Ben N. From A Different View

[+ Lucky]

RE: Doug's Fart of the Day

 

http://cablemodem.fibertel.com.ar/aleweb/blog/cannibal-corpse_butchered-at-birth_front.jpg

[stripfan]

RE: BN QUOTES OF THE WEEK

 

I like the eye candy section no matter if Ben is jet-setting across Europe with Prince William & Harry or whether he sitting in some trailer park with web tv and a satellite dish.

 

Keep em coming BN!

[Guest ChgoBoy]

RE: Doug's Fart of the Day

 

Ok, I'm repulsed. I'm not a BN fan, but imho, that pic crosses a line that sadly diminishes a posters (doug69) opinion and is turning this thread into a circus. I know he used the canibal reference,(sarcasm can drive a point sometimes) but this does not even come close to what I read in his post. I could be wrong.

[taylorky]

RE: Doug's Fart of the Day

 

>http://cablemodem.fibertel.com.ar/aleweb/blog/cannibal-corpse_butchered-at-birth_front.jpg

 

 

i'm so far fucking behind on shit...never been a 4 pointer...but if i don't stay out of this site,i'll be lucky to be a 2...lol.

 

anyway just had to give lucky an up ...you into canniabal corpse,that is so freaking cool.

[carryover123]

RE: BN QUOTES OF THE WEEK

 

Hey Doug, You do make me think. I think the picture in Benj's Blog was of Parliment not Buckingham Palace. Since Parliment was closed for the election not much would be happening there. I believe the British Government closed down for the election so the members of the House of Commons can go out and try to get re-elected.

 

Benj has always treated me well when I have spent time with him. He is kind and has a great personality. He had offered to buy lunch and dinner and did not appear to be motivated by material goods when with me. He seemed interested in my having a good time and sharing experiences with him.

 

I do not know what the reference to "productive" and other statements in his Blog mean, but they must have been important for him to say and have meaning for him. (Unless we got the Bloopers version. Now that could be interesting a Bloopers version of 15 mins.)

 

Anyway I enjoy Benj's Blog and his posts and think he is a great guy from my experiences. As I had said in prior go rounds, I guess we just disagree, but I enjoy reading your comments.

 

Lets do this again in a month or so.

[Guest dreynsol]

RE: BN QUOTES OF THE WEEK

 

You don't know me and thank God most of you never will. After reading about the anniversary of the Dachau Nazi camp (http://www.beliefnet.com/story/165/story_16596_1.html) and then being sucked into this post, I have a much better sense of this world's inhumanity.

 

In my life, I have met many Gay men that have played the part of Ben. Their names are different but their actions are the same. It is a typical response of many of us that feel suppressed and second class citizens while growing up, that some end up taking the opposite extreme by trying to prove to the world that they are not second class citzens when finally given the opportunity. But, I also know the majority of these friends were deeply insecure inside.

 

One day he'll be older and wiser, and hopefully not bitter about his life like those I sense here.

 

Ben is entertaining as were my other friends, but don't be offended by his calousness or his lifestyle.

 

Simply understand that society and some of you have created the monster that some of you believe he is.

 

I hope I'm still around to meet Ben when he's forty, share a glass of wine and remember the days when the queens on this board used to talk so much about him.

 

- Drey

[taylorky]

RE: BN QUOTES OF THE WEEK

 

you think i'm bitter because i think he's a pompus ass.

 

my family suffered huge losses in the camps during that period,the only survivor being my grandmother...and you compare a wannabe to people that suffered for all those years.

 

jeeeshhh had sad and misguided.

[Guest dreynsol]

RE: BN QUOTES OF THE WEEK

 

I am certainly not comparing this thread's persecution of Ben to the atrocities that went on at Dachau.

 

But the lone German soldier that stated "these people are swine" without considering their station in life IS a just comparison.

 

If you think that is misguided, your family suffered for nothing.

[Guest alanm]

RE: BN QUOTES OF THE WEEK

 

I agree completely. Dachau has nothing to do with Ben N. I do not understand why Lucky posted the picture (yes I know Doug mentioned cannibals) or why someone choses to see the fall of gay culture (or culture in general) as a result of what he read in this thread.

 

I would also like to have a drink with Ben N when he's 40. Of course, there is a chance that I will be so eaten up by bitterness that I will not be around then. By the way, I waited a very long time to post on BN because he is a young guy getting his first taste of the good life. I am sure many others took his age into consideration as well and gave him a pass. I finally came out of the closet (so to speak) on this subject because of Ben's constant references to his close friendship w/ HooBoy.

I understand that the constant references are a sign of Ben's insecurity, but enough is enough.

 

(Too bad I did not know that Ben buys meals for clients. I have a big appetite. Gee maybe I will hire him myself.)

[OneFinger]

RE: BN QUOTES OF THE WEEK

 

>...my family suffered huge losses in the camps during that period, the only survivor being my grandmother...

 

Taylor,

 

I don't know if you've ever been to Dachau but I have. It was an experience that changed my life.

 

The horrors of Dachau are understated or minimized by most people.

 

Anyone who survived Dachau is a blessed and special person.

[Southern Blue Suicide]

Doug 69's BenWatch

 

I find Doug 69's accessments of BN(and his zombie brood) to be THE most entertaining. enlightening and truthful posts on this Message Center. It's like The Daily Show(my favorite television program) for escorts. I wish Doug had a featured link at the top of this site.

 

Please keep them coming!

 

 

-Mc-

[+ deej]

>I am beginning to dislike Ben N. because for the second "15

>Minute" colume in a row today, he dismissed all criticism in a

>sentence by saying stop reading if you don't like it and why

>is everyone misquoting me.

 

Isn't that what every other poster here says? If you don't like it, don't read it.

 

(The fallacy of course is you have to read it to decide whether you want to read it.)

 

Why is Benjamin not allowed to say the same? If you can say it, so can he.

 

I'd be surprised if he ever comes back here. And I wouldn't blame him for not coming back. After reading this thread, I wouldn't invest any time on this board if I were him.

 

We often see posts asking why more escorts don't post here. Well, this thread is a pretty good example. I wonder why the few who try continue to bother. They must not have been caught in the headlights yet.

 

Gosh, that must be encouraging to them.

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

>Who would sit there and say how much they loved their best

>friend and then skip their funeral to whoree around? And who

>would pronounce to the world how "shattered" they are about

>their mother's car accident, only to jet off on sex trips

>while she supposedly lay comatose?

 

The specifics if BN's circumstance aside as I know very little about them...

 

I suspect that this is not really a unique circumstance in the business world. While not an admirable action IMO I suspect that others have done the business trip under similar circumstances to close a deal either because the opportunity was too good or the boss demanded, or maybe out of misplaced responsibility to clients and coworkers. Of course, my comparison assumes a business trip scenario which cannot be dismissed out of hand. That doesn't make it any better just part of the larger picture of what goes on in the world.

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

Life On The Streets

 

Hey deej,

 

There is alot to what you say. I recommend that daddy post a warning sign to the effect "Escorts: Quicksand, beware where you step!" Essentially that is what I tell escort friends when they sign up. It takes a sure-footed escort to walk the paths in Hooville.

 

Some members here take special glee it seems in putting 'sex workers' in their place on occasion. To their credit regarding equal time though they occasionally berate us 'old fat johns' that support the industry.

 

On the other hand sometimes escorts post just a little too much setting themselves up above the horizon as an easy target. I remember one LV escort dull enough to post with pride that he tubed a firm appointment with one client in favor of another client willing to pay more money. I went to my quiver on that post.

 

There have been times when I was tempted to post in response to pompous or otherwise unflattering posts. However, I deduced that if I could see and smell the horseshit then everyone else with optical and olfactory senses could too. And if they couldnt, well ignorance is bliss.

 

It is treacherous ground here in Hooville and what seems like an innocuous post can come back to bite someone in the ass big time. Especially in this neighborhood. Best policy for escorts is Don't Ask Much, Don't Tell Much. A fact of life on the streets in Hooville.

[Guest dreynsol]

RE: Life On The Streets

 

>> you think i'm bitter

 

Interesting that you picked up on the bitter part. Any other volunteers!

 

:-)

[woodlawn]

>Isn't that what every other poster here says? If you don't

>like it, don't read it.

 

Good advice. You should take it.

 

 

>(The fallacy of course is you have to read it to decide

>whether you want to read it.)

 

Not at all. I've never read BN's blog because reading a few of his posts in the MC convinced me that he has nothing to say that would interest me. If Doug, alan and the rest are describing his blog accurately in this thread, it seems I was correct about that.

 

These days I read very few of the threads created in the MC. I can almost always tell from the title and author whether the thread is one I'd find worthwhile. For example, I've learned to recognize by their titles alone the threads Rick creates to promote himself by describing his sex life, real or imagined, and I simply pass them by. I don't see why others can't do the same.

 

>I'd be surprised if he ever comes back here. And I wouldn't

>blame him for not coming back. After reading this thread, I

>wouldn't invest any time on this board if I were him.

 

So what?

 

>We often see posts asking why more escorts don't post here.

>Well, this thread is a pretty good example. I wonder why the

>few who try continue to bother. They must not have been caught

>in the headlights yet.

 

Is anyone really harmed because fewer escorts use the MC as a form of free advertising? For anyone who wants to see escort ads there are lots and lots of places where they can be found.

[noviceny]

Lucky,

 

PLease tell me that you scanned that CD cover from your private collection !!!! I see we share the same taste in music :-)

[Doug69]

>I suspect that this is not really a unique circumstance in the

>business world.

 

I don't doubt that you're right. Personally, I think it's rather vile for someone to prioritize a routine business matter (such as meeting a john for a whor-trip to Key West for a couple thousand dollars) over his supposed best friend's funeral, or for someone to go jetting around on pleasure trips to Key West, London & Disney World a few days after their "best friend"/mother was allegedly in a near-fatal car accident that caused her to have strokes and lay comatose.

 

But you're right about the fact that BN is not the first person to engage in such repugnant conduct.

 

But what makes his case so special - so especially grotesque and offensive - is that most people don't run around the Internet publicly and melodramatically proclaiming to as many people as they can find how "devastated" and "shattered" they are by their best friend's death or by their mother's car accident, so as to generate enormous amounts of attention and sympathy, only to then - once it's all banked - engage in conduct which demonstrates just how false and contrived those publicy expressed emotions were.

 

OK, fine - you want to skip your "best friend's" funeral to keep a prostitution appointment, or you want to leave your mother in a coma in a hospital to go to a B&B in Key West and to go on fun rides at Disney World? Great, go ahead.

 

But don't first run around screaming to everyone about how these events have devastated you - just devastated you. Skip the public preening and pretense and just go on your little pleasure trips.

 

That's what makes his conduct not just repugnant, but uncommonly so.

[Guest bernardff]

Is viewing BN's blog compulsory?

[Zippy]

Yes.

[DeltaGuy38]

Too many people who haven't met Ben are making comments about him. I admit that I don't know everything about him, but here are two relevant facts that I have seen myself.

 

1. When Benj travels, he telephones his mother every night. One night when we were together it was 3am. He decided that it was too late to telephone her; so he sent her a text message. The few seconds it took him to text message her was the ONLY time that he did not devote 100% of his attention to me.

 

2. Benj chooses the flights he will take to visit me. I am always willing to fly my boys here First Class, but the tickets that Benj asks me to buy him are ALWAYS coach. If he flies here First Class to see me, he pays for the upgrade out of his own pocket.

 

And, on a personal note, I run and lift weights. I have a 41 inch chest and a 31 inch waist, and-although middle-aged-I frequently have males and females in their 20's hit on me. Not all men who hire escorts are tragic, obese queens who have no choice other than paying for companionship.

[BewareofNick]

>I'd be surprised if he ever comes back here. And I wouldn't

>blame him for not coming back. After reading this thread, I

>wouldn't invest any time on this board if I were him.

 

And how ironic that, had you not locked the original thread that spawned all this, this thread wouldn't exist. Things would have blown over and there would be no reason for benj not to post.

 

Of course, if Ben has such thin skin to begin with, perhaps he shouldn't play with the big boys.

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

Don't Cry for Ben...

 

...Argentina Hooville. Crocodile tears that is.

 

>

>Of course, if Ben has such thin skin to begin with, perhaps he

>shouldn't play with the big boys.

 

lol.... this is pretty funny. Ok, maybe benj doesn't come back. He crying all the way to the bank. The kid is still making money hand over fist -- well, all he wants anyway, and having the time of his life. Good for him. I, for one, don't begrudge him that if he leaves his clients satisified which seems to be their testimony.

 

I serously doubt that his 15 minutes here every week was critical to his happiness or that he'd miss it. He'll do just fine and hopefully he even learned a little bit hanging around Hoovillle about presenting himself in public. At his age he has plenty of margin to learn and grow. He needs to do a little of that. And he's having the time of his life.

[ErikMcAlister]

>Too many people who haven't met Ben are making comments about

>him.

 

As long as we're commenting on his behavior here, as opposed to in person, why should that be a problem? I have no doubts that he's good at what he does.

 

>2. Benj chooses the flights he will take to visit me. I am

>always willing to fly my boys here First Class, but the

>tickets that Benj asks me to buy him are ALWAYS coach. If he

>flies here First Class to see me, he pays for the upgrade out

>of his own pocket.

 

That's fairly retarded... why not use FF miles?

 

>And, on a personal note, I run and lift weights. I have a 41

>inch chest and a 31 inch waist, and-although middle-aged-I

>frequently have males and females in their 20's hit on me.

>Not all men who hire escorts are tragic, obese queens who have

>no choice other than paying for companionship.

 

And not all attractive, fit people think that somehow makes them special.

[mattgunther]

>Not all men who hire escorts are tragic, obese queens who have

>no choice other than paying for companionship.

 

Any man who needs to spend thousands of dollars flying a male prostitute in to see him on a regular basis is a tragic queen.

 

>I frequently have males and females in their 20's hit on me.

 

Really, then why do you have to hire a superficial, small dicked, materialistic bullshit artist like BN? Can't you find anyone who likes you for yourself rather than your money?

 

By the way I'm not sure how well BN's business is doing. He says its doing great but he's also posting alot of ads on americanmale.net. Why would he need to do that if he had more clients than he could handle? BN's fifteen minutes may be up.