ANd the winner is.....

[+ quoththeraven]

Here's something I really really really really do not, under any circumstances, understand at all.

 

WHY ISN'T THE TITLE OF THE AWARD PRINTED ON THE CARD??

If the card had said "Best Actress - Emma Stone - La La Land," it might have gone a long way to clarifying that it was the wrong card altogether. Obviously Warren WAS confused because Stone's name was there. But had the name of the specific award been there as well, it certainly would have helped. In THAT case, he might have stopped and announced that he clearly had the wrong card.

 

It is, but at the bottom and not as prominently.

 

In other words, no one read to the end even though the actor's name was there.

 

That it took so long for someone to figure this out and say something is telling. I mean, there were only three lines to read!

[+ quoththeraven]

Jimmy Kimmel...no?

 

You're right. I made the change.

[+ nycman]

http://hd-report.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/moonlight-oscar-card-1280px.jpg

[bostonman]

It is, but at the bottom and not as prominently.

 

So let me rephrase my question - why isn't it at the top (where to me it makes perfect obvious sense to be) and printed in a more visible prominent font?

[+ quoththeraven]

So let me rephrase my question - why isn't it at the top (where to me it makes perfect obvious sense to be) and printed in a more visible prominent font?

 

Because they didn't think this through?

 

In most other categories, the mistake would have been clear from the beginning because there would have been no overlap.

 

Whoever handed that envelope to the presenter made a big booboo. Perhaps they had them in a designated order that was wrong or shuffled the deck inadvertently and didn't check.

[+ WilliamM]

So let me rephrase my question - why isn't it at the top (where to me it makes perfect obvious sense to be) and printed in a more visible prominent font?

 

I have been watching the Academy Awards since the late 1950s. I do not remember any mistake this great. It was bound to happen sooner or mater.

[+ deej]

I have been watching the Academy Awards since the late 1950s. I do not remember any mistake this great. It was bound to happen sooner or mater.

 

A local (Los Angeles) reporter interviewed the PWC accountant responsible for handling the envelopes A WEEK BEFORE THE CEREMONY and asked what would happen if exactly this happened. The answer is pretty much what happened.

 

Yes, they have two sets of envelopes (stage left and stage right).

[Whitman]

From The Hollywood Reporter ...

 

The accounting firm PricewaterhouseCooper has now issued an unusual second apology, in which it squarely shoulders the blame for the incident, cites PwC partner Brian Cullinan for the mistake and offers another apology to all involved in the embarrassing drama that played out on national television.

 

“PwC takes full responsibility for the series of mistakes and breaches of established protocols during last night’s Oscars,” the new statement says. “PwC partner Brian Cullinan mistakenly handed the back-up envelope for Actress in a Leading Role instead of the envelope for Best Picture to presenters Warren Beatty and Faye Dunaway. Once the error occurred, protocols for correcting it were not followed through quickly enough by Mr. Cullinan or his partner.”

 

Cullinan was one of two PwC partners charged with bringing the envelopes to the Dolby Theatre and then handing the appropriate envelope to each presenter as the various categories were called. It’s since been learned that Cullinan was also tweeting during the event...

 

Hmmm ... makes you wonder who else might be susceptible to making A Big Mistake while tweeting ...

[longtime lurker]

Oops!

 

[Kippy]

Admin note: wrong forum. Control yourself.

[MikeBiDude]

Here's something I really really really really do not, under any circumstances, understand at all.

 

WHY ISN'T THE TITLE OF THE AWARD PRINTED ON THE CARD??

If the card had said "Best Actress - Emma Stone - La La Land," it might have gone a long way to clarifying that it was the wrong card altogether. Obviously Warren WAS confused because Stone's name was there. But had the name of the specific award been there as well, it certainly would have helped. In THAT case, he might have stopped and announced that he clearly had the wrong card.

It is...

[MikeBiDude]

On local news this morning (Los Angeles KTLA) there was a bit with the gentleman who had produced the stationery and fonts/ink for the winning envelopes and cards for the last few years, but did not do them in 2017. Academy used a new vendor. They did a side-by-side comparison to previous years envelopes/cards and this year's, and there is a noticeable difference in the 2017 materials.

 

Older style had award name both sides of envelope as well as inside on the card with award/recipient. Much bolder, larger, easier to read fonts in prior years.

[+ WhamIAm]

The worst part IMHO, the subsequent Oscar coverage has been entirely focused on the FUBAR and "aw, how embarrassed and gracious the LaLa Land people acted." There was virtually none of the typical post-awards discussion about Moonlight's merits or, in this case, the "Samson and Goliath" story that would have happened if Beatty and Dunaway and Price Waterhouse weren't idiots. Pretty much ensures that a great movie in limited art-house release won't get the Best Picture Oscar bump it deserves.

[bigvalboy]

[Kippy]

Truly a WTF moment, except for Ryan Gosling. I'm sure since the "best actor" award alluded him he just doesn't care. His smirk says it all!

 

Peace,

 

Kipp

[Sydneysider]

@Lance_Navarro, I'll take that as a recommendation to see Moonlight.

I saw Moonlight yesterday with a friend. We both thought it was shit.

[kewtex]

The real winner in this is Marissa Tomei.

[+ azdr0710]

I saw Moonlight yesterday with a friend. We both thought it was shit.

 

to some of the younger set these days, "shit" is a good thing ("whoa, dude, that ski run was the SHIT!").......but it has to have a "the" in front of it.....assuming you're not part of the younger set!!??!

[MikeBiDude]

to some of the younger set these days, "shit" is a good thing ("whoa, dude, that ski run was the SHIT!").......but it has to have a "the" in front of it.....assuming you're not part of the younger set!!??!

Like "sick" too, still surprises me "that movie was sick" huh?? Lol

[LADoug1]

I have almost nothing but compassion for Beatty and Dunaway. Image standing in front of MILLIONS of viewers. Almost anyone would be nervous and unable to catch the problem. Give 'em a break.

[+ deej]

It is, but at the bottom and not as prominently.

 

In other words, no one read to the end even though the actor's name was there.

 

The typography was screwed up in any case. The actor's name should have been in a much larger font than the name of the movie (in the acting category). That, alone, might have made the mistake more obvious. Just bungled design all around.

[+ quoththeraven]

I have almost nothing but compassion for Beatty and Dunaway. Image standing in front of MILLIONS of viewers. Almost anyone would be nervous and unable to catch the problem. Give 'em a break.

 

No, sorry. In my job, a mistake could cost millions. A physician's mistake could cost a life.

 

They're performers, so the audience shouldn't be a factor. Nor should grace under trying circumstances be beyond them.

[+ BigRic]

No, sorry. In my job, a mistake could cost millions. A physician's mistake could cost a life.

 

They're performers, so the audience shouldn't be a factor. Nor should grace under trying circumstances be beyond them.

 

With the big caveat that they're largely film actor/performers (as opposed to primarily legit stage actors, where the aud is more of a factor), I tend to agree.

 

Arguably the same senior eminence grises/grace under pressure/'they've been in front of cameras for decades' mojo that got them the Best Picture presenting slots in the first place is what seemed lacking in the critical moments. Why couldn't War lean over and whisper "Something's wrong about the card" to Faye and then they vamp Bonnie & Clyde reminiscences for 20 seconds until a PA comes dashing out? Both, but IMO War in particular, compounded a problem that originated upstream . . .

 

. . . and it's looking like PWC's Ruiz and Cullinan are paying some of the price for their role.

[+ oldNbusted]

In critical workflows, it's common to have someone else check your work. Setting aside the idea that the duplicate award envelope for leading actress should have simply not been available to be mixed up, after that award had been announced, there could be someone in the line, who checks the presenter before they go out to make sure they have the envelope and that it is the correct envelope, since the name of the enclosed award is printed on the outside of the envelope.

 

And I do feel bad for Faye, Warren had a lot of choices, she had almost none, by the time her showed her the card, the only thing on her mind was which film name was on the card. He could have done something like swept her up with one arm while waving the card at the wing with his other, someone would have figured it out. Or he could have thrown the card away, which would have forced the back up card to be produced.

 

Then, frankly, to my mind, both Kimmel and Beatty compounded the issue by making the moment about them, instead of clearing off.

 

Instead, a groundbreaking director ended up releasing his acceptance speech a few days later.

 

'Moonlight's' Barry Jenkins: Here's the Oscar Speech I Would Have Given

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/moonlights-barry-jenkins-heres-oscar-speech-i-would-have-given-981581