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>with help from the mesmerized moderators.

 

Hmmm. I've never been mesmerized by someone's profession or their looks or their celebrity. I haven't hired an escort since 2001. I was often in a state of mesmerization back in the early 70's but that was undergrad boredom at SIU and involved a certain hallucinogen.

 

>The mods felt sorry for him and BAM!

 

I don't feel sorry for him.

 

>the mods know the group that posts here.

 

Yes I do.

 

>They can't be surprised this happened.

 

No I'm not.

 

Barry

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Howdy. I too am surprised at how many people put BN on such a pedestal. He was really sweet and nice in the beginning, but he turned out to be really full of himself later on. I remember when he first started escorting in San Antonio he charged 200 for the entire evening (he was about 21 which would probably make him 25 or 26 now). He then quickly disappeared and was working some show at South Padre Island for a while (right about the time when an accident dropped part of the bridge into the ocean). He had a basic website where he showed pictures of him in various local productions (He was more famously known as Chikindakid then as some of you might remember). He even had a webcam and posted various webcam posts. He was also more well known as some sort of soccer kid too. When he resurfaced, he became BN that we all either love or hate.

 

Anyway, I agree with the people that say that he brought this all upon himself with his attitude. He has been less than cordial and even manipulative in some ways ever since chikindakid disappeared and BN emerged.

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I second the "Bravo" to those who are taking advantage of the MC and the freedom it's supposed to offer to voice their dissention and disagreement with the BN fan club.

 

I am in total agreement with all those who have posted such replies. Well done! Too often in this Country, people go along to get along and don't speak their minds for fear of rocking the boat.

 

It's nice to see for once, this type of thread has been allowed to continue without a hissy fit request for it to be lock or obliterated in its entirety. If you don't want a less than favorable reaction to something, then don't post it or bring constant attention to yourself.

 

The adage "If you can't say something nice then say nothing at all", clearly isn't part of BN's lexicon if you've read his prior postings on this MC and in "15 minutes". Yet he readily attributes it to anyone who casts doubt on his true nature.

 

The sign of class is one who does not feel the flaunt it, both ones wealth and charitable work. The sign of someone with true self-confidence is one who does not feel the need to endlessly self promote and bring down others to make himself look good.

 

Maybe when the funds dry up and he's hoofing it on Greyhound, staying at Motel 6 and dining on Government chese and Top Raman, he'll see the error of his ways and appreciate those who are less fortunate.

 

Without our money he is nothing. With it he's a whiny, pretentious bitch. In the end it's your choice where you spend your money and how you spend your time. My advice..spend your money elsewhere.

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OK, FourAces, now I understand how BN has taken escorting to the next level:

 

>he delivers the goods and then some.

 

So, he's the first escort to moonlight at Domino's?

 

>He goes

>the extra mile where many escorts don't.

 

Ahh...so he delivers the pizza outside of the delivery zone?

 

>He earns a lot more

>money than most escorts

 

Well, some of those Domino's customers are good tippers, provided it gets there within 30 minutes. (By the way, how do you know how much BN earns, and how much most escorts earn for that matter?)

 

>Rick you might read this and think well I do that

 

No, I read it and thought, "Well, FourAces likes to speak in clichés and has memorized all of the BN talking points." :p

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As was said on the other thread, if you want us to understand, enlighten us. I don't "know" but I am making a reasonable supposition based on the available facts.

 

One fact: had you not locked the thread, it certainly wouldn't have spawned all that it has. It would have gone away. One day, you may just learn your lesson.

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In my 30-some-odd posts, I don't recall ever commenting on an escort... and I'm not sure *why* I am now. But a few reflections:

 

- Never spoken or met BN... wouldn't know him if he were sitting next to me.

 

- Judging from his reviews, he seems to satisfy his clients quite well.

 

- But he does seem annoyingly self-absorbed... to me. He does seem, rather crassly, I think, materialistic. His (projected) persona seems larger than the Graf Zeppelin. His blog is mindless fluff and, I think... unless I missed it, could, from time to time, be used as a "bully pulpit" to discuss issues of import to the gay community. (I frankly couldn't give a crap what the rooms at the Hotel d'Grande Coque in Glandsville look like or how expensive they are... or how he's outfitted his Concorde... OK, you get the point.) I, personally, find a bit of humility quite engaging... and, at times, sexy. Why the self-aggrandizement? I dunno. (Could guess, but to what end?)

 

- Do I like him... or rather his *persona* as he presents it? Not particularly.

 

- I guess, if one wants, one could engage a self-made 'god' for a romp. I personally prefer more grounded men... not boys with toys. I want a big dick, not a big ego.

 

Just my opinion... I'm still a bit new at this... not nearly experienced enough to be a 'Drama Queen' --- as I think I may have said before --- I'm just a 'Drama Duchess' so far.

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I haven't had any contact with Benjamin for a long time. The last email went unanswered. At the beginning of his posting here, I enjoyed his posts. I've never met him in person. Probably never will. I never hire for more than 3 or 4 hours, and I believe he doesn't see clients for less than an overnight. I could be wrong on this, but I don't think so.

 

Back in 2002, when I had to put a beloved pet to sleep, Benjamin sent me a very thoughtful email and urged me to call him if I wanted to talk with someone about it. Kindnesses I always remember more than the other "stuff".

 

I must admit I always enjoyed hearing more about his involvement with the theatre, movies and books he liked, and things like that more than what appears to me to be a new version of "Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous". On the other hand, I can understand a young guy whose getting to see a lot of the world wanting to share that with someone. Folks who like BN will enjoy hearing about it, some who have no opinion of him may find it boring, and those who don't like BN will go ballistic, as we've seen.

 

If I made an announcement here today that I have terminal cancer and will be dead in a month, I'd bet dollars to donuts that someone would post their glee. That's ok. That's the nature of the beast. I've tangled with more than a few folks here, and I suspect that may happen again. That said, I don't let my participation here define the quality of my life experience. There are enough real life issues to contend with than to get one's panties in a wad about an online forum.

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>As was said on the other thread, if you want us to

>understand, enlighten us.

 

You're asking me to reveal a detail given in confidence, which I will not do. Again, a courtesy you can expect as well.

 

>I don't "know" but I am making a

>reasonable supposition based on the available facts.

 

Debateable.

 

>One fact: had you not locked the thread, it certainly wouldn't

>have spawned all that it has. It would have gone away. One

>day, you may just learn your lesson.

 

After 20 years of experience in online communities, I wouldn't have changed what I did.

 

Offering free advice when you have no clue what you're talking about is easy. Realizing that's what you're doing isn't quite so easy. Someday maybe you'll learn that lesson.

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i'm neither a hooker nor a john...and i think he's a pompus ass...he reminds me of the type that has barely made it out of the trailer park...but not quite enough to know how to act with his betters.

 

jealous...JEALOUS...of what...his probable poor white trash background or the fact he will let anybody with a buck stick their dick up his ass,to borrow a phrase "i'm truly amazed"

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>i'm neither a hooker nor a john...

 

And as such, do you really think you have any valid point to make by posting on a board dedicated to hookers/johns as you call them

?.

 

and i think he's a pompus

>ass...

 

LOL! And your nasty comments about others who don't share your little narrow view of gayness, sexual practices, and your insistence on belittling many, many of the posters on this site, escorts and clients alike, who don't conform to your NARROW definitions, isn't the absolute height of POMPOUSNESS????

 

he reminds me of the type that has barely made it out of

>the trailer park...but not quite enough to know how to act

>with his betters.

 

Damn, you USED to have something worthy of saying, but obviously, all you can do lately is spout cliches!!!!! This crap is so beneath you taylorky! Read what you just posted, and yet you have the AUDACITY!!! to call another human being pompous! I guess you consider yourself the better of other humans?, and you don't see how pompous that is????

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>jealous...JEALOUS...of what...his probable poor white trash

>background or the fact he will let anybody with a buck stick

>their dick up his ass,to borrow a phrase "i'm truly amazed"

 

I do believe from your many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many ad nauseum posts, that your problem is with people who engage in anal sex. That's your REAL issue, isn't it?

 

Your postings lately, come across as the most snobbish, priviliged, classist, elitist crap to ever hit a message board. What right do you or any other person have to call another human being trash? Your buffoonery has grown TIRESOME! :(

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>Your postings lately, come across as the most snobbish,

>priviliged, classist, elitist crap to ever hit a message

>board. What right do you or any other person have to call

>another human being trash? Your buffoonery has grown

>TIRESOME! :(

 

VA: No, no seriously. Tell us what you really think. Don't hold back. :)

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>>Why are so many here so envious of Ben? I believe clients

>are

>>envious of Ben becsaue he represents the youth that was

>missed

>>when client X was young.

>>

>>Here are my feelings. As clients many tend to have low self

>>esteem.

>

>This is an interesting, but truly ridiculous, opinion.

>

>You've revealed on this Board many times that you are an

>obese, depressed addict who is unable to exert even minimal

>amounts of control over your own life.

 

What the fuck are you talking about??????????

I am far from depressed, aside from food I have zero addictions and I have a large amount of control over the direction in my life. I made one post a few nights ago how I realized my poker playing wass getting out of hand, that being the first time in nearly 12 years so I am taking a break from poker. And me depressed, LOL. Sweet thing next time you're in town send me an email and lets get together for dinner (my treat) and then you can judge if I am depressed or not.

 

Again aside from food you have the wrong person.

 

RT :)

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>OK, FourAces, now I understand how BN has taken escorting to

>the next level:

>

>>he delivers the goods and then some.

>

>So, he's the first escort to moonlight at Domino's?

>

>>He goes

>>the extra mile where many escorts don't.

>

>Ahh...so he delivers the pizza outside of the delivery zone?

>

>>He earns a lot more

>>money than most escorts

>

>Well, some of those Domino's customers are good tippers,

>provided it gets there within 30 minutes. (By the way, how do

>you know how much BN earns, and how much most escorts earn for

>that matter?)

>

>>Rick you might read this and think well I do that

>

>No, I read it and thought, "Well, FourAces likes to speak in

>clichés and has memorized all of the BN talking points." :p

 

I love you to much to respond further. Hope all is well.

 

RT :)

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>One fact: had you not locked the thread, it certainly wouldn't

>have spawned all that it has. It would have gone away. One

>day, you may just learn your lesson.

 

I am asking this respectfully BoN why do you care that a thread was locked? What impact has it had on your life?

 

RT

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>>I must have missed something??

>

>Try reading the thread before you post then.

 

ChgoBoy

 

I was referring to the two previous posts that the picture did not come up on my screen.

 

Interesting how you came back after spewing your swan song. I see your few hours away has not changed your demeanor. Might I suggest a longer vacation next time?

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