Would you hire escort with criminal records?

[TruHart1]

On this very forum an excellent escort whom I'd hired multiple times (and continue to hire!) was outed by one of our fine members who posted a link to his mugshot, which did not give his name but did specify his criminal conviction and amount of time he served. I hired him again around that time and somehow we ended up talking about the circumstances leading to his arrest then. He was so open and honest about all of it and even said he needed the jail time he served as a wake-up call at that point in his life. He's never disappointed me as an escort over the past 4 years and I'd hire him again in a heartbeat (and will!!!) so yes, it depends on the factors involved in his conviction and whether his life has moved forward since then.

 

TruHart1

[jawjateck]

Oh yeah. I don't discriminate, but I also have an assortment of self-defense accoutrements.

[liubit]

I don't know. During my long "hiring career", I might have been with boys that had criminal records. I never checked, I am not the FBI. Sometimes, ignorance is bliss.

[Yeahman]

I don't know. During my long "hiring career", I might have been with boys that had criminal records. I never checked, I am not the FBI. Sometimes, ignorance is bliss.

That's true, I guess knowing the escorts background could also lower your risk of hiring a violent guy.

[Guest]

I guess there's a difference between hiring someone for a quick tryst versus hiring him for a real job, or getting into a relationship. If you're hiring someone for an hour, I don't see much of a risk in most cases, especially someone who's been well-reviewed here by established reviewers.

[Yeahman]

I guess there's a difference between hiring someone for a quick tryst versus hiring him for a real job, or getting into a relationship. If you're hiring someone for an hour, I don't see much of a risk in most cases, especially someone who's been well-reviewed here by established reviewers.

Will it make a difference if the client host? What I worry is if a bad escort comes back to you when he is desperate for money now that he knows where you live. That can be scary.

[+ José Soplanucas]

I have no way to prove this, but my guts tell me that most horrible escorts do not have a criminal record. Please, don't take this as criticism, but I am often surprised at how much consideration we waste in details completely inconsequential to the quality of the sexual encounter.

[+ SundayZip]

It's highly unlikely that knowledge of a criminal record would dissuade me from hiring an escort. Even if he was found guilty of a serious crime and served prison time, it's not likely that his past history would affect our encounter. I might even find his experiences interesting in comparison to my white bread, mashed potatoes and apple pie life.

[liubit]

That's true, I guess knowing the escorts background could also lower your risk of hiring a violent guy.

Touché

[+ beethoven]

How would you know if an escort had a criminal record? He certainly isn't going to advertise the fact. Do you do some sort of computer search on every escort you hire?

I don't know much about these searches, but judging from the excellent sleuths in The Spa, I suppose you could find out anything you want to know.

[+ dutchmuch]

Seeing that some escorts look like that just got out of San Quentin, I do not hire them.

[+ José Soplanucas]

Seeing that some escorts look like that just got out of San Quentin, I do not hire them.

 

Some jail inmates are so damn hot! In a not so far past I used to have fantasies of getting involved with them. I never did it. I'm not rich, but if I were I would considea renting an apartment to host my men in rehab.

See what you did? I'm fantasizing again.

[+ dutchmuch]

Glad I could provide LABear.

[Beancounter]

How would you know if an escort had a criminal record? He certainly isn't going to advertise the fact. Do you do some sort of computer search on every escort you hire?

I don't know much about these searches, but judging from the excellent sleuths in The Spa, I suppose you could find out anything you want to know.

 

There are numerous background check websites available, many at very reasonable prices. I personally use publicdata.com. I use it to screen for sex offenders in my neighborhood, service people doing work on my home, teachers, professional license verication (nurses, doctors, CPAs, massage therapists, financial advisors) genealogy research, etc. Roofing companies are notorious here in Texas for hiring ex-cons. I don't use it to screen escorts since none of them use their real names.

 

All of this information is a matter of public record and you could file a request with a governmental agency to get it but that is a slow process and it can be costly to go that route. These background check websites simply access these records for you and data retrieval is instantaneous.

[Beancounter]

Some jail inmates are so damn hot! In a not so far past I used to have fantasies of getting involved with them. I never did it. I'm not rich, but if I were I would considea renting an apartment to host my men in rehab.

See what you did? I'm fantasizing again.

 

Fantasizing is one thing. Actually getting involved with a prisoner or ex-prisoner is not such a great idea and I would tread carefully. I have a very good friend in a Texas prison and the stories he tells me about prisoner scams with gay men would make you think twice. Prisoners think gay men are easy targets. Many simply use gay men for money to buy things at the prison commissary. 99% of gay men/prisoner relationships are scams.

 

So, yes. Fantasize all you want but be careful otherwise.

[+ Axiom2001]

Depends on the circumstances of the arrest. I know of a couple of guys who have been arrested in the past. They are great guys, each one of them, and i LOVE being with them and I have NO concerns at all.

 

I would and agree with Funguy: "...depends on the circumstances of the arrest."

[+ José Soplanucas]

Fantasizing is one thing. Actually getting involved with a prisoner or ex-prisoner is not such a great idea and I would tread carefully. I have a very good friend in a Texas prison and the stories he tells me about prisoner scams with gay men would make you think twice. Prisoners think gay men are easy targets. Many simply use gay men for money to buy things at the prison commissary. 99% of gay men/prisoner relationships are scams.

 

So, yes. Fantasize all you want but be careful otherwise.

 

Thank you for the wise advice, my friend. Rest assured, exchanging gifts for platonic promises is not part of my fantasies.

[+ dutchmuch]

Well here's a hooker I wouldn't hire, and not because it's a woman!

 

AUGUST 5--A 90-year-old Massachusetts man was arrested for soliciting a prostitute after he called police to report that the woman stole a piece of jewelry after he http://thesmokinggun.com/sites/default/files/assets/dennispdbadge.jpgpaid her $100 to perform a sex act.

 

When cops told Nicholas Salerno that he would face a criminal charge for admitting to hiring a hooker, the nonagenarian replied, “I don’t give a fuck. I’m 90 years old for Christ’s sake.”

 

As detailed in a marvelous Dennis Police Department report, Salerno dialed cops in late-June to report that he had paid Karen Proia, 48, for a sexual encounter in his home. Salerno said that he got Proia’s first name and phone number from a friend who reported that he “paid a girl one hundred dollars for a blowjob.” Salerno added that his unnamed pal assured him that the woman “would do it for him too.”

http://thesmokinggun.com/documents/crime/ancient-john-reports-ripoff-647832

[Frequentflier]

I would only pass if the conviction was for a violent crime or recent drug activity. Everyone who has committed a crime had no record at one point in time so a clean record doesn't mean you shouldn't be careful. Both escorts and clients take a risk when meeting someone.

[+ Keith30309]

"A criminal record" is a broadly sweeping characterization that could mean anything and be interpreted in a seriously disproportionately negative way.

 

Maybe somebody did something at sometime... I don't know what to do with that fact (assuming it's not conjecture). I think the inference is that I'm supposed to assume I am somehow at physical or material risk.

 

I don't think awareness of "a criminal record", whatever that means, would help me make a decision to hire/not hire very much. I look at the person and what they say about themselves and others who have met them say and rely on that. It's possible that I have hired a murdered/burglar/tax-evader... I know I've hired drug users... and selfishly speaking I'm not sure any of that had any bearing on enjoyment of our time together.

 

Maybe I'm missing something but this feels like a label that can be very unfair.

[mike carey]

Aside from my earlier flippant assurance to @Brian Kevin that I had no history of criminality, this thread speaks to a tendency in US society to see any sort of criminal conviction as a mark of Cain. Should a criminal conviction be a perpetual disqualification from being a member of society at large? I would say not. You make a mistake, you do your time, you should be entitled to start afresh. Of course, as individuals we should be able to consider past offences, but we should be rational about what we decide on that basis. A criminal past should not be an automatic disqualification from anything, be that voting or an escort hooking up with a client.

[AdamSmith]

Aside from my earlier flippant assurance to @Brian Kevin that I had no history of criminality, this thread speaks to a tendency in US society to see any sort of criminal conviction as a mark of Cain. Should a criminal conviction be a perpetual disqualification from being a member of society at large? I would say not. You make a mistake, you do your time, you should be entitled to start afresh. Of course, as individuals we should be able to consider past offences, but we should be rational about what we decide on that basis. A criminal past should not be an automatic disqualification from anything, be that voting or an escort hooking up with a client.

Except that this shining City on a Hill is not noted for its rational approach to social policy or practice.

[Frequentflier]

Aside from my earlier flippant assurance to @Brian Kevin that I had no history of criminality, this thread speaks to a tendency in US society to see any sort of criminal conviction as a mark of Cain. Should a criminal conviction be a perpetual disqualification from being a member of society at large? I would say not. You make a mistake, you do your time, you should be entitled to start afresh. Of course, as individuals we should be able to consider past offences, but we should be rational about what we decide on that basis. A criminal past should not be an automatic disqualification from anything, be that voting or an escort hooking up with a client.

 

Mike, I agree with you and what you say is how it should be. Its just not how things are in the United States. There has been some progress recently with states (even Chris Christie agrees with his states relatively new law) banning the box. The box is a question on employment applications asking if the applicant has any convictions. Data shows that most applicants that check the box "yes" never hear from the employer again. In states like New Jersey, employers are allowed to ask after an offer of employment has been made and retain the right not to hire someone after that is disclosed. The hope is that if an applicant is otherwise desirable the employer may overlook the conviction. In the US, landlords are allowed to deny housing opportunities to people with any type of conviction. My opinion is that if someone has paid their debt to society (completed a period of incarceration and post release probation) they need to have real opportunities to be gainfully employed and decent housing. I think a job that one can live on and housing are things that reduce recidivism. I own rental properties, do background checks, and have one ex offender as a tenant. He is one of the best tenants I've ever had, particularly in taking care of my property, relations with neighbors and paying rent on time (he gives me 12 post dated checks at the beginning of every year). I barely raise his rent every year.

 

The other benefit is people with jobs are more likely to pay taxes and share that burden with the rest of us

[kewtex]

A criminal past should not be an automatic disqualification from anything, be that voting or an escort hooking up with a client.

 

If only everyone shared your beliefs. US Customs denied my GOES application because of a misdemeanor possession charge from 32 years ago. I didn't even remember the incident until they reminded me of it.

 

I guess they weren't kidding when they said it was going on my permanent record.

[Yeahman]

I am interested in someone I hired before. He is very nice person, but I found out some criminal records about him. So, I wonder what's your take if the guy is your type and very hot, but has criminal records. Would you simply pass on him?

I hired him again. He is very nice, but could not get hard while I was sucking him. Darn it.