Is business so good, that people can afford to blow off clients?!

[dcguy20]

Three times within a relatively close period of time (twice this week), I've made appointments, only to have the masseur NOT SHOW.

 

First guy (someone I've seen several times) - made an appointment earlier in the day for 10:00. Said that's fine. 10:00 comes and goes. I inquire. He says that I didn't confirm, so he didn't think I was serious. This is a guy I had seen several times, and never had to confirm in the past.

 

Tuesday evening. Make an appointment with a guy in DC for 9:00 earlier in the day. Two hours before appointment he asks for my address which I gladly provide. 9:00 comes and goes. Nothing. I text him. Nothing. Next morning, I sent a text. He responds, he was with a client and didn't want to text me back because it was too late. Oh, and no apology.

 

Today. I got a text earlier in the day from someone I had seen in the past saying he'd be in DC. I ask him if 9:00 works. He says yes, and asks 60 or 90 minutes. I said 60. He asked for my address, which I provided. At 8:00 I sent him my apartment #. 9:00 comes and goes, I sent a text asking if he was on his way. Nothing. 9:30 I get a text from him - "I didn't think you were serious." When I questioned him on that, I was met with attitude saying people blow him off all the time. I asked, "what made you think I was blowing you off? I gave you my address, and I've seen you before!" No apology.

 

This really is getting out of control!

[Becket]

Sounds frustrating as hell. Got no showed recently by a well reviewed escort. Was really disappointed, but couldn't really say much about it because no shows aren't allowed as reviews. Just had to suck it up, so to speak. More than anything it's just probably a run of bad luck.

[+ beethoven]

Yeah, this happens, sorry to say. Sometimes these guys double book, sometimes they blow you off because they have a better-paying gig at that hour, and sometimes they're just jerks. Recently I showed up for a massage, and the guy wasn't home, so I stood in the hall ringing his bell for 5-10 minutes, before I left. He was having lunch with a friend, who showed up late. At least he e-mailed me that night to apologize. I once had a masseur come here for a 60-minute appointment, and after he began the massage, he said he could stay for only 40 minutes, but would adjust the fee accordingly. Obviously, he had another client.

[+ Keith30309]

I'd chalk this up as an anomaly rather than a millennial trend.

The important thing is to submit a review - not only to Daddys but the masseur sites as well. It's likely they will be removed from those sites but at least the provider will get a sense of his clients perception of his lack of professionalism.

[maninsoma]

You have my sympathy. A few years ago this was happening with such frequency to me that I started to wonder whether some spiteful escort/masseur had put me on a "bad clients" website. I think the reality is that I just happened to contact a few guys who weren't professional and had a difficult time keeping appointments made in advance, whether due to general disorganization or substance abuse. What's particularly odd in your case is that some of these appointments involve men you've hired before.

[dcguy20]

You have my sympathy. A few years ago this was happening with such frequency to me that I started to wonder whether some spiteful escort/masseur had put me on a "bad clients" website. I think the reality is that I just happened to contact a few guys who weren't professional and had a difficult time keeping appointments made in advance, whether due to general disorganization or substance abuse. What's particularly odd in your case is that some of these appointments involve men you've hired before.

 

I thought the same thing, especially regarding the second guy I mentioned!!

[notforme]

similar incident happen to me by a DC masseur who is well reviewed here. I met with the guy once and thought everything was fine. I made another an appointment and it was confirmed but about 45 minutes before the destined time he texted he won't be able to do it giving a valid reason saying he could do it the next day. I agreed. The next day I texted him to confirm and received no reply. Since he didn't seem like a guy who would just ghost someone I texted him again the next day asking if he was alright or had I unintentionally offended him and again no reply. I felt strange about the whole incident.

[Capitano]

I've pretty much given up on the idea of outcalls, with the exception of Jake.

http://www.masseurfinder.com/members/musclejake1.shtml

 

I think that the problem is systemic, in that masseurs consistently underestimate their (time and money) cost of getting to you and back. And many masseurs are flakes who treat all this as a pocket money-generating hobby, but let's set these aside here. I believe that for a city of the size of Chicago or similar, an outcall should be more expensive than an incall by at least $100. Yet, if a guy posted this price, it would seem like too much. So they post something "more reasonable" and then do it if it's feasible/convenient to work into their schedule and blow it off otherwise.

 

Back to Jake, the dude is smart and serious about his business, so he will explicitly tell you what time windows will likely give him reasonable commuting time. And he will show sometimes a little early but never more than 5-10 minutes late (always texting you to make sure it's all good), whereas with others you are lucky if they show within an hour of the appointment time, which is the reason why I gave up. If they are going to ruin my morning/evening/afternoon, I might as well make plans to go for an incall. The irony is that I'd happily pay that $100-150 bonus if they would just fucking show up when THEY fucking AGREED to.

 

Many of these dudes are totally clueless wrt to what they are dealing with. People who can pay their rates are typically busy professionals and the last thing a masseur should want to do is fuck with their time. I had this otherwise nice and sweet dude once text me at the time of the appointment (when I was expecting the doorbell to ring!) that he had to go out to "get some lunch" and that he'd come within an hour. He showed up like 1.5 hours later, so I ended up being totally annoyed, so not enjoying the massage, and cursing myself for not cutting the cord right there and cancelling the appointment. I mean, "dude, can't you fucking plan your day AROUND your appointments, instead of pushing your appointments around sudden an totally unforeseen (Gee!) urges to eat during the day?" He wasted 2.5 hour of my time and my personal cost of that is EASILY TWICE what I paid for his 90 minute massage, but I don't think these dudes even get how busy and jealous of their time their clientele is. And don't even get me started on the idea that I was a repeat client and that he totally lost me there, which is super-stupid from his business perspective.

[Bargara Leatherboy]

I have had numerous recent times where I have had bucks burning a hole in my wallet and not being able for find a guy to spend them on - you ring leave messages, send texts, send emails - and in the end you find a way to satisfy yourself with a party of 1 ...

[Max]

I have had numerous recent times where I have had bucks burning a hole in my wallet and not being able for find a guy to spend them on - you ring leave messages, send texts, send emails - and in the end you find a way to satisfy yourself with a party of 1 ...

 

+1

 

If business is so good that professionals ignore their clients, eventually competition will kick in and new professionals will arrive. I had a fantastic experience with Jake in Chicago (mentioned above) that I've described here:

 

http://m4m-forum.org/threads/jake-in-chicago-massage-and.118564/#post-1173908

[Meo]

I think that the problem is systemic, in that masseurs consistently underestimate their (time and money) cost of getting to you and back. And many masseurs are flakes who treat all this as a pocket money-generating hobby

Excellent statement of two main issues. I have seen some guys quote ETAs that could only be achieved with teleportation based on when and where they were coming from. And I think there are more and more "monetized hobbyists" out there--hobbyists who plan little working with busy professionals who plan everything. DC Guy's experiences sound like flake with a snide of snark--guys who for whatever reason are not happy with what they are doing and taking their resentment out on the client. I would move on.

[BaronArtz]

Three times within a relatively close period of time (twice this week), I've made appointments, only to have the masseur NOT SHOW.

 

First guy (someone I've seen several times) - made an appointment earlier in the day for 10:00. Said that's fine. 10:00 comes and goes. I inquire. He says that I didn't confirm, so he didn't think I was serious. This is a guy I had seen several times, and never had to confirm in the past.

 

Tuesday evening. Make an appointment with a guy in DC for 9:00 earlier in the day. Two hours before appointment he asks for my address which I gladly provide. 9:00 comes and goes. Nothing. I text him. Nothing. Next morning, I sent a text. He responds, he was with a client and didn't want to text me back because it was too late. Oh, and no apology.

 

Today. I got a text earlier in the day from someone I had seen in the past saying he'd be in DC. I ask him if 9:00 works. He says yes, and asks 60 or 90 minutes. I said 60. He asked for my address, which I provided. At 8:00 I sent him my apartment #. 9:00 comes and goes, I sent a text asking if he was on his way. Nothing. 9:30 I get a text from him - "I didn't think you were serious." When I questioned him on that, I was met with attitude saying people blow him off all the time. I asked, "what made you think I was blowing you off? I gave you my address, and I've seen you before!" No apology.

 

This really is getting out of control!

 

I am sorry to read you had those experiences - 3 of them. The common thread, 2 out of 3 at least, seems to be that they don't take you seriously even though you are a repeat client. That is a problem. Could it be that there is something you have said or done that makes you an undesirable client to them? Even if that is the case, they should simply have declined to make an appointment with you.

[notforme]

Thank you just decline It's easy rather than having someone try to figure out what they did wrong if anything.

[dcguy20]

I am sorry to read you had those experiences - 3 of them. The common thread, 2 out of 3 at least, seems to be that they don't take you seriously even though you are a repeat client. That is a problem. Could it be that there is something you have said or done that makes you an undesirable client to them? Even if that is the case, they should simply have declined to make an appointment with you.

In short - no. I am always respectful and polite in my correspondence. If they had an issue with me to begin with, I doubt they would have responded to my initial text.

 

https://www.masseurfinder.com/members/themajiktouch11.shtml

 

This is guy #2 I referred to in my post. Looks like someone else had a similar issue. It also looks like he deleted some reviews because there were 5 of them last week.

[Kody S]

Hey! Sorry that happened to you. When you are spending good money and are expecting professional treatment and don't get it, it is disappointing for sure. In my experience, the behavior you described has been rare for me. As others have said, this is probably just an string of bad luck. Over time one learns to "read the ad" and the pictures and you get a sense of whether someone is flakey or totally legit. It's not fool-proof though. I've been stood up only twice and the guys apologized and texted me with the reasons and it made sense. I've also realized that some guys just don't have good business instincts and don't understand client relations. If you get less-than service, be polite but say something to them as that is how we all learn how to get better at what we do. Hope you have better experiences soon! Thanks for your comment and question.

[Dmitri]

Wow....read the Headline of this post and thought it said "Is business so good, that people can afford to blow clients?" So I jumped in expecting some action! LOL! Then I read thru the posts and saw I misread the headline! Kody S , I think you put it VERY well when you mention that you need to learn to "read the ad"......masseurs present themselves in a certain way.....and by looking at the quality of the ad....photos, copy, text, etc...... you can usually see the ones that are serious about what they do.......they exude a professional aura. It is not always foolproof......but most of the time right on. If I ever have a bad experience with no shows, etc...I have a one strike rule......one chance and if there is drama I just move on.......there are tons of masseurs out there to choose from and I don't need to waste my time with flakes.