Do you believe being solely an escort is a job enough?

[+ José Soplanucas]

Let me explain it in the simplest possible way, so that there is a chance you may understand it: the fact that you react with such hostility to my comment means that I hit a nerve. Which is entirely as intended.

 

"What a fuck is wrong with you" is a phrase that needs some editing as well.

 

Good luck.

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[+ oldNbusted]

To answer the question in the subject, yes, obviously. To address the story in the OP, my take is the client may have some discomfort engaging personal services, so is looking for a guy he likes to phase into another career, so he can get down with that guy for free. But who know, maybe it's just controlling behavior...

[Bearofdistinction]

Without quoting everyone, I will write a blanket response/clarify.

 

I knew the whole entitlement clause would come about. It's not entitlement, it's what he told me. He told me last week that if there's anyway he could help, to let him know. ANY WAY. But upon my asking later, he says "if it's related to career finding". Well that's a stark contrast between what he originally said.

 

Also, this person doesn't have a particular job waiting for me. It's all speculative and within a range of available jobs. It's not guaranteed. He wants me to move 1,800 miles, pay for that and pay for myself a place to live before I even get the first interview. And employers are going to want to know you're already local and gone Thru the process to move. Or, he suggested I get into the job first, and then once I'm (hypothetically) accepted, to go ahead and then continue with the moving process...while I'm working. Meaning I'd have to take a week or 2 off (which usually isn't granted when you first start a job).

 

Now I know there's ways around it, but again with the financing to do it...I might as well do the whole process myself. I don't need him to hold my hand to find a job and turn my life around. I've worked lots of regular jobs before that I found myself. So if I have to finance the whole thing myself, the job part is easy. In addition, does it not raise any suspicious as to why someone wants to put their discreetness on the line and get an escort back to regular employment?

 

And yes, this particular client is not a big spender. Yes bless his heart he has been generous to a T, but it's small bits here and there. Whereas one week I met him, another client gave me $1,000. Yet for him, the financial savvy one...he won't even invest that much into my business without giving me a lecture (about how other guys have burnt him in the past which signals to me a lack of trust). And the one time I really needed it...during the time of the move, he offered to invest financially in my move...then retracted it the very next day.

 

There's no immaturity or entitlement on my part. If someone suggests a person needs to change or make a drastic move, invest in that. People always want to talk about shit but ain't spending shit. If it's so important, then they need to pay for it. Whether it's my clothes, where I live or what other jobs I should do to support myself and basically be like everybody else. Shut the fuck up. Or don't make a suggestion. Let me make my money the way I choose to make it.

 

The Man is a Poet!

 

No Salt on the Margheritas and we would like the Guacamole Grande to Start . . .

[Mocha]

Sorry you have had these experiences. I can appreciate your frustration. Just offering one additional point of view, I don't think race has anything to do with it. I treat all escorts the same, and have loved my experiences with them all - all in their wonderful diversity (and by diversity, I don't mean just race).

 

Pardon if I alluded that it's all about race. But it's usually MOSTLY always has something indirectly or directly related to race.

 

It feels great to hear and say it doesn't have anything to do with race, but it can't be totally disregarded when I'm still seeing things that just smack of privilege.

[Larstrup]

Pardon if I alluded that it's all about race. But it's usually MOSTLY always has something indirectly or directly related to race.

 

It feels great to hear and say it doesn't have anything to do with race, but it can't be totally disregarded when I'm still seeing things that just smack of privilege.

 

Perhaps that's your problem right there. Privilege doesn't always equate to racism against blacks or anyone else. People can also recognize their so called privilege for being born white, which none have any control over, and still be your most earnest activist and friend. Please, get over your blackness. That's not your problem here.

[Mocha]

To answer the question in the subject, yes, obviously. To address the story in the OP, my take is the client may have some discomfort engaging personal services, so is looking for a guy he likes to phase into another career, so he can get down with that guy for free. But who know, maybe it's just controlling behavior...

 

Idk what it is but you could be right. I didn't want to see our relationship dissipate, but I still told him I can't see myself being friends with someone who suggests I relocate and move near them to change me...but wasn't willing to help with some of the upfront costs. We even discussed him sending a specified amount thru PayPal account, and then he cancelled it the next day.

 

I should have just nipped it in the bud earlier. Everytime he'd go to talking about me moving to Florida to start a new career, I should have just said: "when you're ready to help finance it, we can talk" along with Uhaul quotes and rental property startups. But that's exactly why I've said in the past that Florida clients tend to often be a pain to deal with.

[Larstrup]

Florida clients tend to often be a pain to deal with.

 

Honey, anyone reading your posts here will realize that Florida clients are the least of your problems.

[Mocha]

Honey, anyone reading your posts here will realize that Florida clients are the least of your problems.

 

You goddamn right. And the ones I've met, I have had no problems with. You seem to have a problem with understanding "tend" and the very basis of what I'm referring to. So because you're ignorant of what I'm saying, you can only respond with a catty little remark that is of little value.

[Brutus]

And yes, this particular client is not a big spender. Yes bless his heart he has been generous to a T, but it's small bits here and there.

So he's been helpful, just not very, or not enough? You're not entitled, you're an ungrateful asshole.

[Mocha]

So he's been helpful, just not very, or not enough? You're not entitled, you're an ungrateful asshole.

 

1st off, you're going to be real ungrateful and need a butt plug for the 2nd asshole I'm about to (figuratively) tear you.

 

2nd, before you go hurling wild insults after you pose a question, give me a chance to respond.

 

3rd, you don't know the extent I've been generous either. I've spent much more off the clock time with this particular guy (and no regrets about it) than would be asked of me to do.

 

4th I will retract however saying he's not a big spender. He is, but from our personal talks, he was trying to spread his coins with multiple people but also getting burnt by some of them also. Because of that, he wouldn't just drop $1,000 for an overnight or $500 for an evening. Not saying that makes him any less generous, but I know he COULD have done it. The fact that he didn't however...makes the statement true that he did only give me bits for my time here and there, versus 1 lump sum.

 

5th There's a difference between getting $150-200 every other week you see someone, versus getting 15-20 $100 bills in an envelope all at once. The first example is helpful/generous money, the latter is situation changing, relocation money. He hasnt given me situation changing relocation money, which is why I havent rushed to fulfill his dream of me moving to his city and being available all the time.

 

So..I gotta go out here and make this money myself, and IF I decide to move to his city, it'll be out of my own discretion. Not because HE had a great job suggestion.

[YoungAD]

... but I know he COULD have done it.

 

How many times are you going to use this rhetoric, Mocha? I wonder how it is you have any clients at all, given the inevitable, disapproving smirk that must cross your lips every time someone sees you for an hour when they could have seen you for two "because they COULD have."

 

I presume they just did not want to, right? Such selfishness on their part. How they degrade you.

 

Ye gods, this must surely be the longest crash and burn in history.

[Mocha]

How many times are you going to use this rhetoric, Mocha? I wonder how it is you have any clients at all, given the inevitable, disapproving smirk that must cross your lips every time someone sees you for an hour when they could have seen you for two "because they COULD have."

 

I presume they just did not want to, right? Such selfishness on their part. How they degrade you.

 

Ye gods, this must surely be the longest crash and burn in history.

 

You're just a persistent little demon aren't you? I've rebuked you and you keep coming back for more.

 

Can you just stop responding to me when you've not been addressed. You just want attention. But since you asked...it wasn't just COULD of, it's what HE SAID he would of and had done and wanted to do...but couldn't because someone he knew locally was pressing for his financial help. From what he said, another escort. As I repeat, if he wanted me to make a big change, then why should I be obligated to do it, if he isn't obligated to give the money to make it happen? It's common sense, stop acting like a fucking idiot like you can't see through that. It's very transparent that he wants me to do more than he's willing to bargain for. Period end of discussion.

 

Whether you like it or not is not your concern. You ain't doing shit so shut the fuck up. That said, I'm done with this topic. Whoever else responds can argue amongst yourself.

[+ José Soplanucas]

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[Bearofdistinction]

1st off, you're going to be real ungrateful and need a butt plug for the 2nd asshole I'm about to (figuratively) tear you.

 

2nd, before you go hurling wild insults after you pose a question, give me a chance to respond.

 

3rd, you don't know the extent I've been generous either. I've spent much more off the clock time with this particular guy (and no regrets about it) than would be asked of me to do.

 

4th I will retract however saying he's not a big spender. He is, but from our personal talks, he was trying to spread his coins with multiple people but also getting burnt by some of them also. Because of that, he wouldn't just drop $1,000 for an overnight or $500 for an evening. Not saying that makes him any less generous, but I know he COULD have done it. The fact that he didn't however...makes the statement true that he did only give me bits for my time here and there, versus 1 lump sum.

 

5th There's a difference between getting $150-200 every other week you see someone, versus getting 15-20 $100 bills in an envelope all at once. The first example is helpful/generous money, the latter is situation changing, relocation money. He hasnt given me situation changing relocation money, which is why I havent rushed to fulfill his dream of me moving to his city and being available all the time.

 

So..I gotta go out here and make this money myself, and IF I decide to move to his city, it'll be out of my own discretion. Not because HE had a great job suggestion.

 

GO AWAY LITTLE GIRL -- GET MENTAL HELP LITTLE GIRL

 

[instudiocity]

...give that escort $1,000 or $2,000 to relocate to a better market or market themselves for an entire year.

'Splain to me Joey, how someone can move for just $1,000-2,000??? My household would cost minimum $20,000 to move just down the street.

[Bearofdistinction]

I'm sorry but I think you're wrong on this subject... I'm aware that better looking guys are more like to charge more money, but not all handsome escorts get invited on trips, I know an escort based in SF who in his 50's and he gets flown constantly by clients.

 

You're assuming that white is beautiful, and beauty (and youth I guess) in the escort business = more success and I think you're wrong. Pornstars are mostly white and the media is bias towards whiter looking folks when it comes to what's consider beautiful, yet I've met a lot of handsome guys who weren't cut off for the job and other average looking guys who are very successful.

 

I maintain that the Gentleman's kind - caring - connections to his admirer not concern over the size of the admirers wallet - rather the involved time - making the admirer feel cared for and cared about - sensual - erotic - adventurous - open communications = providing mutual pleasure to each other - valuing and respecting each other as integral integers in the most intimate of

times is what = MORE SUCCESS - Because Those Gentleman who provide that type of experience are those who are in demand for repeat sessions month after month and year after year.

[Bearofdistinction]

'Splain to me Joey, how someone can move for just $1,000-2,000??? My household would cost minimum $20,000 to move just down the street.

 

This is an easy one === In your 20's you do not own as much "stuff" that you "need" or cant live without. As we get older -- We gather more "things with both personal and financial value."

 

This I get, because I am in the slow process of divesting myself of things that I like/love but do not really need in prep to retire and downsize. I have a large beach condo where some things will go and I will in the next year or so sell my "Urban - Suburban Compound" in the City and move to a 1br in town for the next few years until I formally retire from my primary position --

 

Thereafter I will look at a winter place -- where certain play gear will become integral (Sling-Bondage Bed, Clean undies and maybe a Tshirt for cold nipple nights)

[MartyB]

I understand your point, and God knows I had my disagreements with @Mocha but I think in this precise case the client was just being cheap and he wanted to get him closer to the client.

 

Watch out @Mocha ... he might be a potential stalker!

Mocha I'm glad we have you on this board. I may not agree with you but damn you express yourself and I think it's awesome for the board. Keep it coming. And yes I would love the opportunity to meet one day I you get to NYC. We all come from different places and your views are coming from a different perspective than mine and your candor on this board is very welcome. Cheers babe.

[marylander1940]

Mocha I'm glad we have you on this board. I may not agree with you but damn you express yourself and I think it's awesome for the board. Keep it coming. And yes I would love the opportunity to meet one day I you get to NYC. We all come from different places and your views are coming from a different perspective than mine and your candor on this board is very welcome. Cheers babe.

 

He @Mocha is honest as hell!

 

And for yinz who don't get sarcasm, that's a good thing!

 

'Splain to me Joey, how someone can move for just $1,000-2,000??? My household would cost minimum $20,000 to move just down the street.

 

maybe @Mocha as a young man doesn't have a lot of belongings at home or he's just willing to sale his furniture and buy again at Ikea after relocating in a different place.

 

Many things in life are as cheap or as expensive as we would like them to be.

[Bearofdistinction]

and those gentlemen like different kind of gentlemen escorts of all ages, and backgrounds.

 

Btw, why did you quote me?

 

I absolutely agree --- As to quoting you maybe you inspired me or I hit the wrong button

[BabyBoomer]

Mocha I'm glad we have you on this board. I may not agree with you but damn you express yourself and I think it's awesome for the board. Keep it coming. And yes I would love the opportunity to meet one day I you get to NYC. We all come from different places and your views are coming from a different perspective than mine and your candor on this board is very welcome. Cheers babe.

 

www.rentmen.com/Jarrod_Brandon

 

~Boomer ~

[MartyB]

www.rentmen.com/Jarrod_Brandon

 

~Boomer ~

 

You are so hot! Sexy beautiful great skin tone and you would rock my world babe.

[BryanKnight]

Definitely. The professional still needs to evolve with the times like any other industry.

[Mocha]

You are so hot! Sexy beautiful great skin tone and you would rock my world babe.

 

Thankyou 100X...Hopefully sooner than later.

[Mocha]

Definitely. The professional still needs to evolve with the times like any other industry.

 

Can you add to that, if were you referencing any comment in particular? Not to nitpick, but it almost seems too vague to be deciphered.