March 24, Grace and Frankie, Season 3.

[+ bashful]

Sooner than I thought.

[escortrod]

I have enjoyed the show for the most part, but I don't think it's one of Netflix's (or should that be Neflix'?) greatest achievements. Martin Sheen is so awkward in his role, and Lily Tomlin has had so much work done that I can't really focus on her excellent acting. I showed my parents-in-law the show, because I thought they would enjoy seeing their peers on screen, but they found it a little too close to the bone in terms of its references to nearing the end of life, illness, etc. Still, I'm excited to see a third season. Mostly because Coyote is hot.

[+ WmClarke]

Still, I'm excited to see a third season. Mostly because Coyote is hot.

Yes he is.

[Bearofdistinction]

I have enjoyed the show for the most part, but I don't think it's one of Netflix's (or should that be Neflix'?) greatest achievements. Martin Sheen is so awkward in his role, and Lily Tomlin has had so much work done that I can't really focus on her excellent acting. I showed my parents-in-law the show, because I thought they would enjoy seeing their peers on screen, but they found it a little too close to the bone in terms of its references to nearing the end of life, illness, etc. Still, I'm excited to see a third season. Mostly because Coyote is hot.

 

I love me some Lily - Id still lick me some Martin but where is the show aired?

[escortrod]

I love me some Lily - Id still lick me some Martin but where is the show aired?

I love Lily too. Grandma was my favourite film of the last year. But her face is becoming mask-like. Like Joan Rivers' did towards the end.

 

Grace and Frankie is available on Netflix. It's a "Netflix Original", so it's not available elsewhere.

[Whitman]

I have enjoyed the show for the most part, but I don't think it's one of Netflix's (or should that be Neflix'?) greatest achievements.

Agreed. If it weren't for its four stars, would this trifle of a show have made it to a third season? (Or, conversely, if it had been cast with lesser known actors, would they have made something more of it than a look-at-me, I'm-still-working showcase?) And yet ... I'll keep watching.

Martin Sheen is so awkward in his role...

He needs to go back to being Jed Bartlett. And take over running the country. (When I have needed some political alt-reality lately, I have re-watched episodes of The West Wing. Now there was a president!)

Lily Tomlin has had so much work done that I can't really focus on her excellent acting..

I have never thought all that much of her acting -- probably due to the memory of seeing her (with John Travolta as her love interest) in Moment by Moment, one of the certifiably worst movies ever made -- but she's an engaging personality and almost always fun to watch, and especially so in this show because she's inhabiting a real character and the other actors are not much more than cardboard cutouts.

[+ sniper]

Sooner than I thought.

 

I recall reading somewhere that the production team is acutely aware of the mortality risk with four leads over 75, and the stars apparently really enjoy doing the show and were pushing to do more seasons sooner while they still can.

Have to say I was impressed by Jane Fonda standing up on the beach from a sitting position without using her hands given she's had a double hip replacement.

[escortrod]

I recall reading somewhere that the production team is acutely aware of the mortality risk with four leads over 75, and the stars apparently really enjoy doing the show and were pushing to do more seasons sooner while they still can.

Have to say I was impressed by Jane Fonda standing up on the beach from a sitting position without using her hands given she's had a double hip replacement.

Lily Tomlin has been demonstrating impressive limberness too.

[Chuckball]

Sorry guys. I suffered through season 2 but I cannot take any more. Martin Sheen is totally unconvincing. Fonda and Tomlin are just reading their lines without doing the acting of which they are capable. I certainly don't mind gay characters being depicted comically ( Will and Grace; Modern Family) but this show makes gay characters appear as cardboard cutouts. Let's demand a more realistic portrayal of gay characters.

[corymonroe]

I do not agree with most of what escortrod wrote.

 

Lily Tomlin's face does not equal the amount of work Joan Rivers had done to hers. If you remove Lily's Frankie hippy wig and that HD makeup these actresses feel forced to wear, Lily looks remarkable at age 77. There are plenty of current, candid photos of her on the internet, and she looks fantastic and quite "natural." I saw her recently on a talk show promoting Grace and Frankie, and there was no evidence of that typical pulled and Botoxed look. The show's lighting is also an issue.

 

IMO, the children on this series are the most cartoonish. The show is not the best thing on television I've ever seen, but I do enjoy the talents of all the leads, so I watch with pleasure, mostly.

 

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[LookingAround]

 

What the hell are you talking about? I happen to know Lily quite well and she's never had any work done her entire life. Before you open your mouth you should know what you're talking about.

[escortrod]

What the hell are you talking about? I happen to know Lily quite well and she's never had any work done her entire life. Before you open your mouth you should know what you're talking about.

Okay, let me rephrase. To me, Lily Tomlin looks like she has had a lot of work done. I don't believe that any 77 year old's face looks like that without cosmetic surgery. But, hey, believe what you want.

[LookingAround]

Okay, let me rephrase. To me, Lily Tomlin looks like she has had a lot of work done. I don't believe that any 77 year old's face looks like that without cosmetic surgery. But, hey, believe what you want.

 

I happen to know. It's you who wishes to believe what he wants.

[escortrod]

I happen to know. It's you who wishes to believe what he wants.

Only Lily Tomlin and, if I'm correct, her doctors know for sure. Plenty of people have cosmetic surgery and either don't tell people about it, or lie.

[caliguy]

I think the last time they worked together was in 9 to 5 which i loved. Released December 19, 1980

http://img.wennermedia.com/article-leads-horizontal/rs-221393-9to5_1980_Tomlin_Parton_Fonda.jpg

[Moondance]

I never thought this show was better than fair to begin with, and what I've seen of Season 3 suggests it's fallen from that high water mark. Are the writers even trying? How many times should they be forgiven for prompting the question, How does that make sense?

 

(Or do I need to send my Willing Suspension of Disbelief in for a tune-up?)

 

One point of interest in the new season -- and I don't think this qualifies as a SPOILER, but STOP NOW if you prefer to know nothing -- is that a minor bit of one or two shows involves a male escort. (He charges $300 an hour ... who'd have guessed!?)

 

If the writers had wanted to lock in their gay audience, they would have involved the escort with one of the male characters, but no ...

[craigville beach]

Season 4 is complete and awaiting to be released in 2018, season 5 starts preproduction next week.

[+ sniper]

I couldn't get past them needing a loan for something like $15,000. Grace was a CEO, both their exes were highly successful lawyers, they own a beach house that's got to be worth seven figures minimum, and they don't have $15k lying around the damn house?

[Nvr2Thick]

Reviving this thread because I've been binge-watching "Grace & Frankie" for the past couple weeks. The show has become somewhat of a guilty pleasure. It has many of the sitcom tropes I've always hated: Pat resolutions to complex conflicts, instantaneous transitions for both the vibrator business and Sol and Robert's relationship, excessively stupid/naive/silly "Rose Nylund" type character traits for Frankie - Coyote - Sheree, dumb storylines, repetitive "we're angry until we reaffirm that we love each other" plots, everyone lives in comfortable upper middle-class wealth or successful extremes including the recovering addict, one-note character profiles for many of the parts -- "the neurotic," "the ditz," "the hypochondriac," "the emotional one," etc.

 

I've grown to love the show's heart in spite of the formulaic plots and mawkishness. June Diane Raphael plays Brianna so well, and I love that character. Ethan Embry is so cute as Coyote, and it's a hoot to think that he played the spoiled kid in "Dutch". Peter Cambor is a stud, so it's cool to see him nerded-down as Barry. It's fun to see these older beloved actors show up -- Marsha Mason, Craig T. Nelson, Swoosie Kurtz, Michael Gross, Talia Shire, Mary Kay Place, Corbin Bernsen, Christine Lahti, Vernee Watson, Estelle Parsons...

 

They should have made the show "Grace & Frankie & Jacob" though. I treasure every second of Ernie Hudson's screen time. At 73 he's painfully handsome, and I think Jacob is such a lovable character -- especially when he's wearing a t-shirt. There should have been an episode where Frankie gets swept into the ocean and Jacob has to save her, getting soaked and/or shirtless in the process.

 

[+ sniper]

I couldn't get past people who are 40-year exes of extremely successful lawyers, who own beachfront property in California, being desperate for a low- five figure loan to get their business going. They should each have millions in free cash.

[Nvr2Thick]

I couldn't get past them needing a loan for something like $15,000. Grace was a CEO, both their exes were highly successful lawyers, they own a beach house that's got to be worth seven figures minimum, and they don't have $15k lying around the damn house?

 

I couldn't get past people who are 40-year exes of extremely successful lawyers, who own beachfront property in California, being desperate for a low- five figure loan to get their business going. They should each have millions in free cash.

 

Got it.

[Kenny]

Agreed. If it weren't for its four stars, would this trifle of a show have made it to a third season? (Or, conversely, if it had been cast with lesser known actors, would they have made something more of it than a look-at-me, I'm-still-working showcase?) And yet ... I'll keep watching.

 

He needs to go back to being Jed Bartlett. And take over running the country. (When I have needed some political alt-reality lately, I have re-watched episodes of The West Wing. Now there was a president!)

 

I have never thought all that much of her acting -- probably due to the memory of seeing her (with John Travolta as her love interest) in Moment by Moment, one of the certifiably worst movies ever made -- but she's an engaging personality and almost always fun to watch, and especially so in this show because she's inhabiting a real character and the other actors are not much more than cardboard cutouts.

I tune in to watch the actors work, not for the iffy narrative.

 

In that, it’s like the new movie “The Book Club” (also with Jane Fonda, but totally stolen by Candace Bergen).

[+ purplekow]

There is a gay character who is a younger man, late 40s early 50s, who Sam Waterson meets on a Folk Music Cruise and he adds some much needed beef to the gay story lines. The male escort was a character that escorted for women, at least that was the only aspect investigated. He was hot as well. There is a scene at the end of the current season in which the Folk Music Guy comes into the kitchen of they guys home and surprise!! he is naked. That is the guys' cliffhanger for the season....do they or don't they threeway. I am rooting for they do and the character hangs around. My guess, they don't and the character goes back to cruising. His best line...."Yeah no one feels sorry for the guy with 5% body fat." How I wish I could have ever truthful known that to be so.

[Nvr2Thick]

I've been trying to savor recently released Season 5. I really do enjoy this show. Expectations were high initially, I think because the subject matter gave me the idea that the show was going to a very smart social commentary. It's really just another sitcom, but with beloved old actors and a somewhat fresh premise. I'm already halfway through this season.

 

It was neat to see Paul Michael Glaser. He's done so little since the open-shirted days of Starsky & Hutch.

 

Ethan Embry is the only eye-candy, for me, now that Ernie Hudson's character has been written out of the show. Scott Evans may excite some as a semi-regular, but I'm hoping his big brother drops by...

 

Gratuitous vintage Paul Michael Glaser picture, for no good reason:

 

Edited January 27, 2019 by Nvr2Thick

[Bearofdistinction]

I've been trying to savor recently released Season 5. I really do enjoy this show. Expectations were high initially, I think because the subject matter gave me the idea that the show was going to a very smart social commentary. It's really just another sitcom, but with beloved old actors and a somewhat fresh premise. I'm already halfway through this season.

 

It was neat to see Paul Michael Glaser. He's done so little since the open-shirted days of Starsky & Hutch.

 

Ethan Embry is the only eye-candy, for me, now that Ernie Hudson's character has been written out of the show. Scott Evans may excite some as a semi-regular, but I'm hoping his big brother drops by...

 

Gratuitous vintage Paul Michael Glaser picture, for no good reason:

 

 

First I thought that Paul Mihael Glaser hd been dead for ages~

 

Second === If he played Lenny == I thought that was Tony Robertson looking like death! Who knew~