Fin Fang Foom Is Shocked - SHOCKED!

[taylorky]

>>what the hell else would you call someone that either can't

>or

>>won't show the common decency to at least wait until they

>get

>>home to start with the monkey sex.

>

>Honestly, kids these days. They just don't have a CLUE as to

>what fun is all about!!! :-(

>

>But in that case, I guess you can start calling everyone else

>here a fag, too, because their sexual tastes are different

>than yours. Of course, we can do the same to you. So

>there!!!

 

 

i can't believe you don't get it.

it has nothing to do with sexual taste...it's all about self respect and respect for others.

 

i don't believe ,that anyone has the right to do anything they wish anywhere they wish to do it.

 

a mark of civilized people living in a civilized society is their ability to control themselves at times,if a venue is intended for nonsexual activites then respect the other patrons of that venue.

how can y'all be so uncaring of other peoples sensiblities.

[trilingual]

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>Yeah, it is so revolting to want to use the steamroom for its

>original purpose. Tri it!

 

Gee, sometimes at my gym (back in a long lost San Francisco where gay gyms weren't JUST for weightlifting) or in the sex bath houses I've sometimes used the steamroom or saunas for their original purpose! Actually, more than some times -- besides the sexual attractions I also LIKE a good shvitz and almost always spend time in the steam or heat! Many's the time I was quietly steaming away when some other guys decided to give in to their urges. It never once occurred to me that I should be fazed, or upset, or "offended", or that I should work myself up into a frothing state over it, let alone start considering lawsuits!!! :o I was able to enjoy my sauna or steambath with the added benefit of live entertainment (at least, if the guys were hot) without the least infringement on my ability to use the steamroom for its "original purpose." (I think it was the Romans who invented steambaths, and, as I recall, one of the "original purposes" was also a certain amount of sexual activity!) If I wasn't enthralled by the live act going on I could just close my eyes, or shift my seat to look in another direction, or whatever. But it never stopped me from enjoying the steamroom or sauna, and I never felt the slightest urge to run out of the place screaming like a dishonored virgin just because someone else decided to have sex in my presence in a place where I knew such things happened!!! If that's the way one is supposed to behave in such situations, I should have been having public shit fits everytime I was at a movie theater with straight couples smooching and groping each other in my presence, or whenever a straight sex scene (which I personally find nausea-producing) flashed on the screen!!! Think of the lawsuits I've missed out on. And I haven't even started getting into what makes up the mysterious sticky substance on movie theater floors!

 

Life isn't pristine and antiseptic and flavorless and organized in neatly segregated pigeonholes labeled "sex" and "no sex." It's also not sterile and rigid and joyless. Or have I just been having so much fun all these years that I missed something?

[ErikMcAlister]

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WHAT WORD DID YOU USE????

Can you admit that you're wrong, or not?

What fucking word did you use???

[ErikMcAlister]

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Did you say "escorting"???

[ErikMcAlister]

Still going to claim that you didn't say escorting?????

[trilingual]

Erik, I'm retired and don't have to get up in the morning. Don't you have a law school to go to tomorrow? Last I noticed, they made a rather big deal in law school about not going to or sleeping through class!!! We're in the same time zone, and it's after midnight, and this is a "school night." So just take your Ritalin and say nighty-night!

 

However, since you insist on being petulant and obsessive and tiresome, I did use the word "escorting." In one of the very next postings I also said I usually use it as a less-pejorative term for "prostitution." But "escorting" = "prostitution" in the real world, as you'll discover real fast if you're ever busted for your extra-curricular activities. And I don't think there's a snowball's chance in a New Orleans summer that you'll be able to convince a Louisiana judge or jury that there's some meaningful fine distinction between the two. You'll be able to continue making those arguments in your appeals, though, after conviction. I suspect they aren't likely to get a very favorable hearing, either, in the Pelican State.

 

Sweet dreams, cupcake! }(

[Guest]

>Just saw an interesting statistic by the California State

>Chamber of Commerce..... for every $10 California residents

>pay for health care ( doctors fees, hospital costs, lab

>costs, etc) $1.50 goes to pay liability insurance premiums.

>I imagine it's similiar in New York.

 

Actually, medical liability insurance premiums in California are among the lowest in the nation thanks to MICRA which puts a $250,000 cap on non-economic damages. Costs are spirally out of control in states without caps on non-economic damages (one of the worst off is Florida, and I think New York has it pretty badly, too). One of my most impressing memories from my last trip to NYC less than two years ago consists of all of the ambulance-chasing ads encouraging parents of children with birth defects to sue their doctors with the promise of massive financial rewards. I have never seen a single ad like that in California.

[Guest zipperzone]

>Exactly. Does gay always have to be equated with public,

>random sex acts. Jesus. Let's denounce this shit. It's a

>gym. Are gay owned and frequented restaurants expected to

>have servers blowing customers under the table?

 

Depends on how big a tip they expect..... and I'll bet it has happened!

[Guest zipperzone]

>OMG. Erik and I agree again. This guy should be tossed out

>of a GYM for what? Not wanting to participate in, and/or

>witness public sex? This would only bolster his complaint.

>Stupid.

 

It has nothing to do about his being tossed out. He decided the gym wasn't for him because he didn't like what he saw going on and asked for his membership to be cancelled and his fee refunded.

 

For $900 the gym could have saved all this hoo-haw! Talk about making a bad business decision.....

[Guest zipperzone]

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>I strongly suggest you learn to read more carefully and to

>quote more accurately. You'll find it a big help in getting

>through law school and in your later career (assuming you're

>never convicted for "escorting" and barred from being a

>lawyer).

 

What I really find funny is that Eric, whom we all know is DC Ethan posting under a different name, earns his living by being a hooker, while trying to get his law degree (or so he claims).

 

Now isn't there something slightly incongrous about a lawyer who is supposed to uphold the law, flagrently thumbing his nose at it as he fucks his way around the country screwing men for money?

 

To use his own phrase........

 

"Sometimes I'm just amazed"

[trilingual]

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>What I really find funny is that Eric, whom we all know is DC

>Ethan posting under a different name, earns his living by

>being a hooker, while trying to get his law degree (or so he

>claims).

 

Actually, I'm on Erik/Ethan's side on this one! Over the years I've known many handsome/hung young men who "worked their way through school" selling their, um, assets. It's no more "funny" or "ironic" than trying to get a degree, even a law degree, in a state where sodomy was illegal. How many lawyers in the U.S. do you think broke that law regularly as they were going to law school or pursuing their careers?

 

I don't have the slightest problem, from a moral standpoint, with the way Eric/Ethan earns his living. I don't think prostitution, per se, is "wrong," and I believe it should be legal and regulated, as all other businesses are. But it's NOT legal in the U.S. (except in parts of Nevada) and for Eric/Ethan, or anyone else here, to delude themselves into believing it isn't just because they call it "escorting" is putting themselves at risk for unpleasant interactions with the legal system, just as most of us were when we had sex with other men in states that still had sodomy laws before Lawrence v. Texas!

 

I do have a problem, from a moral standpoint, with the hypocrisy and judgmentalism so often displayed here by some "escorts" and clients who spend hours slamming what other people enjoy doing and take entirely inappropriate and risible positions of moral superiority when they themselves regularly engage in activities that could land them in jail! Or sent straight to hell, if they believe in Falwellism.

[taylorky]

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>

>What I really find funny is that Eric, whom we all know is DC

>Ethan posting under a different name,

 

 

 

jeeesssshhhh...what i really find funny is that zipperzone,whom we all know as thunderbuns/fukamarine is posting under a different name.

[Guest zipperzone]

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>

>>

>>What I really find funny is that Eric, whom we all know is

>DC

>>Ethan posting under a different name,

>

>

>

>jeeesssshhhh...what i really find funny is that

>zipperzone,whom we all know as thunderbuns/fukamarine is

>posting under a different name.

 

Glad to know we're managing to keep you amused, although the task is not all that difficult when dealing with a 13 year old mind.

[Guest zipperzone]

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>I don't have the slightest problem, from a moral standpoint,

>with the way Eric/Ethan earns his living. I don't think

>prostitution, per se, is "wrong," and I believe it should be

>legal and regulated, as all other businesses are.

 

I agree with you as far as the moral issue re escorting/prostitution is concerned. It should not be illegal.

 

BUT..... it is! And here we have a guy claiming to be heading for a law degree, blatently breaking the law while doing so. Doesn't that strike you as a bit unusual - to say the least. And once he gets his degree, will he stop hooking? Hmmmmmmm

 

Frankly I think his morals are the shits. And not because he is hooking. It's because in my opinion he has no right to expect to be a member of the bar given his lack of respect for the law.

[Guest ChgoBoy]

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>>I don't have the slightest problem, from a moral

>standpoint,

>>with the way Eric/Ethan earns his living. I don't think

>>prostitution, per se, is "wrong," and I believe it should be

>>legal and regulated, as all other businesses are.

>

>I agree with you as far as the moral issue re

>escorting/prostitution is concerned. It should not be

>illegal.

>

>BUT..... it is! And here we have a guy claiming to be heading

>for a law degree, blatently breaking the law while doing so.

>Doesn't that strike you as a bit unusual - to say the least.

>And once he gets his degree, will he stop hooking? Hmmmmmmm

>

>Frankly I think his morals are the shits. And not because he

>is hooking. It's because in my opinion he has no right to

>expect to be a member of the bar given his lack of respect for

>the law.

>

>

Zipper....should you not be able to drive a car because you break the law and travel 5-10 mph over the limit? Should you not be permitted to go grocery shopping because you have 12 items in the 10 or less line? Should a police officer be denied employment because he drank when underage and smoked pot?I think you're argument is weak about his right to be a member of the bar. ALL men are imperfect. Im sure you have some skeletons in your closet too.

[+ Lucky]

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So, tri, you're sitting in the movie, enjoying the show, and suddenly you have an urge to call your best friend. Do you take out your cell phone and chatter away, or do you leave the theater to talk?

[Guest zipperzone]

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>Zipper....should you not be able to drive a car because you

>break the law and travel 5-10 mph over the limit? Should you

>not be permitted to go grocery shopping because you have 12

>items in the 10 or less line? Should a police officer be

>denied employment because he drank when underage and smoked

>pot?I think you're argument is weak about his right to be a

>member of the bar. ALL men are imperfect. Im sure you have

>some skeletons in your closet too.

 

You are completly missing my point, and you probably know that too!

 

The examples you give above have nothing to do with the point I was trying to make - not even close.

 

If you can't understand that a hooking lawyer is ethically challenged and your take on the matter is the norm for U.S. citizens - then there's not a lot of hope for the future of your law courts.

 

There was an outcry on this board when what's-his-name was revealed to be both a hooker and a journalist with access to the White House. Is a hooker/lawyer combo not just as disturbing to you. Evidently not.

[Guest ChgoBoy]

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>>Zipper....should you not be able to drive a car because you

>>break the law and travel 5-10 mph over the limit? Should you

>>not be permitted to go grocery shopping because you have 12

>>items in the 10 or less line? Should a police officer be

>>denied employment because he drank when underage and smoked

>>pot?I think you're argument is weak about his right to be a

>>member of the bar. ALL men are imperfect. Im sure you have

>>some skeletons in your closet too.

>

>You are completly missing my point, and you probably know that

>too!

>

>The examples you give above have nothing to do with the point

>I was trying to make - not even close.

>

>If you can't understand that a hooking lawyer is ethically

>challenged and your take on the matter is the norm for U.S.

>citizens - then there's not a lot of hope for the future of

>your law courts.

>

>There was an outcry on this board when what's-his-name was

>revealed to be both a hooker and a journalist with access to

>the White House. Is a hooker/lawyer combo not just as

>disturbing to you. Evidently not.

>

Zipper, I do get your point, I really do. But, where do you draw the line? If an attorney sodimizes (sp) his lover in Texas in their home at night, does that make him unfit to practice law? (sodomy is illegal in Tx) If an off duty cop smokes a joint on his day off in the privacy of his home, does that make him unfit to perform his duties? You cant pick and choose which laws it's ok to break in making your point. All these people uphold the law. I think it's dilusional (not necessarily yours) in the world we live in to think laws that support victimless crimes will be respected by those that have a different point of view. Politicians are sworn to uphold the constituition, but do you really believe that happens when there is a motion that sways in their favor/disfavor? Zipper, I think its just a im-perfect world and it will never be as you'd like it to be as long as victimless crimes and laws that prosecute them are on the books.

[trilingual]

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>So, tri, you're sitting in the movie, enjoying the show, and

>suddenly you have an urge to call your best friend. Do you

>take out your cell phone and chatter away, or do you leave the

>theater to talk?

 

Since I've never has such an urge, and would never do such a thing, I can only assume this is a hypothetical. But if you're trying to liken this to the steambath situation, for me it's apples and oranges, as I've already made clear in my previous responses. Chattering away on my cellphone in the middle of a movie would unquestionably interfere with the ability of all of the other patrons to hear the dialogue and concentrate on the film. Someone else deciding to start fooling around in a steamroom has never affected my ability or the ability of anyone else I ever saw there to sit there and sweat, so the situations aren't parallel. But nice try, though!

[Guest ChgoBoy]

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>>So, tri, you're sitting in the movie, enjoying the show,

>and

>>suddenly you have an urge to call your best friend. Do you

>>take out your cell phone and chatter away, or do you leave

>the

>>theater to talk?

>

>Since I've never has such an urge, and would never do such a

>thing, I can only assume this is a hypothetical. But if

>you're trying to liken this to the steambath situation, for me

>it's apples and oranges, as I've already made clear in my

>previous responses. Chattering away on my cellphone in the

>middle of a movie would unquestionably interfere with the

>ability of all of the other patrons to hear the dialogue and

>concentrate on the film. Someone else deciding to start

>fooling around in a steamroom has never affected my ability or

>the ability of anyone else I ever saw there to sit there and

>sweat, so the situations aren't parallel. But nice try,

>though!

>

I have to ademently disagree with you Tri. Ive been waiting for your response to this question. I am a gay man. I work out a a health club that I pay over 80 bucks a month to belong to. I am EXTREMELY uncomfortable when gay men start fucking around in the steamroom. Why? It just doesnt matter. I am. I couldnt think of a better question to ask as you were about the cell phone in the theater you just responded to. Its the same due respect. If gay men have no regard or understanding for what is acceptable sexual public behavior (that's what bathhouses are for)and impose their uncontrollable urges upon others that are in the steamroom for reasons that the steamroom was designed for in a public gym, then I can understand why people get upset. Gays are the first to scream when str8's impose their thought process upon them, God knows what would happen if we were forced to watch a str8 mans cock penetrate a wet, dripping, fowl, stinking pussy in front of them while they were simply just trying to get a health benefit from steam....Get real girl!

[bigjake8]

>Well, she took her marbles & marched away.

 

You know what, why don't you just shut the fuck up little boy, the grown-ups are talking right now.

 

Since I seem to be one of the few here that actually goes to David Barton Gym, allow me to make a few points.

 

The new gym is alot quiter sexually than the old one. There are security guys everywhere. One of the more novel ways they have stopped people from fucking is by making the steam room so dark that you cant even see who is next to you. While it may sound like an invitation to sex, it's really a damper, and it works. WHen the security guy comes in, you can't even tell. If you were to be getting it on, you'd be caught before you even knew it. The other room is co-ed, and as such, there are women in the room, so there is no sex there.

 

As far as the showers, the curtains are half length, so if anything does happen, its pretty easily caught.

 

Leering in the locker room? I usually just say hi and start talking about the weather...it's a great deflector. It works well in the steam room as well, just start talking, it will clear out the room very fast, I do it all the time.

[Guest ChgoBoy]

>You know what, why don't you just shut the fuck up little boy,

>the grown-ups are talking right now.

 

Very adult. I can see you majored in communication. Obviously, you have no connection to any other value than getting your nut when you see fit. How pathetic. Obviously, you're as old as Tri, because "this" generation values other things than what you find to be "old queer reality". There is a life outside of the alley, but then again, your vision is all about YOU.

[taylorky]

very well said chgo. nasty gutter queens like lil' jake are a real embarrassment to the majority of gay folks.

[taylorky]

>Well, she took her marbles & marched away.

 

 

LOL...it wasn't gone for long erik.

 

looks like lil' jake pulled a bag of marbles from his gaping nasty asshole and came back.

[bigjake8]

Gutter Queen? Now thats funny, in fact, thats what I'm paid for. Hows gutterqueenbodyworks.com sound?

 

As far as being an embarrasment, aren't you from Kentucky?

 

 

> nasty gutter queens like lil' jake are a real embarrassment

>to the majority of gay folks.