was a story retold by many of my elders. And I say elders, my mom would have celebrated her 95th birthday this year!

 

(All this happened WAY before my time as I'm only 35 yo!) Hahahaha.

[+ sam.fitzpatrick]

At the grocery store I go to I have the clerk take my groceries out to my car. I don't tip. In fact I understand that tipping is not allowed.

 

I worked at a grocery from my junior year in high school until college graduation. Although the official policy was tipping was not allowed, I had days where my tips totalled over $10. In those days ('81 -'86) a tip might be only a quarter. Some customers tipped $1/$100 of groceries. In those days, all bags were paper. We could easily get customers with nine or ten bags full.

 

I had only customer that would only let me and one other blond guy carry is bag or two out to his convertible. We were to place the bags in the back seat without touching the paint. One of us could count on getting that $5 tip each Saturday morning!

[+ Avalon]

I have seen children after their parents have left the table go and take the tip.

[+ sniper]

I have seen children after their parents have left the table go and take the tip.

When I tip cash I make sure to hand it to the server. I don't leave it on the table any more.

[jjkrkwood]

Position Avg Starting Wage

Server $3.50 – $7.50

Bartender $8.00 – $11.00

Lesee... the average server salary is $5.50/hr then. That's $44.00 for an 8-hr shift or in the ballpark of $1,000/month (the official average is $12,876/yr). Rent for a studio apartment in Atlanta averages $1,068/mo, or $12,816... leaving $60 for other expenses like day care. I tend to tip these folks generously.

 

On the other hand, the OP's Glass Installer seems to me like a pretty shameless opportunist and I wouldn't consider that a 'tippable' job unless he did something truly extraordinary.

 

 

so then, what is the "take away" from this thread ? tipping is an individual thing and depends on the person AND the situation. Its not my job or responsibility to support these people who are low wage earners. But if I feel they provided me exceptional service in a friendly manner, I would be inclined to leave them something extra. Depends on my mood at the time.

[LaffingBear]

so then, what is the "take away" from this thread ? tipping is an individual thing and depends on the person AND the situation. Its not my job or responsibility to support these people who are low wage earners. But if I feel they provided me exceptional service in a friendly manner, I would be inclined to leave them something extra. Depends on my mood at the time.

Recognize that in some industries, wages are set based upon an expectation they will be augmented by gratuities.

 

So, rather than tipping only for exceptional (a subjective term) service.

Consider a moderate tip for good service, a generous tip for exceptional service, and no tip for bad service.