PRICE POINT and ALTERNATIVE ADVETISING / lowering rates

[MiamiLooker]

I don't think you really believe this. Clients don't set prices, escorts do.

 

I abandoned RM years ago. You can find the same quality escort on BP, at the clubs, on Grindr than you can on RM, with less drama, less attitude, and for less money. For a client, it's a win win. I know a lot of escorts that have been around a long time don't like to hear that, but it's the truth. I've been hiring my entire adult life, and personally I don't think that current escort prices are too far out of line. $300 for an hour seems reasonable, a lot of guys are willing to pay that, and that's fine, but for myself, it is more about getting a more satisfactory experience. Nothing is more infuriating than hiring a top-tier escort, only to have him walk through the door with an attitude that I should be lucky that he's there...Uh...no! And this is just me, but I have found that the guys on BP and in the clubs, show more interest in a continued arrangement and more interest in just hanging out. There seems to be a more relaxed attitude about the hire. More fun...less clock watching, or as Grandma would say, more fun, more cock watching....

 

Times they are a changin....

 

+1 on everything you said.

 

Some clients are more easily convinced than others that hiring someone off RM is going to produce a better experience than hiring someone from CL, BP, strip club, etc, for 1/3 less. Maybe it will, and maybe it won’t. And reading some of the client posts on the forum, many seem to have some fantasy of hiring the “celebrity” escort. If an escort can promote himself as a celebrity and one-of-a-kind and get top dollar for it, more power to him. Then there’s the term “professional” used a lot on the forum. What the hell does that mean? There are posters that use that term even for escorts that use fake pics, don’t show up, don’t stay for the agreed upon time, consistently “have a bad day”, etc.

[bostonman]

It seems tot the majority of the guys in Boston that interest me are in the $300 range now, which means I do a lot of "window shopping," contemplating, and ultimate not hiring, because I keep wanting to save the money for just the "right guy," whoever that is. Frustrating.

[+ saminseattle]

Then there’s the term “professional” used a lot on the forum. What the hell does that mean? There are posters that use that term even for escorts that use fake pics, don’t show up, don’t stay for the agreed upon time, consistently “have a bad day”, etc.

 

The term “professional” is actually a really interesting one. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professional

 

Sometimes that word is used simply to denote someone who does something for monetary compensation, as opposed to an amateur. So someone can be considered a “pro” simply because he’s good enough at something that people are willing to pay him for it. For example, many people can play baseball, but they’re just doing it as a pastime; they’re not good enough at it to be in the “professional” leagues. (Of course, there is still a wide range in how much compensation professional baseball players are able to command; some make millions in their prime, others just eek out a living.) I suppose an escort who was quite flaky and had a mixed record could still be considered a “pro” in this sense of the word.

 

But the word can also have some more selective meanings. It can imply that someone has achieved a certain level of experience, training, and education to be considered relatively expert in some activity, such that he is not just a layperson, but a “professional.” Further, many of the more well established professions (medicine, law, etc.) also have a code of ethics that they must follow (or risk being kicked out of the profession). This is typically regulated by internal boards of elites within the profession, and there may be licensing and credentialing requirements intended to keep the standards of the profession high (and keep out potentially less skilled, but cheaper competitors).

 

Of course, there are no such formal bodies or codes of conduct in the escorting world. But that doesn’t mean the word professional is misplaced in this second sense. There may not be a certificate program for it, but the fact is that some escorts have greater experience, training, and skills at their craft, and this is reflected in their “professional” reputation, in reviews, etc. Likewise, while there may not be a code of ethics, I would posit that the first rule of escorting is absolute (or virtually absolute) discretion for the client. When escorts have occasionally strayed from this rule, forum members have accused them of behaving “unprofessionally.” I don’t think this is a misuse of the term.

[+ José Soplanucas]

It seems tot the majority of the guys in Boston that interest me are in the $300 range now, which means I do a lot of "window shopping," contemplating, and ultimate not hiring, because I keep wanting to save the money for just the "right guy," whoever that is. Frustrating.

 

Diversify your sources. I often pay less than 200, but if you look at the rates in RM you would never imagine that.

[+ sniper]

At $60-$100 frankly I'd be concerned the dude was planning to rob and/or murder me. Not worth the risk. I've gotten grindr "cold calls" like that and said hell no. Especially because I could tell from the distance they were likely at the local fleabag motel that is frequently in the paper for cops busting female prostitutes. That said, I'm sure there are a few college students dabbling in it for the thrill of some easy money on grindr - just that there's no way to tell.

[Zman]

Rates are so all over the place. But the $300 price point is really turning me off of RM. Brand new guys with no track record will expect $300. I guess if they can get it good for them but it keeps me out of the market. I'll do $300 on rare occasions for well reviewed guys that I've lusted after for a while but not otherwise.

 

I do negotiate sometimes on RM and have had some success.

[Kevin Slater]

At $60-$100 frankly I'd be concerned the dude was planning to rob and/or murder me. Not worth the risk. I've gotten grindr "cold calls" like that and said hell no. Especially because I could tell from the distance they were likely at the local fleabag motel that is frequently in the paper for cops busting female prostitutes. That said, I'm sure there are a few college students dabbling in it for the thrill of some easy money on grindr - just that there's no way to tell.

 

$100 = rob. $60 = murder. It's in the code of standards.

 

Kevin Slater

[bigvalboy]

At $60-$100 frankly I'd be concerned the dude was planning to rob and/or murder me. Not worth the risk. I've gotten grindr "cold calls" like that and said hell no. Especially because I could tell from the distance they were likely at the local fleabag motel that is frequently in the paper for cops busting female prostitutes. That said, I'm sure there are a few college students dabbling in it for the thrill of some easy money on grindr - just that there's no way to tell.

 

Hmmmm...Verified hire off of CL. Drove up from Miami. Was running late due to traffic, but kept providing updates as to his progress. Gorgeous, bodybuilder, cut abs, Mid twenties, sweet man, got hard and into it....$80. A good time was had by all. No murder, no robbery.

 

Happy Kwanzaa Y'all...

[+ sniper]

I'm not arguing the odds are 100%, just that they are higher with these lesser-known quantities. Rewards higher too if you find a good one, but I'm more concerned with downside risk than others may be.

[Rudynate]

clients don't set prices. escorts do. and the guys who get the highest rates are those who have the reviews, the bodies, the smarts and the look that people want

 

plenty of escorts are staying busy. the economy isn't down. money is being spent. if there's a lack of business, look inward not out.

 

Denial is a wonderful thing. A smart escort recognizes that he has a "sell by" date.

[MikeBiDude]

At $60-$100 frankly I'd be concerned the dude was planning to rob and/or murder me. Not worth the risk. I've gotten grindr "cold calls" like that and said hell no. Especially because I could tell from the distance they were likely at the local fleabag motel that is frequently in the paper for cops busting female prostitutes. That said, I'm sure there are a few college students dabbling in it for the thrill of some easy money on grindr - just that there's no way to tell.

Not always robbery/murder, really!

[MikeyGMin]

I abandoned RM years ago. You can find the same quality escort on BP, at the clubs, on Grindr than you can on RM, with less drama, less attitude, and for less money.

 

It's great that you are having such success, but can you share your wisdom? How does one go about vetting the guy below? Google phone number, do an image search, and then meet in a public place? It's always that last step that seems to make it so much effort.

 

http://centraltexas.backpage.com/MaleEscorts/hardbody-bi-jock-honest-rates-guaranteed-real-pics/16165075

 

Thanks!

[bigvalboy]

It's great that you are having such success, but can you share your wisdom? How does one go about vetting the guy below? Google phone number, do an image search, and then meet in a public place? It's always that last step that seems to make it so much effort.

 

http://centraltexas.backpage.com/MaleEscorts/hardbody-bi-jock-honest-rates-guaranteed-real-pics/16165075

 

Thanks!

 

Meet-N-Greet at a Starbucks (I recommend the Machiatto and the lemon loaf) is not a lot of effort, and also not always necessary. A quick phone conversation can be very revealing. There are no hard-N-fast rules. After awhile you just get a sense of what will work for you. And hiring from the clubs allows plenty of time to make sure there is a connection. Don't over think it, go with your gut.

[LookingAround]

A lot of people here seem to define pro as someone who has the money to place a rentmen ad.

[bigvalboy]

A lot of people here seem to define pro as someone who has the money to place a rentmen ad.

lmao...

[MiamiLooker]

It's great that you are having such success, but can you share your wisdom? How does one go about vetting the guy below? Google phone number, do an image search, and then meet in a public place? It's always that last step that seems to make it so much effort.

 

http://centraltexas.backpage.com/MaleEscorts/hardbody-bi-jock-honest-rates-guaranteed-real-pics/16165075

 

Thanks!

He shows his face in his ad, so he shouldn’t have a problem providing another face pic per your direction (3-finger, 5-finger, etc).

[MikeBiDude]

It's great that you are having such success, but can you share your wisdom? How does one go about vetting the guy below? Google phone number, do an image search, and then meet in a public place? It's always that last step that seems to make it so much effort.

 

http://centraltexas.backpage.com/MaleEscorts/hardbody-bi-jock-honest-rates-guaranteed-real-pics/16165075

 

Thanks!

It's been discussed with tips over and over (Craigslist, BP, etc)...yes that last step is effort, but the most key to security and success.

[MikeBiDude]

He shows his face in his ad, so he shouldn’t have a problem providing another face pic per your direction (3-finger, 5-finger, etc).

The 3 finger selfie won't often happen, it's not necessarily a deal breaker. Live meet in public place, coffeehouse, at the VERY least the hotel lobby. If things don't look right you can give your own 3 finger salute

[BaronArtz]

Diversify your sources. I often pay less than 200, but if you look at the rates in RM you would never imagine that.

 

That's interesting! Could you tell us more about the sources you use?

[BaronArtz]

I prefer hiring in the 200-250 range and have had no problem finding hot guys - in NYC. At that price, if the service is good, I will tip really well.

 

What I absolutely won't do is 300, no incall available. Really, if somebody thinks his dick or his boy pussy is worth 300 or more, then at least be able to host in a clean place that is easily accessible. That's part of the service!

 

I would rather have a hot erotic massage for 180-200 than a mediocre escort experience at 300.

 

Somebody mentioned it before, I think it was BVB, but escorts should be more creative with their pricing. Like offering a discount for off-peak time appointments. Or offer a good discount on the 2nd hour. Or discounts to returning customers that you are comfortable with and like to keep as regulars. Somehow, that very rarely happens.

[+ José Soplanucas]

That's interesting! Could you tell us more about the sources you use?

Adam 4 Adam and the strippers club. Soon I will start experimenting with backpage.

[BaronArtz]

Adam 4 Adam and the strippers club. Soon I will start experimenting with backpage.

 

I have had success with adam4adam myself. Here in NY, guys from strip clubs can be very expensive though. But at least you see what you get LOL

[+ OliverSaks]

I would like to offer up that although I've made individual offers to regulars if I had time to kill in a city I was traveling to (or other rare circumstances), having deals and discounts on my ad gets dicey because clients will always try to negotiate, even at peak times or for a standard session.

 

I've thought about implementing some type of loyalty type deal for regulars, but I would be curious as to what clients would expect from this type of deal to make it worthwhile.

 

Is 300 first hour, 200 for additional hours a reasonable discount? (Averages out to 250/hr, which gets into the range of more clients...)

 

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[MiamiLooker]

Likewise, while there may not be a code of ethics, I would posit that the first rule of escorting is absolute (or virtually absolute) discretion for the client. When escorts have occasionally strayed from this rule, forum members have accused them of behaving “unprofessionally.” I don’t think this is a misuse of the term.

 

I suppose I expect some level of discretion by the escort, but it’s not that important to me. For me, my “first rule” is that the escort performs to the best of his ability what was mutually agreed upon. How do you verify your “first rule” that an escort is, in fact, discrete and isn’t discussing you with others?

[+ saminseattle]

I suppose I expect some level of discretion by the escort, but it’s not that important to me. For me, my “first rule” is that the escort performs to the best of his ability what was mutually agreed upon. How do you verify your “first rule” that an escort is, in fact, discrete and isn’t discussing you with others?

 

A fair point, even for the most well-reviewed “professional”-seeming escort, there is still some uncertainty. I guess I was thinking about cases where someone has clearly been indiscrete. For example, there have been cases where an escort has felt wronged by a client in some way and decided to post his picture/personal phone #/etc. on his twitter account in retaliation. If I was concerned that that an escort might take offense at something I said and lash out indiscreetly like this, that would concern me a great deal more than the question of performance.