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I’m sure he avoided this post when he saw how hot a fucking mess it turned into like everything else on here.

 

As he well should. This unfortunate little spat developed when I sought to keep the thread from derailing into a war over whether Kerry should chastise his clients for being rude to other Adonis dancers, as Big Ric alleged. What would Kerry or any other dancer in such a situation have to gain from entering into that? Even assuming that the charge holds true as to some clients, how could Kerry be held responsible for that? Would he or any other dancer seriously lecture clients on such an issue?

 

I've been going to Adonis events in both NYC and LA since they started up some 8-plus years ago, and I make it a point to be very respectful to all of the dancers I meet, whether or not I accept a dance with them. That being said, I wouldn't take kindly to one of my regular dancers approaching me to say that some other dancer talked smack about me not being nice enough to him. That's a good way to lose a regular client.

 

The Adonis manager of each spot is the one to whom clients and dancers should report any issues about respect and decorum. I've personally witnessed Tim and Matt handle several such issues. Since it strikes me as unrealistic that a dancer would or could address this, that's why I thought that this was less a serious gripe, but more an expression of venting. That's also why I thought this topic should have been handled in its own thread if the proponent felt that strongly about it. It's spilt milk at this point, but I think it's safe to say that staying out of this dispute was a wise move on Kerry's part.

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BigRic, might I suggest you seek out a psychological evaluation. Your ranting and raving here is a clear sign of needing help.

 

Having read, and re-read, the thread I have a different take. While it would have been wise for Ric to be more restrained, you know there's something going on with Strafe who's said he's attempted to apologize both privately and publicly several times. That's obviously a touch-point for Ric. Whatever the issue, it's something that isn't sitting well. As far as the other comments about him, I'd just suggest that it's a little too easy to psychoanalyze from behind a keyboard.

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Having read, and re-read, the thread I have a different take. While it would have been wise for Ric to be more restrained, you know there's something going on with Strafe who's said he's attempted to apologize both privately and publicly several times. That's obviously a touch-point for Ric. Whatever the issue, it's something that isn't sitting well. As far as the other comments about him, I'd just suggest that it's a little too easy to psychoanalyze from behind a keyboard.

 

I can't fathom what the "something" is that's going on with me vis-a-vis Ric. I've met him only once in person at an Adonis show in LA, it was fleeting, and I did not reveal to him my online persona. We've also never had any significant interaction before on this forum. And despite Ric's calling me a Kerry Slate fanboy, I've also never met him, nor have I been involved in any other forum discussion where I've irrationally defended or fawned over Kerry, so as to warrant that derisive label.

 

I apologized to Ric because it seemed like I inadvertently offended him. The overreaction and hostility he's displayed, coupled with his refusal to accept my apology even when he acknowledged that my heart was in the right place, is genuinely confusing.

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Perhaps you SHOULD have stayed out of it, because my comment is in response to BigRic referring to me as a dick for no reason.

 

Nooooo...He didn't call you a "dick" for no reason, he called you a "dick" after you jumped in with your pathetic response of "I have no dog in this race" when you clearly did, when you accused him of being a "troll" and accused him of pretending to be "one of the girls". Don't start shit, you won't get shit.

 

As a third party observer with no dog in this race, BigRic does lurk in the threads of other escorts, most notably Ryan Steel, and, IMHO, trolls for business. Pretends to be just one of the girls. So I'm not shocked about the drama here, under the theory that any publicity is good publicity.
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Another armchair quarterback with twisted facts and a flair for the dramatic. I meant that I had no dog with respect to the long running, name calling feud between the two of them. And I pointed out the obvious about his trolling/posts--they're there for anyone to see.

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I can't fathom what the "something" is that's going on with me vis-a-vis Ric. I've met him only once in person at an Adonis show in LA, it was fleeting, and I did not reveal to him my online persona. We've also never had any significant interaction before on this forum. And despite Ric's calling me a Kerry Slate fanboy, I've also never met him, nor have I been involved in any other forum discussion where I've irrationally defended or fawned over Kerry, so as to warrant that derisive label.

 

I apologized to Ric because it seemed like I inadvertently offended him. The overreaction and hostility he's displayed, coupled with his refusal to accept my apology even when he acknowledged that my heart was in the right place, is genuinely confusing.

 

It's too bad that you can't "fathom" the "something". I didn't perceive Ric to dis Kerry, not suggest your a "fan boy".

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It's too bad that you can't "fathom" the "something". I didn't perceive Ric to dis Kerry, not suggest your a "fan boy".

 

First, you probably just missed it in such a long thread, but Ric said I reacted like a fanboy in or around post #36. Second, I don't believe I ever said that Ric straight up dissed Kerry, and I'm not sure that's what happened here anyway. When Ric suggested that Kerry ask his Adonis clients to not be rude to other dancers, I interpreted that as either indirect shade at Kerry, or direct shade at Kerry's clients, none of whom I knew for sure are even forum members. Reasonable minds can disagree on how to interpret Ric's remark. I thought it was a bit petty and kind of funny, but when Ric took offense to that, I apologized, and did so repeatedly. There's no reason it should have gone beyond that.

 

Ric also mischaracterized my posts when he accused me of offering only a private apology after publicly offending him. That was unfair because at that point I'd already publically apologized twice on the thread. He even went so far as to say that I've always had the means to initiate a private conversation to smoothe things over, even though the feature appears to be blocked on his profile. I'd like to give Ric the benefit of the doubt, but if he knew that he couldn't or wouldn't receive private conversation requests (either from me or anyone else) then his proclamation was wholly disingenuous.

 

By "something," I meant something to warrant the kind of overreaction displayed here, including the rejection of sincere attempts at both public and private apologies for this relatively minor offense. Ric's reaction here seems more consistent with someone with whom he's had some long negative history. Like I explained earlier, he and I had no such history, and the one time we'd met quite a while back was a very brief, but positive encounter. That's why I'm confused about this whole thing. Oh well, every day is a learning experience.

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