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This is why I pay them, in my case, it is so I can have sex with much more sexy than the guys my age.

We disagree on several other things, but not on this. It has nothing to do with a lack of self-esteem. Of course there are young men out there who are attracted to old(er) men, but to say there are "plenty" of them is wishful thinking in my world. Ten to 15 years is reasonably common, but over that is about as common as a 5 karat diamond.

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I'm not talking about the politics of the thing, but it always bothers me a little when somebody states emphatically that he has no attraction to men over 30. It almost seems that some are positively repelled by men over 30. But since they themselves are men over 30, I always wonder what they must think of themselves, since they belong to this age group that they find so repellant. The contradiction of belonging to an age group that one is repelled by is bound to result in at least a little self loathing - at least it seems so. Maybe I don't know what I'm talking about.

I've noticed the most common bias on here is older on older

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The problem is when you project your needs and your self esteem to everyone else and pretend to be the voice of realism. You are wrong. Even if you do not find older men attractive, even if I do not, there are plenty of young men who do.

As someone else said before, ultimately age is an after thought. You feel attraction or you don't. Another label to blur our understanding.

I agree with whoever said this sounded wishful

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Call that self loathing if you want, I call that realist, and it seems the world agrees with me (on my lack of sexyness).

Repellant is a little stronger than how I feel, but yeah, in short: I don't think I'm sexy. I would not have sex with myself (or a clone, or an equivalent of me, whatever you imagine) unless I was in love.

 

I can however, have sex with men I find very sexy even though I'm not in love with them.

 

This is why I pay them, in my case, it is so I can have sex with much more sexy than the guys my age. I pay them, in part, because all the guys their age do not find me sexy enough to have sex with me for free. They agree with me: I'm not very sexy, but they'll do it for money.

 

Call that self loathing if you want, I call that realist, and it seems the world agrees with me (on my lack of sexyness).

 

When you are in love, however, all bets are off: My husband is roughly my age.

 

 

I feel really fortunate that I'm attracted to men my own age. When I hire, it isn't for him to make me feel sexy. It's more to get an opportunity to appreciate him.

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But you said yourself that the world seemed to agree with you.

Yes. I was being sarcastic to @Eric Hassan .

 

He implies that "You think it is true that you are not sexy, therefore you look for evidence of that in the world".

 

But I point out that, given that I am not getting free sex with young guys, I do have the most obvious of the possible types of evidence. Unless he implies that I reject opportunities of sex with young guys.

And to what purpose would I do that ? Just to make a point about being right?

 

That would be silly. I am not rejecting sex when I can get it.

 

The simplest explanation is the most likely:

I'm not getting free sex from young guys because I'm not very sexy, to most of them (not all, I know, I know).

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Yes. I was being sarcastic to @Eric Hassan .

 

He implies that "You think it is true that you are not sexy, therefore you look for evidence of that in the world".

 

But I point out that, given that I am not getting free sex with young guys, I do have the most obvious of the possible types of evidence. Unless he implies that I reject opportunities of sex with young guys.

And to what purpose would I do that ? Just to make a point about being right?

 

That would be silly. I am not rejecting sex when I can get it.

 

The simplest explanation is the most likely:

I'm not getting free sex from young guys because I'm not very sexy, to most of them (not all, I know, I know).

 

You'll find this hopelessly new-age-y, especially when I tell you that it comes from Jonathan Livingston Seagull, but I'm going to offer it anyway. One of my favorite mottoes is

 

"Argue in favor of your limitations, and, sure enough, they are yours."

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You'll find this hopelessly new-age-y, especially when I tell you that it comes from Jonathan Livingston Seagull, but I'm going to offer it anyway. One of my favorite mottoes is

 

"Argue in favor of your limitations, and, sure enough, they are yours."

That was one of my favorite Chicago restaurants

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"Argue in favor of your limitations, and, sure enough, they are yours."

I am not sure what the advice is here.

  • Do not try to find out what are your limitations?
  • Find out, but then ignore your limitations?
     
  • Know your limitations, but never talk about it to other people?
  • Know your limitations, but then only ever talk about it in a negative way?
     
  • Something else?

 

About this whole discussion, @Rudynate

You were asking how we felt about ourselves. I tried to provide an answer, using the only example I know well enough: myself. You could just have said "thanks for being honest, your situation doesn't apply to me but now I understand better how you and I are different".

But all I read is attempts to tell me I am wrong.

 

Guys, if you are feeling sexy, great! Fantastic, even! Enjoy it! I will never tell you you are wrong. Since sexiness is highly subjective, that would be completely insane of me to tell you you are not sexy.

And since I have never met you, that would be triply insane, since I can't even judge you by my own standard, let alone by your own standard!

 

And to all the older escorts: you are beautiful, guys, in the eyes of many, many clients. Not me, but I am only only one client among tens of thousands. I don't even hire that much. Please do not consider what I think to be significant for your plans.

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"Argue in favor of your limitations, and, sure enough, they are yours."

I am not sure what the advice is here.

  • Do not try to find out what are your limitations?
  • Find out, but then ignore your limitations?
     
  • Know your limitations, but never talk about it to other people?
  • Know your limitations, but then only ever talk about it in a negative way?
     
  • Something else?

 

About this whole discussion, @Rudynate

You were asking how we felt about ourselves. I tried to provide an answer, using the only example I know well enough: myself. You could just have said "thanks for being honest, your situation doesn't apply to me but now I understand better how you and I are different".

But all I read is attempts to tell me I am wrong.

 

Guys, if you are feeling sexy, great! Fantastic, even! Enjoy it! I will never tell you you are wrong. Since sexiness is highly subjective, that would be completely insane of me to tell you you are not sexy.

And since I have never met you, that would be triply insane, since I can't even judge you by my own standard, let alone by your own standard!

 

And to all the older escorts: you are beautiful, guys, in the eyes of many, many clients. Not me, but I am only only one client among tens of thousands. I don't even hire that much. Please do not consider what I think to be significant for your plans.

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I am not sure what the advice is here.

  • Do not try to find out what are your limitations?
  • Find out, but then ignore your limitations?
     
  • Know your limitations, but never talk about it to other people?
  • Know your limitations, but then only ever talk about it in a negative way?
     
  • Something else?

 

About this whole discussion, @Rudynate

You were asking how we felt about ourselves. I tried to provide an answer, using the only example I know well enough: myself. You could just have said "thanks for being honest, your situation doesn't apply to me but now I understand better how you and I are different".

But all I read is attempts to tell me I am wrong.

 

Guys, if you are feeling sexy, great! Fantastic, even! Enjoy it! I will never tell you you are wrong. Since sexiness is highly subjective, that would be completely insane of me to tell you you are not sexy.

And since I have never met you, that would be triply insane, since I can't even judge you by my own standard, let alone by your own standard!

 

And to all the older escorts: you are beautiful, guys, in the eyes of many, many clients. Not me, but I am only only one client among tens of thousands. I don't even hire that much Please do not consider what I think to be significant for your plans.

 

 

You're absolutely right. My apologies. It is presumptuous to offer help when it wasn't asked for.

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I am not sure what the advice is here.

  • Do not try to find out what are your limitations?
  • Find out, but then ignore your limitations?
     
  • Know your limitations, but never talk about it to other people?
  • Know your limitations, but then only ever talk about it in a negative way?
     
  • Something else?

 

About this whole discussion, @Rudynate

You were asking how we felt about ourselves. I tried to provide an answer, using the only example I know well enough: myself. You could just have said "thanks for being honest, your situation doesn't apply to me but now I understand better how you and I are different".

But all I read is attempts to tell me I am wrong.

 

Guys, if you are feeling sexy, great! Fantastic, even! Enjoy it! I will never tell you you are wrong. Since sexiness is highly subjective, that would be completely insane of me to tell you you are not sexy.

And since I have never met you, that would be triply insane, since I can't even judge you by my own standard, let alone by your own standard!

 

And to all the older escorts: you are beautiful, guys, in the eyes of many, many clients. Not me, but I am only only one client among tens of thousands. I don't even hire that much Please do not consider what I think to be significant for your plans.

 

 

You're absolutely right. My apologies. It is presumptuous to offer help when it wasn't asked for.

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