MscleLovr Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 I wonder if you are deliberately missing the point here @marylander1940 ? I agree with @The_Impeccable_G that Seeking is not a site to use to find an instant hookup or hire. I feel that many young men on Seeking are enthusiastic amateurs. They are sexually fluid or versatile, and they see an older man as interesting because he can look after them. They are interested in a classic “mutually beneficial arrangement”. I feel they would regard as crass and vulgar any older man saying I will pay you for sex. I do understand that some posters will regard any unconventional relationship as entailing “paying for sex”. Of course, an attractive young man wanting an expensive gift may please his partner in bed either to provide an incentive for purchase or to say Thank you…just as a wife may please her older husband in bed, hoping for a similar outcome. I don’t feel you can reduce the complexities of a relationship to a simple transaction. I always had a clear photo and true stats on my online profiles. Over the years, I met a few young men who genuinely prefer an older man, but on Seeking I found there were many who responded well to me. The ones I liked were nice young men with nice fit bodies; they were generally well-educated and well-mannered. Building friendships with them took time, but it was an enjoyable experience. HoseMaster, liubit, The_Impeccable_G and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 I wonder if you are deliberately missing the point here @marylander1940 ? I agree with @The_Impeccable_G that Seeking is not a site to use to find an instant hookup or hire. I feel that many young men on Seeking are enthusiastic amateurs. They are sexually fluid or versatile, and they see an older man as interesting because he can look after them. They are interested in a classic “mutually beneficial arrangement”. I feel they would regard as crass and vulgar any older man saying I will pay you for sex. I do understand that some posters will regard any unconventional relationship as entailing “paying for sex”. Of course, an attractive young man wanting an expensive gift may please his partner in bed either to provide an incentive for purchase or to say Thank you…just as a wife may please her older husband in bed, hoping for a similar outcome. I don’t feel you can reduce the complexities of a relationship to a simple transaction. I always had a clear photo and true stats on my online profiles. Over the years, I met a few young men who genuinely prefer an older man, but on Seeking I found there were many who responded well to me. The ones I liked were nice young men with nice fit bodies; they were generally well-educated and well-mannered. Building friendships with them took time, but it was an enjoyable experience. Certainly SA is not grindr nor RM but it's closer to RM and I know some escorts who have profiles on SA and complain about the over use of the words "hot daddy" by some older men who approach them. How do we call a relationship between a young man and an older one where the first only has sex with the other if he takes on an all paid 1 week cruise? I'm sure some young men truly prefer an older guy but I guarantee you not all older men could qualify? Being young doesn't mean always to be good looking and in shape either. I'm surprised about so many posters on here bragging about their amazing and affordable SA encounters while still hiring from RM. what did you give them in exchange for their company besides a nice dinner? I know escorts MUST cum for you, you've posted many times that you have to be their only client that day and they MUST orgasm with you. I'm sure that's easier to achieve in SA. caliguy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ FrankR Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 what did you give them in exchange for their company besides a nice dinner? You give them your time, your attention, they also benefit from your wisdow and experience. ☺️ MscleLovr and + tassojunior 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 You give them your time, your attention, they also benefit from your wisdow and experience. ☺ They can get that without having to put out... from a relative, teacher, neighbor, gay older friend, etc. caliguy and HoseMaster 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MscleLovr Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 I know escorts MUST cum for you, you've posted many times that you have to be their only client that day and they MUST orgasm with you I’m certain that you’re confusing me with someone else @marylander1940. When I hired years ago, I never insisted that I be “their only client that day”. Nor did I insist that they “MUST cum”. I was certainly clear with escorts about what I prefer and enjoy to do (eg I’m a top only, I really enjoy being sucked to completion etc). Equally I always mentioned that I enjoy lots of deep kissing and that if they will bottom for me, I find it very hot if they climax while I’m pumping them. Importantly, I ALWAYS emphasized to an escort - and indeed to anyone I met online - that I wanted us to have a great time together, so we had to be compatible and my desires/wishes were a menu, not a checklist! HoseMaster and + Lucky 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MscleLovr Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 I'm surprised about so many posters on here bragging about their amazing and affordable SA encounters while still hiring from RM. Maybe I missed those posts in this long thread but I don’t recall many “bragging about…affordable encounters”. With Seeking, it’s a longer process and involves building trust and friendship. How do we call a relationship between a young man and an older one where the first only has sex with the other if he takes on an all paid 1 week cruise? Successful…if both enjoyed their time together. They can get that without having to put out... from a relative, teacher, neighbor, gay older friend, etc. I‘ve met a lot of attractive young men with nice bodies over the years. Many have confided in me. Not one has mentioned having a “gay older friend”. HoseMaster and MikeBiDude 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 Maybe I missed those posts in this long thread but I don’t recall many “bragging about…affordable encounters”. With Seeking, it’s a longer process and involves building trust and friendship. plenty of examples. All you can fuck for 400 a week for instance. 200 overnight. They're all over the thread. Successful…if both enjoyed their time together. yes, but one is paying, the other is enjoying "luxury" I‘ve met a lot of attractive young men with nice bodies over the years. Many have confided in me. Not one has mentioned having a “gay older friend”. Maybe they saw you as their older gay friend. Why are you quoting me again? caliguy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ FrankR Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 You give them your time, your attention, they also benefit from your wisdow and experience. ☺ They can get that without having to put out... from a relative, teacher, neighbor, gay older friend, etc. Where is the fun in that?? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Impeccable_G Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 I'm surprised about so many posters on here bragging about their amazing and affordable SA encounters while still hiring from RM. what did you give them in exchange for their company besides a nice dinner? Amazing, yes if you chose the right one. Affordable, it depends on your financial status. But certainly, far more expensive than escorts. In my experience, escorts are low cost, SA type medium and bfs high (if not in money in emotional investments). Again, based on my experience, SAs are not after just a nice dinner or presents.They can have these from many other guys. There is a long queue waiting for them. They must also like you, besides your wallet. Because again there are so many fat wallets around. BonVivant 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 Amazing, yes if you chose the right one. Affordable, it depends on your financial status. But certainly, far more expensive than escorts. In my experience, escorts are low cost, SA type medium and bfs high (if not in money in emotional investments). Again, in my experience they are not after just a nice dinner or presents.They can have these from many other guys. There is a long queue waiting for them. They must also like you, besides your wallet. Because again there are so many fat wallets around. SA is far more expensive than escorts? HoseMaster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MscleLovr Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 Yes, because being in a relationship can mean much higher costs overall. KeepItReal, MikeBiDude and The_Impeccable_G 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Impeccable_G Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 SA is far more expensive than escorts? This is my experience so far. They don't ask for cash, but their iPhone broke down. If you add the iPhones, the shopping in Milan etc they cost more than escorts. But again, in my experience, they are more fun. Obviously it depends on what we are looking for. BonVivant, marylander1940, KeepItReal and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 This is my experience so far. They don't ask for cash, but their iPhone broke down. If you add the iPhones, the shopping in Milan etc they cost more than escorts. But again, in my experience, they are more fun. Obviously it depends on what we are looking for. thank you for your honest post. The_Impeccable_G 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Impeccable_G Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 thank you for your honest post. Others may have different experiences. It depends on who we are after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 Others may have different experiences. It depends on who we are after. In Italy I would go after Mateo Landi! He does porno now. caliguy and + Reisr30 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Impeccable_G Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 In Italy I would go after Mateo Landi! He does porno now. de gustibus... I prefer the fashion model tribe. The talll skinny ones with faces to die for. I go to Milan every year for a few days before male fashion weeks, when's there are hundreds of them casting. For the price conscious, they ask for nothing. Just drinks at the bar of the Principe di Savoia. marylander1940 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeBiDude Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 Yes, he’s deliberately missing the point. He has some sort of animus against those of us who enjoy using Seeking Arrangements. He can’t seem to grasp the fact there’s a plethora and continuum of ways to enjoy meeting men. I wonder if you are deliberately missing the point here @marylander1940 ? I agree with @The_Impeccable_G that Seeking is not a site to use to find an instant hookup or hire. I feel that many young men on Seeking are enthusiastic amateurs. They are sexually fluid or versatile, and they see an older man as interesting because he can look after them. They are interested in a classic “mutually beneficial arrangement”. I feel they would regard as crass and vulgar any older man saying I will pay you for sex. I do understand that some posters will regard any unconventional relationship as entailing “paying for sex”. Of course, an attractive young man wanting an expensive gift may please his partner in bed either to provide an incentive for purchase or to say Thank you…just as a wife may please her older husband in bed, hoping for a similar outcome. I don’t feel you can reduce the complexities of a relationship to a simple transaction. I always had a clear photo and true stats on my online profiles. Over the years, I met a few young men who genuinely prefer an older man, but on Seeking I found there were many who responded well to me. The ones I liked were nice young men with nice fit bodies; they were generally well-educated and well-mannered. Building friendships with them took time, but it was an enjoyable experience. MscleLovr, HoseMaster, + WilliamM and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 Yes, he’s deliberately missing the point. He has some sort of animus against those of us who enjoy using Seeking Arrangements. He can’t seem to grasp the fact there’s a plethora and continuum of ways to enjoy meeting men. You forgot to mention your hot tub (jacuzzi) and how twinks flocked to see you before the pandemic! Grindr, RM, SA, Facebook, etc. so many fantasies to keep your iPhone in your hands! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 de gustibus... I prefer the fashion model tribe. The talll skinny ones with faces to die for. I go to Milan every year for a few days before male fashion weeks, when's there are hundreds of them casting. For the price conscious, they ask for nothing. Just drinks at the bar of the Principe di Savoia. @MikeBiDude get your passport ready, plenty of slim white twinks waiting for you in Europe! caliguy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeBiDude Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 @marylander1940 on Seeking Arrangements posts Can’t seem to help it? Live and let live I say... + Lucky and + WilliamM 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 @marylander1940 on Seeking Arrangements posts Can’t seem to help it? Live and let live I say... I'll use that post too, very funny! LMFAO! MikeBiDude and caliguy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ WilliamM Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 You forgot to mention your hot tub (jacuzzi) and how twinks flocked to see you before the pandemic! Grindr, RM, SA, Facebook, etc. so many fantasies to keep your iPhone in your hands! You forgot your usual Co mments about @MikeBiDude "phone in your hand wihile sitting on a sofa," you are off script Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 You forgot your usual Co mments about @MikeBiDude "phone in your hand wihile sitting on a sofa," you are off script Bingo! It's implied and also pretty visual! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Impeccable_G Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 @MikeBiDude get your passport ready, plenty of slim white twinks waiting for you in Europe! And from the US and from down under.. I wish I could post some photos from Milan last year. MikeBiDude 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ WilliamM Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 @MikeBiDude get your passport ready, plenty of slim white twinks waiting for you in Europe! Come on, man. Chill! MikeBiDude, + Lucky and former lurker 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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