Claiming to be bi.

[+ José Soplanucas]

That's interesting. Since I've asked a few tops ahead of time about bottoming. They said no. So I didn't hire them. My thought was this hobby was too expensive not to get what I wanted. Of course for various reasons I wasn't always able to top. But I wanted to know beforehand as much as I was able that the option was going to be there.

 

Gman

I did not mean I have superpowers to flip flop tops (I wish!!!!!!!!!).! What I meant is that many times when I like a guy, even if his ad says top, I contact him. After all, there are many things to do with a hot guy besides penetration. When I contact them, very often they accept to bottom, sometimes asking for an extra fee. Also sometimes the guy you hired for a non penetration session because he is a top, ends asking you to fuck him (if anybody else has this experience, maybe I do have a little bit of a superpower). Therefore there is no point on taking the stated roles too seriously.

[+ Gar1eth]

I did not mean I have superpowers to flip flop tops (I wish!!!!!!!!!).! What I meant is that many times when I like a guy, even if his ad says top, I contact him. After all, there are many things to do with a hot guy besides penetration. When I contact them, very often they accept to bottom, sometimes asking for an extra fee. Also sometimes the guy you hired for a non penetration session because he is a top, ends asking you to fuck him (if anybody else has this experience, maybe I do have a little bit of a superpower). Therefore there is no point on taking the stated roles too seriously.

 

I think it must be your secret power.

 

Gman

[+ quoththeraven]

That good ole water cooler chit chat. He's lucky your didn't go Diva on him and give him 5 fingers to the cheek! You're a good person for interpretating what he was saying as not disrespectful! This is why I love ya! XO!

 

That was actually a quote from a tweet by Courtney Milan, but in some ways we could be twins, except she's the one with a master's degree in chemistry and a law degree from U Michigan and she's probably twenty years younger than I am.

[sincitymix]

I could care less if a guy is gay bi or straight. if I find him hot and he tries to pound me into the mattress springs while doing his best to get me pregnant...

[Brian Kevin]

That was actually a quote from a tweet by Courtney Milan, but in some ways we could be twins, except she's the one with a master's degree in chemistry and a law degree from U Michigan and she's probably twenty years younger than I am.

 

I take the cake for Blonde of the year.

[rvwnsd]

Straight, bi, gay, or whatever I just want to find a guy who likes me for me

Quadruple Like and +1,297

[Englishdaddy2016]

In the states the guys that are gay usually give the best experiences. Especially porn stars and escorts. Elsewhere is definitely debatable as with Brazil. But here in the states it's from what I've seen and experienced quite the difference.

[TruHart1]

Personally, I can think of two escorts I hire on a regular basis off the top of my head, who advertise as bi. One is a top only and one, who's also a "gay" porn actor, likes to top or bottom equally! They have both described themselves as being into any scene sexually, be it with a guy, a woman or any combination thereof, including major orgies. Oh, and they are both major beauties of the male gender! Both of them claim that they could see themselves in a long-term relationship with either a man or a woman, depending on the individual! I find discussing their many sexual experiences with them fascinating.

 

There is another escort (also a pornstar) who has always claimed he's completely straight, has a girlfriend, yada, yada, but has been a big star in gay porn. I decided to hire him once simply because I found everything about him so very exciting. I was careful, asked before each act we did in bed, and with me, he was completely willing to do anything I wanted, as much or more enthusiastic about making me satisfied as any gay or bi man I've ever hired! So I am definitely with "the labels don't really matter" crowd!

 

TruHart1

[caliguy]

Personally, I can think of two escorts I hire on a regular basis off the top of my head, who advertise as bi. One is a top only and one, who's also a "gay" porn actor, likes to top or bottom equally! They have both described themselves as being into any scene sexually, be it with a guy, a woman or any combination thereof, including major orgies. Oh, and they are both major beauties of the male gender! Both of them claim that they could see themselves in a long-term relationship with either a man or a woman, depending on the individual! I find discussing their many sexual experiences with them fascinating.

 

There is another escort (also a pornstar) who has always claimed he's completely straight, has a girlfriend, yada, yada, but has been a big star in gay porn. I decided to hire him once simply because I found everything about him so very exciting. I was careful, asked before each act we did in bed, and with me, he was completely willing to do anything I wanted, as much or more enthusiastic about making me satisfied as any gay or bi man I've ever hired! So I am definitely with "the labels don't really matter" crowd!

 

TruHart1

Either they're not as straight as they're telling or you or you're incredibly lucky.

[liubit]

In Brazil, many men are bi. They don't have any hang ups about who they sleep with. When visiting there I've been with many men who are married to woman and I can't tell the difference. Brazil may be the exception and not the rule, but it's nice to be in a country without labels.

 

It also happens in Prague. I find that Czech kids defy labels. Many of the escorts I have seen have girlfriends, and yet truly enjoy sex with men. They are basically sexual. Lucky me

[MikeyGMin]

I don't agree with the "labels don't matter" school of thought. In marketing situation they actually can matter to a great many people. I know that I am not alone in skipping ads where the escort identifies as straight. To me, it signals that he is either playing up to the straight boy fantasy or signaling that he has limitations. I'm not interested in either scenario.

 

It just seems to me that even if you are completely straight, but willing to give a full service, the sensible thing to do is advertise as bisexual. Signaling straight is just a complication that I would rather not deal with -- even if it means I miss a hot guy or two.

[marylander1940]

It is my observation that the majority of guys on rentmen claim to be bi. Has anyone notices a difference in the quality of service between guys identifying as bi vs. guys identifying as gay?

 

it if works for their business good for them... but many times it's nothing but a lie.

[LADoug1]

I think it's about enjoyment and pleasure. If you like sex with women but also enjoy sex with men (particularly bottoming) you are bi regardless of how you self-identify.

[RPCny]

As the posts in this thread indicate, this is an incredibly complicated issue. In real life, I've found that I prefer Bi men because they are often more open-minded and varied in their sexual experiences. Of course, that's just been my experience. And that's the point. We've all had different experiences and we all have a different understanding of what we believe Bisexual to mean -- despite the fact that there is, indeed, a denotative definition that casts a pretty wide net. And when you add in the marketing dimension of escorting it makes it all the more complicated.

 

I do agree with those who encourage potential clients to look past the label. It's much more important to read the escort's ad, reviews and feedback, when you're able, and, mostly importantly, communicate directly with the escort as to your particular desires or his limitations. His willingness may or may not have anything to do with his sexuality and more to do with personal lines he has drawn due to a relationship or some other reason. Too often we are filled with conjecture about these guys, especially when it comes to intensely and complicated personal issues likes their sexuality. It's a fluid issue, in society, in the escort world and for some of these guys themselves. At a certain point, we have to let it go and move on.

[+ glennnn]

I appreciate this thread, and I get it, too. I have had very satisfying sex with both men and women. I have had "meh" sex with both, too. Am I bi? Does it matter? Right now I am very focused on men in all their "infinite variety", regardless of labels. My ultimate goal is to relax and enjoy it all while I still can and hope for plenty of the very satisfying kind!

[LADoug1]

I used to steer clear of escorts claiming to be bi. This thread has changed my outlook.

[MikeyGMin]

I used to steer clear of escorts claiming to be bi. This thread has changed my outlook.

 

Still going to avoid the ones who identify as straight I presume?

[jjkrkwood]

No difference. I do not really pay attention to those labels. I lost the count of how many times I've drilled a self proclaimed top. And they liked it.

 

IMO top or bottom has nothing to do with gay or str8. One label does not fit All.... But I do get your implication Mr latbear....

[+ José Soplanucas]

IMO top or bottom has nothing to do with gay or str8. One label does not fit All.... But I do get your implication Mr latbear....

I agree jj, labels are arbitrary and not the best tool to make sense of reality.

[+ WhamIAm]

I don't even know what "probably gay" means. Bisexuals range from those who are more attracted to members of the same sex (Kinsey 5) to those who are more attracted to members of the opposite sex (Kinsey 1). They're all still bisexuals.

 

This. I'm totally a peg-the-meter Kinsey 6 and was of the opinion back in the day that "bisexual" meant a guy who was still not entirely ready to accept being gay. Found over time that that was (mostly) wrong, and where it turned out that bisexuality was a way station on the road to coming out, the issue was a lot more complicated than just mustering up the courage to do it. Some of my best partners IRL and one long-term boyfriend have been bi. My life is better for having embraced a wider view.

 

I could list myself as gay in my ads but that would also cut out a portion of my clientele base.

 

And this. Without ignoring or minimizing Kurtis' statement re his sexual identity IRL, I think there's also a marketing aspect to it when it comes to RM listings. If an escort is willing and able to market his services to both men and women, go for it. It matters not to me. I will confess that I usually filter out guys who advertise as straight from my searches. I like a lot of passion, kissing, foreplay (but not one-way muscle worship). At least in my mind, listing as straight conjures up an image of a guy who would be far less interactive than a guy who lists as gay or bi. I'm sure there's a large niche market for guys who advertise as straight. Again, go for it. Not my thing. Tho I'd be interested to hear from any clients of straight-advertising escorts who defy my preconceptions.

[+ SundayZip]

I'm not into most straight guys-well I could be 'in' to them. But in general I wouldn't hire one on purpose. I actually did hire a straight escort for a weekend once. It wasn't on purpose. He didn't advertise as straight. I probably wouldn't have been quite as upset if he had been 'into' kissing. But he wasn't. It wasn't a great weekend.

 

Of course I have accidentally hired gay escorts who weren't 'into' kissing either. Those weren't my favorite times either.

 

My issue about hiring straight escorts is partially explained by the way I feel about 'straight' sex. I'm not sure I could force myself to have it. With me feeling this way, how could I want to make a straight guy go through with having sex with a gender he doesn't prefer. And while I know a gay escort might not be attracted to me, at least I know he's attracted to guys in general. So I only have one hurdle to get past with gay escort (my looks) as opposed to at least two with a straight escort (my looks and gender).

 

Gman

 

Gman, I understand from your explanation why you would not hire a straight guy, but what about a guy who identifies as bi?

 

I've always assumed that being bi doesn't necessarily mean he's less attracted to men. But maybe I'm wrong. Maybe a bi person's attraction to one sex is inversely proportional to their level of attraction to the other sex. In other words, if a bi man is really attracted to women he can only be a little attracted to men (and visa versa).

 

Hmm.. I wonder.

[seaboy4hire]

I did not mean I have superpowers to flip flop tops (I wish!!!!!!!!!).! What I meant is that many times when I like a guy, even if his ad says top, I contact him. After all, there are many things to do with a hot guy besides penetration. When I contact them, very often they accept to bottom, sometimes asking for an extra fee. Also sometimes the guy you hired for a non penetration session because he is a top, ends asking you to fuck him (if anybody else has this experience, maybe I do have a little bit of a superpower). Therefore there is no point on taking the stated roles too seriously.

 

Please share your super power knowledge. I cant get a top past getting his ass eaten and hole rubbed.

 

Hugs,

Greg

[+ purplekow]

I have had some success with having tops decide to bottom for me. Most usually it was not a superpower, just a request. A few these guys advertised as tops because they were rarely hired as a bottom and thought advertising as a Tippy Tippy Toe Top would give a boost to the chances of being hired as a top. Some escorts advertise as tops, including at least two EOY, but they have bottomed in the past. It may be that bottoming takes more time and effort for preparation or that they have not enjoyed the lackluster fuckings they were getting and just decided to go top heavy.

As with everything else with escorting, a courteous manner, a patient approach and some well applied saliva can perform wonders.

 

 

 

Please share your super power knowledge. I cant get a top past getting his ass eaten and hole rubbed.

 

Hugs,

Greg

[caliguy]

I have had some success with having tops decide to bottom for me. Most usually it was not a superpower, just a request. A few these guys advertised as tops because they were rarely hired as a bottom and thought advertising as a Tippy Tippy Toe Top would give a boost to the chances of being hired as a top. Some escorts advertise as tops, including at least two EOY, but they have bottomed in the past. It may be that bottoming takes more time and effort for preparation or that they have not enjoyed the lackluster fuckings they were getting and just decided to go top heavy.

As with everything else with escorting, a courteous manner, a patient approach and some well applied saliva can perform wonders.

Bottoms have to work harder, get less pay and are less in demand. Therefore I can understand some guys reluctance in advertising as a strict bottom even if they are.

[+ Gar1eth]

I'm not into most straight guys-well I could be 'in' to them. But in general I wouldn't hire one on purpose. I actually did hire a straight escort for a weekend once. It wasn't on purpose. He didn't advertise as straight. I probably wouldn't have been quite as upset if he had been 'into' kissing. But he wasn't. It wasn't a great weekend.

 

Of course I have accidentally hired gay escorts who weren't 'into' kissing either. Those weren't my favorite times either.

 

My issue about hiring straight escorts is partially explained by the way I feel about 'straight' sex. I'm not sure I could force myself to have it. With me feeling this way, how could I want to make a straight guy go through with having sex with a gender he doesn't prefer. And while I know a gay escort might not be attracted to me, at least I know he's attracted to guys in general. So I only have one hurdle to get past with gay escort (my looks) as opposed to at least two with a straight escort (my looks and gender).

 

Gman

 

Gman, I understand from your explanation why you would not hire a straight guy, but what about a guy who identifies as bi?

 

Bi is a struggle for me because the only time I remember being aroused by a woman-and it was only partially aroused-was in a dream I had when I was about 16 or 17. Other than that on a sexual basis woman don't do anything for me. I guess that makes me a Kinsey 6.

 

I have hired bisexuals. But it depends on whether or not I get the feeling they are really bisexual or really straight and just using the bisexual label to get clients.

Bottoms have to work harder, get less pay and are less in demand. Therefore I can understand some guys reluctance in advertising as a strict bottom even if they are.

 

I don't remember ever getting a price differential on a total bottom escort compared to one who is versatile. Now if you want to add 'prep' time, then yes the amount of time spent prepping beforehand plus the actual time involved in a session would come out to be less per hour for someone who has average fees than a top who charged the same hourly rate.

 

 

Gman