Traveling: Why is it that more and more clients can't host?

[Mocha]

Post ads in city. People start contacting, but then when it comes to schedule sessions...they can't host? Then, they don't understand I have to ask for deposit because otherwise I'm paying for a hotel on the speculation that they'll show up.

 

It's problematic because I've only have between 3 pm and 11 am to use a hotel room. It's not like I'll have a full 24 hours. If they don't or can't show up between those times, I'm left having to pay again for a room to accomodate them.

 

Not everyone travels the same. Some fly into a city with hotels pre booked, others may drive across several cities getting clients along the way. It seems like people have an unrealistic assumption that we are all there, booked into a hotel with no advance appointments or just see our ad and assume we're waiting in a hotel somewhere. I don't mind hosting or getting the hotel, but I need a guarantee they'll show up.

 

It's like when I was in Atlanta the other Thursday. I had went ahead and booked a nice hotel with a king sized bed and Jacuzzi but didn't have any clients over. I can't do that city to city to city. Eventually people need to either be able to host or be willing to get a hotel themselves if they can't. It places too much of the burden on me to be required to host and pay for a hotel (and lose the money if they can't show up...which is 50% likely to happen).

 

The thing people don't understand too is (again, it comes down to explaining logistics which people always say, "oh I didn't know you were coming from...) I don't need a hotel room in every city. If I'm planning to go from point A to point B and go through 2 or 3 cities over the course of a couple days, I belong to a nationwide but small 24 hour accessible gym. They're in virtually every city and state I've traveled to, even in the Podunk towns. I can take a private shower and some have private "quiet rooms" to sleep for a couple hours until it's time to get going again.

 

I don't have to mention the cost of hotels to know, it adds up fast. Then, most only want to book an hour, that takes away 30-50% of the fee off the first client. Some towns you're only getting 1 maybe 2 clients each hotel night. With many clients being unable to host (and for some reason not having many contacting from hotels either), it's like the whole sightseein experience of being able to travel city to city and seeing clients along the way is becoming less worth the money and time being put into it.

Edited September 10, 2017 by Mocha

[OneFinger]

I don't host at my house because I value my privacy. But, when I hire I typically get a hotel room and "host" from there.

[Mocha]

I don't host at my house because I value my privacy. But, when I hire I typically get a hotel room and "host" from there.

 

Well that's a good way to do it, and I've had people do it that way at times.

 

Other times I've waited for them to arrive to the room first and then went and checked in (usually at smaller in/out hotels usually). But I don't like doing it that way because I rather be in the room ready when they get there versus them having to watch me set everything up. Not to mention may have to change rooms, wait behind a line of 20 tourists because their flight was cancelled, etc.

 

The other thing people don't get, most times I can't check into a hotel before 2 or 3 pm. I tried that in Atlanta the other day, got there at few minutes before noon. She could have checked me in, but their check in/check out system was down for 2 hours. TWO HOURS people. And the room with the jacuzzi hadn't been cleaned yet.

 

If I had a client wanting to book at noon or 1 pm like one wanted to do a few weeks ago (which didn't happen), it would have been another example of an annoying cancellation out of my control over some bullshit. Because you know....they can only meet at that 1 time and that's the only hour they can meet out of the entire 24 hours out of all the days of the week. Conveniently.

[BearBill]

I'm new to hiring, my first time is tomorrow. He is getting a hotel near me, he didn't say if I should pay for the room.

What is the norm? Now that I think about I'll bring extra money just in case.

Btw I cant host because my brother lives with me in my home.

[+ oldNbusted]

I'm new to hiring, my first time is tomorrow. He is getting a hotel near me, he didn't say if I should pay for the room.

What is the norm? Now that I think about I'll bring extra money just in case.

Btw I cant host because my brother lives with me in my home.

 

It's not normal without arranging that with you in advance. You should feel free to contact him now and ask him what the total fee is. You shouldn't feel like you need to carry extra cash around 'just in case'.

[MartyB]

Post ads in city. People start contacting, but then when it comes to schedule sessions...they can't host? Then, they don't understand I have to ask for deposit because otherwise I'm paying for a hotel on the speculation that they'll show up.

 

It's problematic because I've only have between 3 pm and 11 am to use a hotel room. It's not like I'll have a full 24 hours. If they don't or can't show up between those times, I'm left having to pay again for a room to accomodate them.

 

Not everyone travels the same. Some fly into a city with hotels pre booked, others may drive across several cities getting clients along the way. It seems like people have an unrealistic assumption that we are all there, booked into a hotel with no advance appointments or just see our ad and assume we're waiting in a hotel somewhere. I don't mind hosting or getting the hotel, but I need a guarantee they'll show up.

 

It's like when I was in Atlanta the other Thursday. I had went ahead and booked a nice hotel with a king sized bed and Jacuzzi but didn't have any clients over. I can't do that city to city to city. Eventually people need to either be able to host or be willing to get a hotel themselves if they can't. It places too much of the burden on me to be required to host and pay for a hotel (and lose the money if they can't show up...which is 50% likely to happen).

 

The thing people don't understand too is (again, it comes down to explaining logistics which people always say, "oh I didn't know you were coming from...) I don't need a hotel room in every city. If I'm planning to go from point A to point B and go through 2 or 3 cities over the course of a couple days, I belong to a nationwide but small 24 hour accessible gym. They're in virtually every city and state I've traveled to, even in the Podunk towns. I can take a private shower and some have private "quiet rooms" to sleep for a couple hours until it's time to get going again.

 

I don't have to mention the cost of hotels to know, it adds up fast. Then, most only want to book an hour, that takes away 30-50% of the fee off the first client. Some towns you're only getting 1 maybe 2 clients each hotel night. With many clients being unable to host (and for some reason not having many contacting from hotels either), it's like the whole sightseein experience of being able to travel city to city and seeing clients along the way is becoming less worth the money and time being put into it.

For personal reasons one of which is privacy many clients including myself cannot host. If an escort chooses to travel to NYC I'm assuming they have rented and apt or gotten a hotel room. I get what your saying but on the other hand many clients have to do in calls. Plus the cost of the hotel and the escorts rate would put that escort out of my $ range probably.

[+ oldNbusted]

...when I hire I typically get a hotel room and "host" from there.

 

I'm curious, do you do this with locals who would host? Maybe not applicable for you?

[+ oldNbusted]

This has been mentioned in other threads, but seems like it might be of interest to some who read this thread. Some hotels do have rooms available during the day:

 

https://www.hotelsbyday.com/

[Dodo]

For personal reasons one of which is privacy many clients including myself cannot host. If an escort chooses to travel to NYC I'm assuming they have rented and apt or gotten a hotel room. I get what your saying but on the other hand many clients have to do in calls. Plus the cost of the hotel and the escorts rate would put that escort out of my $ range probably.

 

Good point. Adding the hotel fee, which can be high depending on where the hotel is located and the day of the week, would definitely be a deterring factor and would make the client more selective about who to hire. Not only that, but the client would also be charged the outcall fee instead of the incall.

 

Mocha, I don't know what advice to give you except that you possibly need to figure out how to get more clients, as that seems to be the heart of your issue. Think about changing your ad copy, get new pics, etc. When it comes to internet marketing, you have to know your ABTs (Always Be Testing)

[+ VictorPowers]

I'm new to hiring, my first time is tomorrow. He is getting a hotel near me, he didn't say if I should pay for the room.

What is the norm? Now that I think about I'll bring extra money just in case.

Btw I cant host because my brother lives with me in my home.

It should be communicated beforehand if the appointment is In/Out call. Once that is sorted out, then you're free to pay the provider's fee + any additional tip you wish. Don't feel obligated to cover their room expense.

To OP @Mocha

Judging by your last post, you seem very bitter from recent cancelations and not receiving "sure thing" bookings. Cancelations are unavoidable. I've had very reliable regulars still cancel.. It happens. If you're fix to this is charging every client a deposit, good luck. This will likely not cover your "expenses" and will certainly drive clients away. That's not the direction I'd take, but hey it's your method of business and not mine.

Edited September 11, 2017 by VictorPowers

[BaronArtz]

'recharge' is an app that lets you book a hotel room by the minute ... I think they are only in SF and NYC at the moment, but it works like a charm.

 

https://recharge.co/

 

https://techcrunch.com/2016/03/24/recharge-lets-you-book-a-hotel-room-for-minutes-at-a-time/

[sincitymix]

This has been mentioned in other threads, but seems like it might be of interest to some who read this thread. Some hotels do have rooms available during the day:

 

https://www.hotelsbyday.com/

thanks for this link! now i can afford to hire those pesky outcall only with out paying hundred(s) more

[+ freecahill1965]

I pay for top notch hotels (Lowes Boston) and I had two escorts not even show up over the past few days. I guess the poor experiences go both ways. It sucks.

[+ freecahill1965]

Post ads in city. People start contacting, but then when it comes to schedule sessions...they can't host? Then, they don't understand I have to ask for deposit because otherwise I'm paying for a hotel on the speculation that they'll show up.

 

It's problematic because I've only have between 3 pm and 11 am to use a hotel room. It's not like I'll have a full 24 hours. If they don't or can't show up between those times, I'm left having to pay again for a room to accomodate them.

 

Not everyone travels the same. Some fly into a city with hotels pre booked, others may drive across several cities getting clients along the way. It seems like people have an unrealistic assumption that we are all there, booked into a hotel with no advance appointments or just see our ad and assume we're waiting in a hotel somewhere. I don't mind hosting or getting the hotel, but I need a guarantee they'll show up.

 

It's like when I was in Atlanta the other Thursday. I had went ahead and booked a nice hotel with a king sized bed and Jacuzzi but didn't have any clients over. I can't do that city to city to city. Eventually people need to either be able to host or be willing to get a hotel themselves if they can't. It places too much of the burden on me to be required to host and pay for a hotel (and lose the money if they can't show up...which is 50% likely to happen).

 

The thing people don't understand too is (again, it comes down to explaining logistics which people always say, "oh I didn't know you were coming from...) I don't need a hotel room in every city. If I'm planning to go from point A to point B and go through 2 or 3 cities over the course of a couple days, I belong to a nationwide but small 24 hour accessible gym. They're in virtually every city and state I've traveled to, even in the Podunk towns. I can take a private shower and some have private "quiet rooms" to sleep for a couple hours until it's time to get going again.

 

I don't have to mention the cost of hotels to know, it adds up fast. Then, most only want to book an hour, that takes away 30-50% of the fee off the first client. Some towns you're only getting 1 maybe 2 clients each hotel night. With many clients being unable to host (and for some reason not having many contacting from hotels either), it's like the whole sightseein experience of being able to travel city to city and seeing clients along the way is becoming less worth the money and time being put into it.

Mocha what state to you escort from. Just curious. I do not see a link to your RM or page anywhere.

[wklucas]

Mocha what state to you escort from. Just curious. I do not see a link to your RM or page anywhere.

 

at the moment, errrr at this second - his current escort alias is jarrod brandon.......aka, among many, many, many others - joey bryant.

 

https://rent.men/Jarrod_Brandon

[+ freecahill1965]

at the moment, errrr at this second - his current escort alias is jarrod brandon.......aka, among many, many, many others - joey bryant.

 

https://rent.men/Jarrod_Brandon

Thanks

[BearBill]

It's not normal without arranging that with you in advance. You should feel free to contact him now and ask him what the total fee is. You shouldn't feel like you need to carry extra cash around 'just in case'.

Thanks for the great advice worked perfectly. He was very open and informative. I'm more at easy now.

[MikeyGMin]

I'm new to hiring, my first time is tomorrow. He is getting a hotel near me, he didn't say if I should pay for the room.

What is the norm? Now that I think about I'll bring extra money just in case.

Btw I cant host because my brother lives with me in my home.

If he rented the room just for your appointment, and it turns out to be a good time, it's nice to keep his expense in mind when deciding whether to tip and how much.

[BearBill]

Yes, i plan on makimg it worth his time and effort to book a room. That he didnt ask makes me want to help with room cost all the more.

[desertguy1954]

I do not host. When reading an escorts ad, if he says out calls only I do not contact him. Once, an escort had forgot to put that in his ad, so when I asked if he hosted he said no. He stated that he would get the hotel room and would pay for it. He asked me to promise that I would show. I did and had a great time. When I left, I tipped extra to help with the hotel room. He noticed and said thanks.

[+ WhamIAm]

I do not host. When reading an escorts ad, if he says out calls only I do not contact him. Once, an escort had forgot to put that in his ad, so when I asked if he hosted he said no. He stated that he would get the hotel room and would pay for it. He asked me to promise that I would show. I did and had a great time. When I left, I tipped extra to help with the hotel room. He noticed and said thanks.

 

I'm in DC and don't invite guys to my home first time I meet up with them unless they have a stellar reputation or I've had a recommendation from someone I trust. (Plus, I usually have to get a hotel room (board) my dog since Bradley always whimpers at the door if he's not invited in. Apparently he's a bit of a prude.) I figure most visiting guys have a hotel room during their stay. If not and I'm reeeeeeeeeally interested, I'll rent a room. I had one guy tell me he'd use his frequent stay points to get us a room. As in desertguys case, we had an awesome time and his tip reflected half of what the room charge would have been above my usual gratuity. (And, he's since seen every room of my house, usually from his knees or on his back.)

 

BTW, I don't invite in-town guys to my home first time around the block either. I'm even more apprehensive of a local who turns out to be a flake knowing where I live.

Edited September 12, 2017 by WhamIAm

[Bucky]

I don't think I've ever heard an escort whine about virtually everything in this (more specifically, his) business as much as Mocha...

 

Yet embarrassingly, I've become super entertained by all his never-ending frustration.

Edited September 11, 2017 by Bucky

[+ Phactor]

I can't host. When I find the right companion, I reserve and pay for the hotel.

[+ freecahill1965]

I am happy to pay for a nice hotel. To be honest, I will only do an incall if I have been with the escort before and feel comfortable with them.

[+ DickyF]

I may be crazy but I have almost always hosted- even with those escorts I haven't met. This includes in my home as well as hotel rooms when I've traveled.

It's a calculated risk.

For those who prefer to travel for safety reasons - do you only travel to their hotels? Would you travel to their home? It seems to me that's just as risky.

I think this relevant since it could be a factor in the OP's question.