Escort vs. Masseur

[InterestingGuy]

I'm curious about men who hire masseurs.

 

I have hired several escorts over the years and when I do, I expect an adult experience like in porn.

 

The whole "masseur" experience seems like a crapshoot to me. The masseur starts to massage you - but you don't know how far it might go? Sometimes it's simply "just a massage" - that seems crazy to me for the price you pay.

 

Do you request the masseur be nude? If so, what does that imply? You will be touching him, but not too much? Is there more than just touching? How do you figure out the limits? That must be an awkward conversation. And again, having "limits" when paying hundreds of dollars seems crazy to me.

 

I assume some will say they want a "real massage" so they call a masseur- but why pay so much more for one from the gay masseur sites? What's the point if it's just a massage like you can get a spa?

 

The whole concept seems more frustrating to me than enjoyable.

 

Please let me know why people do it, because I don't get it. I would want a full experience with the man I hire.

 

What are your thoughts?

[LADoug1]

It depends on how they advertise their services. If they say therapeutic then there's no sex. If they say sensual they may be nude and there may be a happy ending. If they say erotic it implies some kind of a sexual experience. But I always ask if I would like them to be nude or if I may touch them. I ask during the massage. Not before. It's common courtesy. And I avoid therapeutic massages if I want a sexual experience.

[+ Keith30309]

http://m4m-forum.org/threads/mutual-touch-doesnt-mean-i-want-to-hold-your-hand.114431/

 

I think it's all very dicey if you are seeing someone for the first time. The wording is really vague with lots of possible interpretations and last minute decision-making based on you and the circumstances.

 

I have had escort-like experiences with masseurs and see one occasionally but only based on very positive feedback here. The last time I found a masseur myself my casual brushing of a hand resulted in an unambiguous clearing of the throat and stepping aside.

[longtime lurker]

It may be a "crapshoot", but if you find the right one who clicks with you (and it is your personality and "common courtesy" as LADoug 1 states, not your looks, that determines that), understand that first-time visits may have certain limits but subsequent ones just might provide more once he can trust you that what happens behind closed doors stays behind closed doors, you may discover an "adult experience" that takes you into realms that no porn could possibly depict adequately on camera.

[+ Just Sayin]

@longtime lurker is absolutely right; you have to go into the experience not knowing what to expect, and that's part of the eroticism of the session; and as repeat clients become trusted clients, often a massage becomes an exceptional "adult experience."

[MikeBiDude]

I'm curious about men who hire masseurs.

 

I have hired several escorts over the years and when I do, I expect an adult experience like in porn.

 

The whole "masseur" experience seems like a crapshoot to me. The masseur starts to massage you - but you don't know how far it might go? Sometimes it's simply "just a massage" - that seems crazy to me for the price you pay.

 

Do you request the masseur be nude? If so, what does that imply? You will be touching him, but not too much? Is there more than just touching? How do you figure out the limits? That must be an awkward conversation. And again, having "limits" when paying hundreds of dollars seems crazy to me.

 

I assume some will say they want a "real massage" so they call a masseur- but why pay so much more for one from the gay masseur sites? What's the point if it's just a massage like you can get a spa?

 

The whole concept seems more frustrating to me than enjoyable.

 

Please let me know why people do it, because I don't get it. I would want a full experience with the man I hire.

 

What are your thoughts?

Keep in touch on the "Spa" forum here on our message board, lots of good general information and often specifics about individual masseurs.

http://www.companyofmen.org/forums/the-spa.34/

[Rudynate]

. The wording is really vague with lots of possible interpretations and last minute decision-making based on you and the circumstances.

 

Things used to be much clearer, but since the RB bust, things have changed. If you hired for an "erotic massage" you could count on at least a handjob out of it. But as Keith said, the wording has become vague and it's impossible to know what's going to happen without it being negotiated upfront. And it is very dependent on circumstances - if there's an attraction between you and the masseur, a "therapeutic massage"can turn into full-on sex. If there isn't, it stays a therapeutic massage.

 

I like a massage experience to go where it goes. Sometimes I walk away having had a nice massage. But other times? Well . . . . For a couple of years, I have been going to the same guy. He gives an excellent therapeutic massage. He has a great muscular build and takes a lot of liberties and whispers filth in my ear as he massages me, but we never progress to actual sex. I enjoy it and keep going back.

[+ poolboy48220]

And there's the viewpoint that the "legit massage that turns sensual" is a real turn-on for many of us. The surprise factor is fun - a massage I thought was completely legit and then found that the masseur was positioned so his erection was in my hand. But there are definitely let-downs - a guy whose ad showed plenty of skin and the copy was suggestive, but never took off his shirt or underwear.

[Rudynate]

And there's the viewpoint that the "legit massage that turns sensual" is a real turn-on for many of us. The surprise factor is fun - a massage I thought was completely legit and then found that the masseur was positioned so his erection was in my hand. But there are definitely let-downs - a guy whose ad showed plenty of skin and the copy was suggestive, but never took off his shirt or underwear.

 

Some of those guys with the most provocative advertising are the most offended when a client expects sex, protesting that they "aren't an escort.

[+ Funguy]

I have one guy i.used to see often but he went back to school and I'm lucky if

he sees mr twice a year (tho he always gives me a few months notice so we can mesh).

His original ad copy before Rentboy was about as explicit as you can get without just saying we can fuck too! After Rentboy it was very non-committal.

He was/is a very sexual man with great therapeutic massage along with an escort mind. When he says, "do you want to start on the bed as he is undressing you" he does not mean for massage.

[phildallas]

I'm up front, I start contact via text and bring up I'm looking for 'nude, mutual touch' early on in the text exchange. Some say no, some say it will be sensual, but no touching them, or mostly, sure. Usually find them under 'Relax' on masseurfinder.com, so they're half vetted already.

 

Recently texted a guy on craigslist under therapeutic services. Really my type, and a teeny bit ambiguous, 'big hands,' etc. Anyway took a chance and ask him, he came back with 'i can't talk about that on the phone.' I took that as more or less yes, but I won't be surprised if there is an upcharge.

[longtime lurker]

@longtime lurker is absolutely right; you have to go into the experience not knowing what to expect, and that's part of the eroticism of the session; and as repeat clients become trusted clients, often a massage becomes an exceptional "adult experience."

 

Things used to be much clearer, but since the RB bust, things have changed. If you hired for an "erotic massage" you could count on at least a handjob out of it. But as Keith said, the wording has become vague and it's impossible to know what's going to happen without it being negotiated upfront. And it is very dependent on circumstances - if there's an attraction between you and the masseur, a "therapeutic massage"can turn into full-on sex. If there isn't, it stays a therapeutic massage.

 

I like a massage experience to go where it goes. Sometimes I walk away having had a nice massage. But other times? Well . . . . For a couple of years, I have been going to the same guy. He gives an excellent therapeutic massage. He has a great muscular build and takes a lot of liberties and whispers filth in my ear as he massages me, but we never progress to actual sex. I enjoy it and keep going back.

 

My very first post on this site was a review in "spa" (and I'll just let the curious search back through the threads). He operates from a modest apartment, nothing glamorous but with a nice massage room dimly lit. I had seen him multiple times before posting and, as hinted above, sometimes the situation can progress beyond "spa".

 

Just Sayin' brought up "the eroticism" of these experiences and this reminds me of my very first session with him, a year or more before I discussed him here. This first session was quite innocent and not likely to put Homeland Security into an uproar. However some of us are more limited in our bro-bonding experiences than the vast majority here, so the novelty in itself was still fresh and overly stimulating. Maybe the "been there, done that" crowd would have been bored, but... for me... coming to an apartment and being greeted by a guy in a bathrobe who was a composite of hairy chested Aybars/Conner Habib/Adam Russo (if a little less hulky) and was about to put his hands and entire body on you? Mind you, I even asked permission what I was allowed to touch and not touch and, no, he wasn't shy. (We did have a few boundaries established though, even if they disappeared in later sessions.) His hands reminded me of a mechanic's ready to lubricate a carburetor. I also have to laugh about your favored one, Rudynate. While he was literally on top of me, I too got plenty of whispering in my ear, both in English and in Spanish but maybe not "filth" in the strictest sense. More along the lines of "I think I hear my girlfriend coming to the door. How can I explain to her that I enjoy you more?!" Well... I sure struggled to prevent my rocket from firing too soon at the launch pad and finally just relented with "this one is for NASA".

 

I cannot lie. After that first session, this guy was a magnet for me. Another poster here had just one session with him but didn't exactly get projected into orbit. To be fair, going by other posts of his, I don't think the two were much of a match in terms of personality and sense of humor. Also everybody wants something different. Some really just want the "heal" instead of the "relax" and are very particular about what kind of "heal" they are seeking. You do have to be specific and I am one who always asks even if the answer might be "no". Many like to experience things with multiple people of different body types while some of us favor different experiences with familiars whom we get to know better in more than one visit. As Mae West once said: "It's not the men in your life that matters, it's the life in your men."

[happyguy2]

I have found that quite often the masseur is also sizing us up - wondering if it is some kind of sting. It takes some time, in my opinion, to establish a trusting relationship with him as well. I have found being very respectful and appreciative goes a long way to opening the door to more intimate contact.

[Rudynate]

This first session was quite innocent and not likely to put Homeland Security into an uproar. However some of us are more limited in our bro-bonding experiences than the vast majority here, so the novelty in itself was still fresh and overly stimulating. Maybe the "been there, done that" crowd would have been bored, but... for me... coming to an apartment and being greeted by a guy in a bathrobe who was a composite of hairy chested Aybars/Conner Habib/Adam Russo (if a little less hulky) and was about to put his hands and entire body on you? Mind you, I even asked permission what I was allowed to touch and not touch and, no, he wasn't shy. (We did have a few boundaries established though, even if they disappeared in later sessions.) His hands reminded me of a mechanic's ready to lubricate a carburetor. I also have to laugh about your favored one, Rudynate. While he was literally on top of me, I too got plenty of whispering in my ear, both in English and in Spanish but maybe not "filth" in the strictest sense. More along the lines of "I think I hear my girlfriend coming to the door. How can I explain to her that I enjoy you more?!" Well... I sure struggled to prevent my rocket from firing too soon at the launch pad and finally just relented with "this one is for NASA".

 

 

He sounds great. I would definitely go to him and keep going back for an experience like that. Just like yours, my guy climbs on the table and lays on top of me. Sometimes he takes out leather restraints and spread-eagles me on the table for some bondage-lite. He gives me health, diet and workout tips. It's a fun, playful relationship with an erotic edge.

[longtime lurker]

Well this one is more the cuddily "boyfriend" than the "leather boy" kind. A lot of hugging involved. Have limited hair on my body, so I get a tingly sensation feeling his against me. I dunno. Doesn't take much to arouse me, I guess. I also like moving his "magic hands" over the places where I want them the most.

[Rudynate]

Well this one is more the cuddily "boyfriend" than the "leather boy" kind. A lot of hugging involved. Have limited hair on my body, so I get a tingly sensation feeling his against me. I dunno. Doesn't take much to arouse me, I guess. I also like moving his "magic hands" over the places where I want them the most.

 

Mine's into leather - seriously into leather: flogging, bondage, TT - all kinds of stuff. I like vanilla leather like what I do with him. He has nipple rings - we work each others nips - that's the closest we get to any sex.

[longtime lurker]

Bet you were a real cutie back in the days you sported diapers. All of those glittery things above your crib to keep you stimulated as a tiny tot. Only then, they weren't attached to somebody's muscular nips.

 

I had all of the furry toys... bears and otters included.

[Rudynate]

Bet you were a real cutie back in the days you sported diapers. All of those glittery things above your crib to keep you stimulated as a tiny tot. Only then, they weren't attached to somebody's muscular nips.

 

I had all of the furry toys... bears and otters included.

 

This guy is nearly hairless. What little hair he has, he shaves.

 

I like furry toys, too. I love laying my head on a hairy chest - to me there's no such thing as a man who is too hairy.