Do you believe being solely an escort is a job enough?

[Mocha]

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[kewtex]

Bless his heart.

[wolfgangdc]

You should start a blog

[Bearofdistinction]

I recently had to correct a client whom has for several months enticed me to get into another form of work, and to relocate to his area to be closer to his "assistance". As he has a good employment history and connections. Well, the time came last week that I began to move and he didn't offer a dime and rejected my asking for his assistance. I'm quite dismayed by his selfish and inconsiderate lack of support. Not that I'm desperate and needy for it...as the move was inevitable regardless since the lease me and a friend were on was not desired to be renewed. But the very fact that if he wants me to relocate and get a job and change my life so bad, then he should be willing to atleast finance some of the costs to relocate and make it a reality.

 

So my ultimate quandary is: if someone is going to be friends with and then eventually suggest an escort make a change, offer a viable alternative. Don't just talk about it and expect that person to not take that as saying, "get a job, and fuck me for free". It's humiliating and comes off as making someone feel abashed rather than inspired.

 

Instead of suggesting an escort to get a job, give that escort $1,000 or $2,000 to relocate to a better market or market themselves for an entire year. Or why not pay for an entire years membership for Rentmen or whatever. I hear about employed guys getting assistance, new cars, money in their pocket for tough times, etc from friends and guys they aren't even sleeping with all the time. But yet because I'm an escort and for whatever not viewed as having a job in the eyes of the American way...I'm made to feel like shit on a stick rather than a busy professional who just wants to succeed.

 

BOOBOOO - Now I admit I did not read the whole post because I find you overall to be a whiny nasty

 

- BUT IF Someone is willing to GIVE YOU a Good Paying

job that does not involve anything easily tracked to felonius behavior and pays close to 6 Figures - with benefits

THEN TAKE IT AND RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

For you are the unhappiest Escort that world has ever seen!!! RUN DO NOT WALK TO THIS JOB!!!

 

Based on your long and torturous cavalcade of stories - racist deplorables - overall nasty treatment - etc --- MO MO you

are not cut out to be a Star In an industry that strives on Men who have marvelous souls - delightful levels of caring - hearts that belong to Social Workers and Nurses -- Wrapped into the lovely bodies sweet hearts and caring minds and above-average cocks of men who derive pleasure from and giving joy to other men in need of that care - caress and excitement --

 

You just never seem based on your own writings to be that kind of man -- Built - Hung - Yes -- No Qualms - But the rest. . .

[wklucas]

If you ever lived close by to me, I would pay you to move away.....the farther away, the more I would pay.

[Beancounter]

Dallas doesn't need anymore escorts. Stay away. I heard that there's plenty of demand for escorts in Guam, though.

[MikeBiDude]

Here we go from another "I'm done with this place, bye..."

The ultimate and extremely unhappy with himself and his life "bad penny"

[Larstrup]

[marylander1940]

I recently had to correct a client whom has for several months enticed me to get into another form of work, and to relocate to his area to be closer to his "assistance". As he has a good employment history and connections. Well, the time came last week that I began to move and he didn't offer a dime and rejected my asking for his assistance. I'm quite dismayed by his selfish and inconsiderate lack of support. Not that I'm desperate and needy for it...as the move was inevitable regardless since the lease me and a friend were on was not desired to be renewed. But the very fact that if he wants me to relocate and get a job and change my life so bad, then he should be willing to atleast finance some of the costs to relocate and make it a reality.

 

So my ultimate quandary is: if someone is going to be friends with and then eventually suggest an escort make a change, offer a viable alternative. Don't just talk about it and expect that person to not take that as saying, "get a job, and fuck me for free". It's humiliating and comes off as making someone feel abashed rather than inspired.

 

Instead of suggesting an escort to get a job, give that escort $1,000 or $2,000 to relocate to a better market or market themselves for an entire year. Or why not pay for an entire years membership for Rentmen or whatever. I hear about employed guys getting assistance, new cars, money in their pocket for tough times, etc from friends and guys they aren't even sleeping with all the time. But yet because I'm an escort and for whatever not viewed as having a job in the eyes of the American way...I'm made to feel like shit on a stick rather than a busy professional who just wants to succeed.

 

 

Mocha,

 

From reading the information in your posting, the only conclusion available to me is that you are living within a misguided sense of entitlement. Your client's willingness to put his reputation on the line by recommending you for employment is a very generous gift. Your expectations/demands for the financing of your move and/or escort advertising expenses are unrealistic in this situation.

 

I don't know your age, however, the resentments and disappointments expressed in your posting suggest that you are struggling within immaturity. Your desire to be regarded as "a busy professional who just wants to succeed" will require you to assume a more professional attitudinal posture along with the work and responsibilities it will require.

 

I wish you well going forward.

 

I understand your point, and God knows I had my disagreements with @Mocha but I think in this precise case the client was just being cheap and he wanted to get him closer to him.

 

Watch out @Mocha ... he might be a potential stalker!

[Mocha]

Without quoting everyone, I will write a blanket response/clarify.

 

I knew the whole entitlement clause would come about. It's not entitlement, it's what he told me. He told me last week that if there's anyway he could help, to let him know. ANY WAY. But upon my asking later, he says "if it's related to career finding". Well that's a stark contrast between what he originally said.

 

Also, this person doesn't have a particular job waiting for me. It's all speculative and within a range of available jobs. It's not guaranteed. He wants me to move 1,800 miles, pay for that and pay for myself a place to live before I even get the first interview. And employers are going to want to know you're already local and gone Thru the process to move. Or, he suggested I get into the job first, and then once I'm (hypothetically) accepted, to go ahead and then continue with the moving process...while I'm working. Meaning I'd have to take a week or 2 off (which usually isn't granted when you first start a job).

 

Now I know there's ways around it, but again with the financing to do it...I might as well do the whole process myself. I don't need him to hold my hand to find a job and turn my life around. I've worked lots of regular jobs before that I found myself. So if I have to finance the whole thing myself, the job part is easy. In addition, does it not raise any suspicious as to why someone wants to put their discreetness on the line and get an escort back to regular employment?

 

And yes, this particular client is not a big spender. Yes bless his heart he has been generous to a T, but it's small bits here and there. Whereas one week I met him, another client gave me $1,000. Yet for him, the financial savvy one...he won't even invest that much into my business without giving me a lecture (about how other guys have burnt him in the past which signals to me a lack of trust). And the one time I really needed it...during the time of the move, he offered to invest financially in my move...then retracted it the very next day.

 

There's no immaturity or entitlement on my part. If someone suggests a person needs to change or make a drastic move, invest in that. People always want to talk about shit but ain't spending shit. If it's so important, then they need to pay for it. Whether it's my clothes, where I live or what other jobs I should do to support myself and basically be like everybody else. Shut the fuck up. Or don't make a suggestion. Let me make my money the way I choose to make it.

[YoungAD]

Without quoting everyone, I will write a blanket response/clarify.

 

I knew the whole entitlement clause would come about. It's not entitlement, it's what he told me. He told me last week that if there's anyway he could help, to let him know. ANY WAY. But upon my asking later, he says "if it's related to career finding". Well that's a stark contrast between what he originally said.

 

Also, this person doesn't have a particular job waiting for me. It's all speculative and within a range of available jobs. It's not guaranteed. He wants me to move 1,800 miles, pay for that and pay for myself a place to live before I even get the first interview. And employers are going to want to know you're already local and gone Thru the process to move. Or, he suggested I get into the job first, and then once I'm (hypothetically) accepted, to go ahead and then continue with the moving process...while I'm working. Meaning I'd have to take a week or 2 off (which usually isn't granted when you first start a job).

 

Now I know there's ways around it, but again with the financing to do it...I might as well do the whole process myself. I don't need him to hold my hand to find a job and turn my life around. I've worked lots of regular jobs before that I found myself. So if I have to finance the whole thing myself, the job part is easy. In addition, does it not raise any suspicious as to why someone wants to put their discreetness on the line and get an escort back to regular employment?

 

And yes, this particular client is not a big spender. Yes bless his heart he has been generous to a T, but it's small bits here and there. Whereas one week I met him, another client gave me $1,000. Yet for him, the financial savvy one...he won't even invest that much into my business without giving me a lecture (about how other guys have burnt him in the past which signals to me a lack of trust). And the one time I really needed it...during the time of the move, he offered to invest financially in my move...then retracted it the very next day.

 

There's no immaturity or entitlement on my part. If someone suggests a person needs to change or make a drastic move, invest in that. People always want to talk about shit but ain't spending shit. If it's so important, then they need to pay for it. Whether it's my clothes, where I live or what other jobs I should do to support myself and basically be like everybody else. Shut the fuck up. Or don't make a suggestion. Let me make my money the way I choose to make it.

 

What exactly is your point by posting this interaction with your client? A warning to other clients who might suggest the same and dangle a carrot? You alternate between an attitude of famine and desperation, with the braggadocio of an escort who is actually popular. I cannot believe these sorts of events happen to you with a frequency that could even jokingly be considered "regular."

 

According to the other escorts who (used to) post in the Forum, all the working boys are contacted here and there by flakes. Brush it off or laugh it off and move on. You seem to have a lingering bad taste for every client who looks at you wrong, even if your perception is based off mistakes that you have made yourself (e.g. the lost lube).

[Mount N Do]

Without quoting everyone, I will write a blanket response/clarify.

 

I knew the whole entitlement clause would come about. It's not entitlement, it's what he told me. He told me last week that if there's anyway he could help, to let him know. ANY WAY. But upon my asking later, he says "if it's related to career finding". Well that's a stark contrast between what he originally said.

 

Also, this person doesn't have a particular job waiting for me. It's all speculative and within a range of available jobs. It's not guaranteed. He wants me to move 1,800 miles, pay for that and pay for myself a place to live before I even get the first interview. And employers are going to want to know you're already local and gone Thru the process to move. Or, he suggested I get into the job first, and then once I'm (hypothetically) accepted, to go ahead and then continue with the moving process...while I'm working. Meaning I'd have to take a week or 2 off (which usually isn't granted when you first start a job).

 

Now I know there's ways around it, but again with the financing to do it...I might as well do the whole process myself. I don't need him to hold my hand to find a job and turn my life around. I've worked lots of regular jobs before that I found myself. So if I have to finance the whole thing myself, the job part is easy. In addition, does it not raise any suspicious as to why someone wants to put their discreetness on the line and get an escort back to regular employment?

 

And yes, this particular client is not a big spender. Yes bless his heart he has been generous to a T, but it's small bits here and there. Whereas one week I met him, another client gave me $1,000. Yet for him, the financial savvy one...he won't even invest that much into my business without giving me a lecture (about how other guys have burnt him in the past which signals to me a lack of trust). And the one time I really needed it...during the time of the move, he offered to invest financially in my move...then retracted it the very next day.

 

There's no immaturity or entitlement on my part. If someone suggests a person needs to change or make a drastic move, invest in that. People always want to talk about shit but ain't spending shit. If it's so important, then they need to pay for it. Whether it's my clothes, where I live or what other jobs I should do to support myself and basically be like everybody else. Shut the fuck up. Or don't make a suggestion. Let me make my money the way I choose to make it.

So if you think he's victimizing you don't be his victim. Typically people won't walk over you if you don't pretend to be a doormat. Personally. I think you're a troll. I think you actually like coming on here to yank chains.

[marylander1940]

What exactly is your point by posting this interaction with your client? A warning to other clients who might suggest the same and dangle a carrot? You alternate between an attitude of famine and desperation, with the braggadocio of an escort who is actually popular. I cannot believe these sorts of events happen to you with a frequency that could even jokingly be considered "regular."

 

According to the other escorts who (used to) post in the Forum, all the working boys are contacted here and there by flakes. Brush it off or laugh it off and move on. You seem to have a lingering bad taste for every client who looks at you wrong, even if your perception is based off mistakes that you have made yourself (e.g. the lost lube).

 

 

He simply wanted to share something that happened to him with all of us. You should try that one day.

 

We always have the right to ignore if we're not interested.

[Nvr2Thick]

I recently had to correct a client whom has for several months enticed me to get into another form of work, and to relocate to his area to be closer to his "assistance". As he has a good employment history and connections. Well, the time came last week that I began to move and he didn't offer a dime and rejected my asking for his assistance. I'm quite dismayed by his selfish and inconsiderate lack of support. Not that I'm desperate and needy for it...as the move was inevitable regardless since the lease me and a friend were on was not desired to be renewed. But the very fact that if he wants me to relocate and get a job and change my life so bad, then he should be willing to atleast finance some of the costs to relocate and make it a reality.

 

So my ultimate quandary is: if someone is going to be friends with and then eventually suggest an escort make a change, offer a viable alternative. Don't just talk about it and expect that person to not take that as saying, "get a job, and fuck me for free". It's humiliating and comes off as making someone feel abashed rather than inspired.

 

Instead of suggesting an escort to get a job, give that escort $1,000 or $2,000 to relocate to a better market or market themselves for an entire year. Or why not pay for an entire years membership for Rentmen or whatever. I hear about employed guys getting assistance, new cars, money in their pocket for tough times, etc from friends and guys they aren't even sleeping with all the time. But yet because I'm an escort and for whatever not viewed as having a job in the eyes of the American way...I'm made to feel like shit on a stick rather than a busy professional who just wants to succeed.

 

It's pretty clear from your account that this client's suggestion is largely about his ulterior motives. He likes you, and he's provided you with advice that he probably thinks is well-meaning; get what he might characterize as a real job. Really it sounds like he has a lot going on in his head, but his objective seems to be to a desire for you to be more like him, more available to him, and possibly beholden to him for straightening out your life. You already know this, but he's poison.

 

This thread appears to be less about the question you posed for the topic, "Do you believe being solely an escort is a job enough?" or about your last sentence than it is about this client's manipulations. The topic of how you feel about being an escort, or how you feel about how you are often perceived has come up several times. There's also the question of your endgame and where you see yourself in ten to twenty years. While being an escort may be enough now, developing an alternate career is hard enough but it is a bit easier when you're young.

[Mocha]

What exactly is your point by posting this interaction with your client? A warning to other clients who might suggest the same and dangle a carrot? You alternate between an attitude of famine and desperation, with the braggadocio of an escort who is actually popular. I cannot believe these sorts of events happen to you with a frequency that could even jokingly be considered "regular."

 

According to the other escorts who (used to) post in the Forum, all the working boys are contacted here and there by flakes. Brush it off or laugh it off and move on. You seem to have a lingering bad taste for every client who looks at you wrong, even if your perception is based off mistakes that you have made yourself (e.g. the lost lube).

 

If there's anything I've learned during my 1.5 years of living in the south it's to simply smile and say: "I'll pray for you, you're blessed. I'll stick the knife in your back later...."

 

So if you think he's victimizing you don't be his victim. Typically people won't walk over you if you don't pretend to be a doormat. Personally. I think you're a troll. I think you actually like coming on here to yank chains.

 

I'll pray for your understanding, but you too are blessed. But otherwise absolutely. As stated, I corrected him already therefore that doormat is actually a magic carpet. Flying the fuck away from that mother fucker.

[Mocha]

It's pretty clear from your account that this client's suggestion is largely about his ulterior motives. He likes you, and he's provided you with advice that he probably thinks is well-meaning; get what he might characterize as a real job. Really it sounds like he has a lot going on in his head, but his objective seems to be to a desire for you to be more like him, more available to him, and possibly beholden to him for straightening out your life. You already know this, but he's poison.

 

This thread appears to be less about the question you posed for the topic, "Do you believe being solely an escort is a job enough?" or about your last sentence than it is about this client's manipulations. The topic of how you feel about being an escort, or how you feel about how you are often perceived has come up several times. There's also the question of your endgame and where you see yourself in ten to twenty years. While being an escort may be enough now, developing an alternate career is hard enough but it is a bit easier when you're young.

 

One thing I will say, is yes an alternate career is inevitable but at the same time I also feel I will want to do that the next time I live on my own. With today's fluctuating market and app crap, it seems prudent to consider. Plus, I feel I am losing a bit of touch in some ways, and these nosy queens out here are always trying to find some T on somebody if you don't have a full employment line to give these bitches.

 

However, I don't like someone making it seem like regular work is going to be some promised land of stress free living. Really? And my client referred me to a call center job recently. I HATE call centers. I used to seek them out specifically, until I realized what a hostile environment they can be...mostly internally not to mention the people on the phone.

 

The reason why I asked if people can see being an escort is a job enough...is that some people seem to suggest it isn't. Like I'm not living a chosen life fulfilled and that I need to get out there and change my life and do normal shit: wake up before 9 am, sit in traffic, work 8-5, and basically be told what to do and make money for someone higher than thou. Which by all means if it works and I'm sure it does for 99% of the pop, great. But it should be a choice not a command.

 

Like I mentioned, an alternative to saying get a job could be to invest in the current career an escort already has. Unles said person does want an exit strategy or additional workload. A 1 month membership on rentmen would earn me money faster than Waiting days/weeks for an interview, getting hired, and then working 80 hours and waiting 2 weeks before I see the first paycheck.

 

The White guys out here have it made. Guys are taking them on trips, giving them thousands of dollars, and haven't even so much as pulled out the dick yet. But the non-white guy who's actually "fucking" doing shit is still being told to go to work. What kind of concept is that? Is everything not what I thought it was? If hard work pays off, then easy work is worthless?

[BabyBoomer]

The White guys out here have it made. Guys are taking them on trips, giving them thousands of dollars, and haven't even so much as pulled out the dick yet. But the non-white guy who's actually fucking doing shit is still being told to go to work. What kind of fucked up bullshit is that?

 

There you go again.

 

~Boomer~

[AquaNYC]

One thing I will say, is yes an alternate career is inevitable but at the same time I also feel I will want to do that the next time I live on my own. With today's fluctuating market and app crap, it seems prudent to consider. Plus, I feel I am losing a bit of touch in some ways, and these nosy queens out here are always trying to find some T on somebody if you don't have a full employment line to give these bitches.

 

However, I don't like someone making it seem like regular work is going to be some promised land of stress free living. Really? And my client referred me to a call center job recently. I HATE call centers. I used to seek them out specifically, until I realized what a hostile environment they can be...mostly internally not to mention the people on the phone.

 

The reason why I asked if people can see being an escort is a job enough...is that some people seem to suggest it isn't. Like I'm not living a chosen life fulfilled and that I need to get out there and change my life and do normal shit: wake up before 9 am, sit in traffic, work 8-5, and basically be told what to do and make money for someone higher than thou. Which by all means if it works and I'm sure it does for 99% of the pop, great. But it should be a choice not a command.

 

Like I mentioned, an alternative to saying get a job could be to invest in the current career an escort already has. Unles said person does want an exit strategy or additional workload. A 1 month membership on rentmen would earn me money faster than Waiting days/weeks for an interview, getting hired, and then working 80 hours and waiting 2 weeks before I see the first paycheck.

 

The White guys out here have it made. Guys are taking them on trips, giving them thousands of dollars, and haven't even so much as pulled out the dick yet. But the non-white guy who's actually "fucking" doing shit is still being told to go to work. What kind of concept is that? Is everything not what I thought it was? If hard work pays off, then easy work is worthless?

Sorry you have had these experiences. I can appreciate your frustration. Just offering one additional point of view, I don't think race has anything to do with it. I treat all escorts the same, and have loved my experiences with them all - all in their wonderful diversity (and by diversity, I don't mean just race).

[+ José Soplanucas]

And by "diversity", I don't mean just race.

Aqua, when you realize you made a mistake, or you stated something that is not clear, you can edit your post, you do not need a new one.

 

Not that there is anything wrong with what you just did. As you are new here, I just wanted to make sure you are aware we can edit our posts. Just click on the "Edit" link in the bottom right corner of your post.

[BaronArtz]

As you are new hear, ...

 

'hear' or 'here'? You could consider editing your own post before lecturing other people ...

[MikeBiDude]

There you go again.

 

~Boomer~

+1 it never ends with him, even when he says it does and says "goodbye"

[marylander1940]

 

The White guys out here have it made. Guys are taking them on trips, giving them thousands of dollars, and haven't even so much as pulled out the dick yet. But the non-white guy who's actually "fucking" doing shit is still being told to go to work. What kind of concept is that? Is everything not what I thought it was? If hard work pays off, then easy work is worthless?

 

I'm sorry but I think you're wrong on this subject... I'm aware that better looking guys are more like to charge more money, but not all handsome escorts get invited on trips, I know an escort based in SF who in his 50's and he gets flown constantly by clients.

 

You're assuming that white is beautiful, and beauty (and youth I guess) in the escort business = more success and I think you're wrong. Pornstars are mostly white and the media is bias towards whiter looking folks when it comes to what's consider beautiful, yet I've met a lot of handsome guys who weren't cut off for the job and other average looking guys who are very successful.

[+ José Soplanucas]

'hear' or 'here'? You could consider editing your own post before lecturing other people ...

 

Thank you, I just did.

 

EDIT: and I edit this post to show to the newbies what you can do. And to ask you @BaronArtz what a fuck is wrong with you. I was not lecturing, but making sure the newbies know all the tools they have available, as the clear friendly tone of my message communicates. My spelling and my grammar have much to improve, I am editing my posts all the time.

[Bearofdistinction]

If there's anything I've learned during my 1.5 years of living in the south it's to simply smile and say: "I'll pray for you, you're blessed. I'll stick the knife in your back later...."

 

THE ABOVE is what is called in the South -- Killin'em with Sugar - Sugah!

 

 

 

{/QUOTE}I'll pray for your understanding, but you too are blessed. But otherwise absolutely. As stated, I corrected him already therefore that doormat is actually a magic carpet. Flying the fuck away from that mother fucker.

Now that is what we call in the North --- B*TCHY C*NT!

[BaronArtz]

Thank you, I just did.

 

EDIT: and I edit this post to show to the newbies what you can do. And to ask you @BaronArtz what a fuck is wrong with you .

 

Let me explain it in the simplest possible way, so that there is a chance you may understand it: the fact that you react with such hostility to my comment means that I hit a nerve. Which is entirely as intended.

 

"What a fuck is wrong with you" is a phrase that needs some editing as well.

 

Good luck.