M4RN: No more Nudes

[Kevin Slater]

Soon they're going to remove the suggestive words "men" and "rent" from the site and rebrand as For Now.

 

That's sort of what they already do with our ad text. They delete random words then post your ad without even running it back by you. Even if you copy exactly what the ad above yours says, they'll delete every fifth word or something just for shits and giggles.

 

Kevin Slater

[Guest]

FWIW, I don't need nude photos to make my hiring decisions. I make my hiring decisions mostly on the basis of face and body, as far as looks go. Maybe I'm unusual.

[Guest]

So just to be clear, we cannot post our rates, 'explicit text', and now no nudes? I wonder how much longer til phone numbers are verboten.

 

Kevin Slater

It's pretty bad...we've never been able to post watermarked photos nor make mention of studios or publications we've been featured in. Safe to say their days are numbered.

[Guest]

Not that I'm a M4RN fan, but here's a good example of why nudes aren't that important. This escort has no nude pictures, but I think one gets a good idea of what his package is like:

http://www.men4rentnow.com/gay/escort/male/massage/union_square/kevincollins/323882

[LADoug1]

I wonder if shirtless photos or speedo shots leaving nothing to imagination, but still technically not nudes would be permitted, as in:

 

http://www.rdrop.com/~honcho/invite/rmun/rmun1.jpg

 

Is this Chad Douglas?

[+ jeezopete]

I've noticed M4RN has also done away with the symbol that indicated top, bottom or versatile.

[roughscort]

More nails for the coffin.

 

I love how everyone wants to blame the new president for everything...... LOL....... that was what the staff at men4rentnow claim but things are not always as they seem as we all now.

 

if you do a little bit of research into wintice group, the owner of the site, they have lawsuits going on and one of them is for photo copyright infringement. although it was initiated in 2010 these lawsuits usually take many years to resolve. It was some escort in Orlando that I have never heard of that sued them. But that website has always been the worst!! it's outdated, and it's terrible AND their customer service really stinks! However, there are a few places in this country that specifically use that website for some reason and not Rentmen. Hopefully that will change.......I hope other escorts join me in boycotting that site. When my ad is up, I will no longer have advertise on that website unless they allow rates and x pics! there's no reason to bother with that site. we can't put our rates on there and they claimed that that was because of visa and MasterCard which is a bunch of horse crap and now this. It's unfortunate that there is now really only one viable national website to advertise on!

[roughscort]

Thank god I got rid of my membership a while ago. I heard many forum members on here say that rarely get clients from that site. Then when their profile expires, suddenly you get a million messages. Coincidence much... i think not lol, and the only way you can read them is by paying again.

 

This is just making their competitor Rentmen stronger. Everyone from m4rent is just going to go there now. Plus I always thought m4rent website isn't aesthetically good looking to the eyes, it just always seem rather dated comparing it to rentmen.

 

I understand them hiding rates i guess but now nudes... I mean men are very visual guys , I guess its just an extra step, you exchange emails or numbers and send nudes that way, but imagine it could get tiring having to send pics to every interested client.

 

 

Yes and that is another issue regarding that website because as soon as your ad expires all of a sudden you're getting numerous inquiries and then when you contact those inquiries want to renew they don't reply back they should be sued for that too

[Mark Alexander]

Yeah I got that email. Wednesday they will be deleting nude photos. As others pointed out, they've been censoring text for a long time, then consored out rates.

 

M4RN - It's like trying to use a church newsletter for escorting.

 

Maybe the Backpage case has them spooked - Democrat Kamala Harris proving Republicans have no monopoly on puritanical opportunism. We are a safe punching bag for everyone, apparently.

 

Just when I think M4RN is useless someone will call from there. But I can't imagine this site doing anything but declining. They have such an antagonistic, reluctant relationship with their own customers.

[+ Tygerscent]

Keep in mind: men4rentnow is a North America based site. It allows star ratings and written reviews. It also allows three free travel city listings~ An elite spot isn't that expensive~

Rentment has also deleted their written reviews section~

RentMen has followed the pattern of rentboy by charging escorts for "platinum boosts", "rentman of the day" charging by the area, video of the day, interview of the day on top of your basic, silver, bronze, gold, platinum whatever spot on the escort listing page of your visible hometown and travel cities~ You pay monthly to be a sponsor too~

It gets expensive and frequently, slots for upgrades etc are filled and unavailable in larger cities, (thus making the service of upgrades useless to many seeking them).

I am a touring a Escort and have first hand experience in the cost of boosting my ad etc on rentboy and RentMen...

I've also been on Apollo, EsCupido, Hour Boy and some other prototype escort ad sites~

Men4rentnow is more affordable dispite having to go off site to read written reviews and see rates listings~

RentMen is also an immigrant company in the sense that it is not USA based~

My understanding is that this makes a legal difference in how and what they can advertise~

There's a big drive to push information to social media~

It's the way of the future... Personal websites and social media~

Given the current political regime, I find this change no surprise or unpredictable... Just wait until you start seeing the current government party and its representatives put ethnic and LGBTQ rights back in the closet and then off the cliff~

Stop biting at the hand the feeds you and start biting the abusive, prejudiced, racist, bigoted, fascist ideals that suppress the freedoms we might otherwise enjoy~

 

Tyger~

[email protected]

971.400.2633

 

http://www.daddysreviews.com/review/tyger_portland

 

https://rentmen.com/AAATygerscentXXX

 

http://m.men4rentnow.com/profile.cfm?CID=114061

[+ quoththeraven]

Keep in mind: men4rentnow is a North America based site. It allows star ratings and written reviews. It also allows three free travel city listings~ An elite spot isn't that expensive~

Rentment has also deleted their written reviews section~

RentMen has followed the pattern of rentboy by charging escorts for "platinum boosts", "rentman of the day" charging by the area, video of the day, interview of the day on top of your basic, silver, bronze, gold, platinum whatever spot on the escort listing page of your visible hometown and travel cities~ You pay monthly to be a sponsor too~

It gets expensive and frequently, slots for upgrades etc are filled and unavailable in larger cities, (thus making the service of upgrades useless to many seeking them).

I am a touring a Escort and have first hand experience in the cost of boosting my ad etc on rentboy and RentMen...

I've also been on Apollo, EsCupido, Hour Boy and some other prototype escort ad sites~

Men4rentnow is more affordable dispite having to go off site to read written reviews and see rates listings~

RentMen is also an immigrant company in the sense that it is not USA based~

My understanding is that this makes a legal difference in how and what they can advertise~

There's a big drive to push information to social media~

It's the way of the future... Personal websites and social media~

Given the current political regime, I find this change no surprise or unpredictable... Just wait until you start seeing the current government party and its representatives put ethnic and LGBTQ rights back in the closet and then off the cliff~

Stop biting at the hand the feeds you and start biting the abusive, prejudiced, racist, bigoted, fascist ideals that suppress the freedoms we might otherwise enjoy~

 

Tyger~

[email protected]

971.400.2633

 

http://www.daddysreviews.com/review/tyger_portland

 

https://rentmen.com/AAATygerscentXXX

 

http://m.men4rentnow.com/profile.cfm?CID=114061

Endorsed 1,000%

 

Also, if you're not willing to get involved in sex work advocacy, bitching about changes due to legal climate makes you look like an entitled whiner and hypocrite.

[marylander1940]

USA is a big drama queen

 

At least when it comes to escorting, alcohol, pot, and so many other made up issues.

 

Big government and cultural wars!

[Scorpio]

if you do a little bit of research into wintice group, the owner of the site, they have lawsuits going on and one of them is for photo copyright infringement. although it was initiated in 2010 these lawsuits usually take many years to resolve. It was some escort in Orlando that I have never heard of that sued them.

 

Not exactly! The escort uploaded photos to his ad that were copyrighted by a porn company for whom the escort had worked. The porn company sued the escort and won a judgement, which most likely the escort was unable to pay. The porn company also sued Wintice Group (M4RN).

[+ glutes]

Web users in Britain will be banned from accessing porn sites showing “non-conventional” sex acts such as spanking and female ejaculation under a little discussed clause to a bill currently going through parliament.

 

The proposal is part of the Digital Economy Bill that would require strict age verification checks to stop children from accessing adult websites, while banning anything that wouldn’t be allowed on a commercially available DVD.

 

Under British Board of Film Classification (BBFC) rules, the content of porn films would be limited, including the sight of menstrual blood, the “penetration of any object associated with violence,” and any sexual act deemed “obscene” under a law passed in 1959.

 

The “four finger rule” would reportedly also apply, which limits the number of digits that can be placed into any orifice while on video.

http://rinf.com/alt-news/newswire/porn-censors-to-ban-spanking-female-ejaculation-unconventional-sex-acts/

[+ quoththeraven]

Web users in Britain will be banned from accessing porn sites showing “non-conventional” sex acts such as spanking and female ejaculation under a little discussed clause to a bill currently going through parliament.

 

The proposal is part of the Digital Economy Bill that would require strict age verification checks to stop children from accessing adult websites, while banning anything that wouldn’t be allowed on a commercially available DVD.

 

Under British Board of Film Classification (BBFC) rules, the content of porn films would be limited, including the sight of menstrual blood, the “penetration of any object associated with violence,” and any sexual act deemed “obscene” under a law passed in 1959.

 

The “four finger rule” would reportedly also apply, which limits the number of digits that can be placed into any orifice while on video.

http://rinf.com/alt-news/newswire/porn-censors-to-ban-spanking-female-ejaculation-unconventional-sex-acts/

 

I was just reading a Guardian article about the same thing, disapprovingly tweeted by an internet friend who is the expert on manga in America (title of her recent book) and a not always happy US expatriate teaching at University College London. It's the new censorship, and it's not confined to the US.

 

It feels like the world is going backward and we're having to fight issues we thought were dealt with all over again.

[Mocha]

Moral of the story:

 

Sign up for a non U.S. based web host and create your own site, or advertise on craigslist (where any nude photo under the sunny sundry is allowed...and for free)...and then forward them to rentmen. Of course it can be a headache and only recommended if you've got time to kill. But if i can make $200, and the guy shows up clean and respectful, what difference does it make if you find him on craigslist or Rentmen?

 

That's what I've been doing. Going into the tiny bisexual curious markets and referring them to rentmen.

 

Not everyone can or wishes to actively participate in escorting advocacy (which can feel like politics). But simply being out there and showing people an alternative and a facet of normality is simply another form of advocacy.

[+ quoththeraven]

Moral of the story:

 

Sign up for a non U.S. based web host and create your own site, or advertise on craigslist (where any nude photo under the sunny sundry is allowed...and for free)...and then forward them to rentmen. Of course it can be a headache and only recommended if you've got time to kill. But if i can make $200, and the guy shows up clean and respectful, what difference does it make if you find him on craigslist or Rentmen?

 

That's what I've been doing. Going into the tiny bisexual curious markets and referring them to rentmen.

 

Not everyone can or wishes to actively participate in escorting advocacy (which can feel like politics). But simply being out there and showing people an alternative and a facet of normality is simply another form of advocacy.

 

I know there's a smart person under all that BS, but this is maybe the first time you've posted something I agree with so wholeheartedly.

[Mark Alexander]

The photo guidelines are not all that was changed:

Your ad has been denied. (AD COPY STANDARDS HAVE BEEN CHANGED & NUDE IMAGES ARE NO LONGER PERMITTED). The following word(s) or sentences are not permitted in ad copy or headline: Top Kissing . [...]

No Tops and No Kissing! Geez, even Southern Baptists allow kissing.

 

Or so I thought, but then I googled it and Reverend Jim set me straight (so to speak): Turns out M4RN is right after all:

 

Kissing is Sex! http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=67496

(gotta love Jesus wrapped in the American flag in their logo)

 

I think that Reverend Jim is running M4RN as a side business. That explains everything.

[+ quoththeraven]

Fuck M4RN . RB died, everybody made a big drama (WHAT HAPPEN WITH THE MONEY RAISED FOR THE LEGAL DEFENSE???? SCAM!) we are still here... FUCK them they are big companies is all about attitude .. people think big companies and governments are fucking gods ..boycott them and stop crying about presidents and elections .. man up

 

And find escorts how? Word of mouth? Print advertisements? Stick with regulars? Smoke signals?

 

Scam is a harsh characterization. I doubt Hurant could have gotten the deal he got without the law firm he hired and the legal defense fund they helped set up behind him. Unlike Backpage, which has its own legal problems, Rentboy only accepted ads for escorts/sex workers.

 

Perhaps you were the one with unrealistic expectations.

[Michael Wayne]

AS I expected the calls from M4RN have stopped. Soon the site will die. No one is interested in a site without nudity. All my new biz is now coming through RENTMEN . Something I am doing to generate biz is posting "teaser" ads on craigslist personals. I get lots of great and very nice responses. I send them the link to my rentmen profile and the general reaction is " I had no idea this site even existed." Many of them book my services. The key today is marketing and getting the product visible to the people so alternative advertising methods are needed. Mikey @ www.rentmen.com/magicmikeydc

[roughscort]

Fuck M4RN . RB died, everybody made a big drama (WHAT HAPPEN WITH THE MONEY RAISED FOR THE LEGAL DEFENSE???? SCAM!) we are still here... FUCK them they are big companies is all about attitude .. people think big companies and governments are fucking gods ..boycott them and stop crying about presidents and elections .. man up

 

Men4rentnow.com is one of the worst websites I've ever dealt with. but unfortunately there were some areas where people still use that website. Why, I have no idea but I think it is about time for a new escort website because just having one, rentmen.com, isnt enough.

 

I have emailed men4rentnow.com numerous times asking them to quote me the new laws they keep referring to and they refused to give me any information of course. I have the worst customer service of any entity that I've ever dealt with (besides Comcast.....lol) But if you look up wintice group on the Internet, they have a few lawsuits that were going on and I'm sure that has something to do with it. This has nothing to do with any presidential elections in this country contrary to peoples popular belief and what men for right now.com has try to insinuate

[mike carey]

@roughscort, good to see your comments on this. I'm sure St Augustine will be a place of interest in this.

[MikeBiDude]

Men4rentnow.com is one of the worst websites I've ever dealt with. but unfortunately there were some areas where people still use that website. Why, I have no idea

Some client types have opined here in the forum that Men4RentNow is often the only resource in smaller towns where Rentmen and others don't have lots of listings.