Massage turned full service

[BrklynNYC]

I think it's very erotic to start off with a massage that's very sensual and lots of suggestive skin contact and eventually turn into a full on escort service. It's ok if there is an upsell. After all it's a totally different service. Any one have suggestions? It's also like taking a sample before you buy the whole lot. .

[+ Keith30309]

I've had that pleasant surprise before - thinking I was going to get a (perhaps therapeutic) massage and then a gradual realization that things were going to go much better than I had hoped.... essentially an escort experience. I felt and still feel really lucky to have found him.

[BrklynNYC]

I've had that pleasant surprise before - thinking I was going to get a (perhaps therapeutic) massage and then a gradual realization that things were going to go much better than I had hoped.... essentially an escort experience. I felt and still feel really lucky to have found him.

Who was the Masseur?

[+ Keith30309]

Who was the Masseur?

Edited October 28, 2016 by Keith30309

[Meo]

I think a lot depends on how you met the worker. It might be easier to scale down to massage than to scale up to more.

[BrklynNYC]

I think a lot depends on how you met the worker. It might be easier to scale down to massage than to scale up to more.

Except scaling down means getting a bad massage. I prefer a decent massage so at least if it doesn't go further Im getting something for the fee.

[Ig777]

PM sent

 

Hi, can you please pm me the info as well? Thanks a lot.

[pubic_assistance]

I have never hired anyone for "full service"...only massage. If we hit it off and I liked the massage and I like the masseur, things might progress to more intimate encounters in the future.

[Miker0507]

Always more interested in full service can you PM as well?

[stop]

PM sent

 

what city did this occur in?

[+ nycman]

Recently had a legitimate massage at an upscale spa...turn into MUCH more.

 

He was beautiful. The massage was proceeding at a very rapid pace however

and I was more than a little confused. Fifteen minutes into a 90 minute massage

he already had me flipped over and was more than 1/2 done on the second side.

 

In retrospect, I was a little naive, but he had already finished my ass and legs and

hadn't come near my cock, so I wasn't expecting much from the rest of the massage.

 

Boy was I wrong. Let's just say the dude has a minor chest/nipple fetish and

started going to town on me. After spending 60 minutes fucking like animals

on the massage table and both of us we cumming buckets without making a sound,

he sheepishly said "now that you're relaxed, let me finish the massage"

 

No up charge...just two men having fun.

Edited October 28, 2016 by nycman

[+ Keith30309]

what city did this occur in?

 

Atlanta

[roxxxoff]

I know what you mean, dude!!

[roxxxoff]

I know what you mean, dude!!

[+ BigRic]

IMO such providers cloud the distinctions between massage and full service.

 

This is part of the reason I stopped advertising on massage sites: There are too many (gay) providers who will offer full (bottom) service because that is what they personally like irrespective of more "professional" modus operandi. They are monetizing their recreational sex life and their clients get acclimated to that. I recall a debate I regrettably got into with a prospective client who tacitly expected this level of service from me, citing as rationale some guy in NY who he topped for massage rates. No, sir.

Edited October 31, 2016 by BigRic

[Calvin_Hu]

Have met this situation for a couple times both in some upscale spas and in private settings. But never seen someone upsell (and if it were the case I would probably reject). These extras somewhat "complete" the whole session if both the masseur and I enjoy the touch and the full service brings me to a higher level of pleasure.

[+ Italiano]

I recall a debate I regrettably got into with a prospective client who tacitly expected this level of service from me, citing as rationale some guy in NY who he topped for massage rates. No, sir.

 

I recall a debate I regrettably got into with a prospective gorgeous masseur (who was also offering escort services, and to whom I had asked what fees was he charging for the 2 services) who offered me massage + oral to him for $300, and was surprised when I told him I found it expensive. No, sir.

[+ BigRic]

That rate sounds reasonable to me (especially for your market, NYC) but obviously YMMV, especially if you're one of these clients who--even as a first-timer--expects package deals for a (low) price and has a problem with the "menu system" (thank you, OP: "It's ok if there is an upsell. After all it's a totally different service"). I've paid $400/hour for "less" from a high quality provider.

Edited November 4, 2016 by BigRic

[pubic_assistance]

That rate sounds reasonable to me (especially for your market, NYC) but obviously YMMV, especially if you're one of these clients who--even as a first-timer--expects package deals for a (low) price and has a problem with the "menu system" (thank you, OP: "It's ok if there is an upsell. After all it's a totally different service"). I've paid $400/hour for "less" from a high quality provider.

Don't assume everything in NYC is UPMARKET just because the rent is high. There is also a LOT of competition. $250 is the going rate for most services from most worthy providers. The numbers beyond are all hype and sensation...an orgasm is an orgasm. $ 150 more doesn't make it last any longer or make it any better.

[JD87]

I've had quite a few guys in LA turn massage into full service.

[+ BigRic]

Don't assume everything in NYC is UPMARKET just because the rent is high. There is also a LOT of competition. $250 is the going rate for most services from most worthy providers. The numbers beyond are all hype and sensation...an orgasm is an orgasm. $ 150 more doesn't make it last any longer or make it any better.

 

Thanks for your comments.

 

But my remarks--especially the last sentence--aren't based on assumption. I'd respectfully demur regarding the notion that anything higher than $250 is "all hype"--partly, yes, but not all--or that all one might be paying for is an orgasm.

 

To paraphrase the MasterCard ads: 'Having an orgasm from a 'worthy provider'? $250. Getting off on getting a worthy provider to cum? Priceless (. . . and worth paying more than $250 for).'

Edited November 4, 2016 by BigRic

[+ Italiano]

Anyway, of course there are no "rules".

It has happened to me a few times that an hour booked with a masseur at a low, price or higher price (from 100 to 180 in my experience and in my budget) has turned into a full service (from unexpected very sensual to outstanding passionate f*cking), and I never pointed a gun or forced any of them to do something they didn't feel doing, of course.

Other times it has remained a generic pleasurable "sensual" massage" and a few times a disappointedly "mechanical" one.

[MiamiLooker]

Anyway, of course there are no "rules".

+1

[+ BigRic]

Of course there are "rules."

 

If you're defining the term as 'precepts that apply to all people at all times in all circumstances,' then no. But that would be a problematic definition. The rules may vary from venue to venue, provider to provider but they exist within those venues and amongst those providers even if not reduced to writing. Just because some choose not to acknowledge or follow them doesn't mean they don't exist. Generally speaking, I'd characterize them as flowing from respect for boundaries and rates.

 

For instance, Burke Williams has rules. Although there are exceptions and perhaps some guys in this thread alone have gotten their full service swerve on at a BW location, a masseur who does so is jeopardizing his job and the member his membership in the process. Even The Zone sex club here in L.A. (not to mention other such places I've either heard of or been to) has rules--violate them and you can be ejected and banned.

 

Closer to what we're discussing here regarding the "private sector," many providers have rules regarding what they do (and don't do) and for what rate. I think, speaking as both an escort and client, it's important to respect those "rules." IMO it's a form of disrespect to cite a full service experience one received from a different provider as a supposed rationale for why a provider who is declining to do the same with you should change his mind/practices/rates.

Edited November 4, 2016 by BigRic

[jimmyLA]

Recently had a legitimate massage at an upscale spa...turn into MUCH more.

 

He was beautiful. The massage was proceeding at a very rapid pace however

and I was more than a little confused. Fifteen minutes into a 90 minute massage

he already had me flipped over and was more than 1/2 done on the second side.

 

In retrospect, I was a little naive, but he had already finished my ass and legs and

hadn't come near my cock, so I wasn't expecting much from the rest of the massage.

 

Boy was I wrong. Let's just say the dude has a minor chest/nipple fetish and

started going to town on me. After spending 60 minutes fucking like animals

on the massage table and both of us we cumming buckets without making a sound,

he sheepishly said "now that you're relaxed, let me finish the massage"

 

No up charge...just two men having fun.

 

 

wow....so hot! Can you please PM me the info? Thank you.