Dallas Escort Mafia

[mike carey]

My initial thoughts on this was that it couldn't automatically be put down to a concerted campaign by escorts, as it could just as easily be down to a flakey client community, but the more escorts who have chimed in the more it looks like that sort of campaign. So Daddy's client community in Dallas, if you want Alec to grace your city again, tell him you want to meet and if he puts his shingle up again book him for a longish session and commit to meeting him, with a deposit if necessary. If you don't trust electronic payment methods, go to his hotel the day he arrives and pay him in person. If you don't, chances are you will have to fly to meet him.

 

I admit, unlike most of you, I don't have the luxury of being able to expect the escorts I read about here to just turn up for me to see, so travelling is what I expect. Don't let the expectation that they can turn up become and expectation that they will!

[killianjamesnyc]

Mike, you bring up a very good point. Why I've discounted Dallas even MORE is because I've actually gotten a lot of guys asking me via PM if I'm ever going to Dallas. Two times I decided to take the leap and two times only one Dallas forum member contacted me on here to meet out of a possible 8, Yes I keep track. So that being said, If they aren't committing, and these people chat a lot on here, it's a good indication of what the city is like as a whole. I recently got an email from someone in here who initially sounded very ready to fly me down there for an overnight. I gave him my email and number and didn't hear back. I followed up with him. He now reroutes the conversation in a direction that if him and I should ever be around the same city we can meet, such as in DC. I'm sorry but that's a total 360. If I'm planning a trip to DC I'm worrying about my clients in DC, not potential clients in Dallas. It's Flakey, bizarre, and to be very frank quite rude. The city doesn't have a good energy and has very little character and not to mention probably the highest amount of parTying request I've ever gotten, and I live in NYC and spend a good amount of time in LA. Now we hear about this "escort mafia" crap. Well that says something right there, Dallas sucks and they're trying to keep whatever little business is there all to themselves, case closed. I really judge a city by the energy. Houston amazing energy. Charlotte amazing energy as well. You walk down the street there and feel like you're somewhere that's really got it going on. The people there are just excited about life and it really shows. Fortunately that translates into a fun time, and that includes being entertained by your favorite call boy.

[adventurous old guy]

Wow, I had no idea this was a common problem. I had to cancel on Alec not long ago, basically last minute due to a client insisting on continuing...and continuing and continuing...to celebrate a deal I had just helped him get. It never occurred to me not to pay him, and Alec made it easy to do via paypal. IMHO this is a matter of ethics, contracts and karma -- triple wham:

1. Do onto others as you would have them do onto you.
   
2. A deal's a deal.
   
3. What goes around comes around.
   

As the owner of a consulting business myself, I think "flake" is WAY too nice a word to describe people who do this. I hope there's a special ring of hell for these folks! Or that next life they're back as some lowly creature that gets stepped on a lot

[+ Keith30309]

1. Do onto others as you would have them do onto you.
   
2. A deal's a deal.
   
3. What goes around comes around.
   

 

+1

[mike carey]

I've taken notes Killian, if ever I want to meet you I won't say I am from Dallas! (That said no-one in the forum would believe me if I said I was!)

[+ Gar1eth]

I've taken notes Killian, if ever I want to meet you I won't say I am from Dallas! (That said no-one in the forum would believe me if I said I was!)

 

It was only due to the shrimp on the barbie quote Mike!!! Other than that you could have passed for a native!!

 

Gman

[oilboy]

As a native Dallasite..I am sorry Alec (and apparently some others) have had bad experiences here. While I am certain some of the "Dallitude" may exist, I submit that timing can also be a factor. This time of year in Dallas (and I'm sure in other regions) is extremely frenetic with a myriad of events; not that I would ever condone anyone being a "no show". Just food for thought.

[Racketjock]

I live in Houston, and travel to Dallas a bit. Lots of folks there do have a bit of an attitude as oilboy references. Has been that way for 30 years in my memory. Not sure why the bastards would waste your time and incredibly valuable assets. Certainly a waste of your part and what I imagine is one lottery winning step away from an amazing time. I only wish my business travel hadn't kept me away from showering you with some Texas hospitality when you recently visited. Please, please, come again. Hugs.

[Brian Kevin]

So two questions:

 

1. Has anyone else ever heard of this? Specifically in Dallas or are there other places?

 

2. Lets say that this is true... If I went back to Dallas and asked a client for a $50 show of good faith paypal deposit (which I hate doing and only ever make people do for plane tickets).. Would that turn you off as a potential real client? I suspect so.... so then what to do? Let the local escorts win and just not visit that market? Just suck it up and know that Dallas will have a high flake average?

 

 

I had similar situations, Houston and Dallas left me running. I did better in San Antonio and El Paso, reguardless, it will be a cold day in hell before I go back to Texas, that fuck state has bugs bigger than me AND grandmas got a couple guns in her pick up truck.

 

After Texas, this is where I started my, "If I don't have an amazing feeling talking to the person I will let them know I require a deposit, and if they aren't comfortable, then I inform them they will need to keep searching. do yourself a favor and get outta Texas all together!

[+ Gar1eth]

In case y'all haven't noticed we Texans have feuds with one another depending on which city we live in, lol. But we can agree on one thing, our hate & disgust of Oklahoma.

 

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Beat the heck outa OU!!

 

Gman

[Alec Andrews]

I appreciate the info guys.. I was just so surprised that it all happened on one day.... I had a great time is Austin and especially Houston... Just Dallas surprised me.

[+ Robster]

Dreamy Sigh! Isnt he so dreamy when he talks technical

Indeed. Brains and brawn are an irresistible combination for me. *swoon*

 

Rob

[Sigmund Freud]

As a person who hires escorts, 2-3x a year in NYC, and who values the service that they provide to me, who is very closeted and for career wise has to remain that way, I don't have a problem putting a deposit on our session time, as long as they are well reviewed. If I find an escort that has no reviews, little reviews or more negative than positive, then I will not put a deposit down. I can tell you that I would never do that to a human being period. I guess I am old school and everybody starts with trust and respect until that is broken. In my lifetime, I have always lived by that golden rule and it has never failed me unless I deviate from it. I might be a small minority in the grand scheme of things, but I value human beings. I deal with life and death on a daily basis and being an ER Nurse, you have to have that kind of mentality. Now don't get me wrong....there are drug seekers/players of the system and I have no respect for those individuals as they have proven they are not trust-worthy. But if you look at what a very good escort has to provide, then I have nothing but respect for that.

[Donpat]

I'm a little late to the party today, but to add my experiences in Dallas, a few years ago on a work trip, I knew I'd have extra time in the evening and prior to arriving made contact with a highly reviewed escort here called Logan Brock. We exchanged a couple texts, had a wonderful phone call a day before I traveled, and had set a time for the day after arrival. Logan was up front to inform me of some possible schedule issues, so we agreed I would text on arrival and we'd work it out. As it happened, he had agreed to be on call to cover for a friend at his day job who had a possible family event that was going to mandatory. That pushed our meeting to the following day, but on the next day, when I tried to arrange a confirmed time, communication went black. Complete and total radio silence. I was left wondering what had happened. In my mind, THIS particular escort, with terrific reviews and exactly what I look for in terms of activity and physical presentation (using his ad photos as my guide), flaked out on me. Left me with a sour taste in my mouth. I did enjoy some time at Tin Room and another club, but all in all, I found Dallas to be disappointing.

[Donpat]

As a person who hires escorts, 2-3x a year in NYC, and who values the service that they provide to me, who is very closeted and for career wise has to remain that way, I don't have a problem putting a deposit on our session time, as long as they are well reviewed. If I find an escort that has no reviews, little reviews or more negative than positive, then I will not put a deposit down. I can tell you that I would never do that to a human being period. I guess I am old school and everybody starts with trust and respect until that is broken. In my lifetime, I have always lived by that golden rule and it has never failed me unless I deviate from it. I might be a small minority in the grand scheme of things, but I value human beings. I deal with life and death on a daily basis and being an ER Nurse, you have to have that kind of mentality. Now don't get me wrong....there are drug seekers/players of the system and I have no respect for those individuals as they have proven they are not trust-worthy. But if you look at what a very good escort has to provide, then I have nothing but respect for that.

Amen! Well spoken and words I would use as well. I too respect what escorts provide and due to my career in a health related field must remain ULTRA discrete. Being asked for a deposit for an A-list escort who has excellent reviews would be uncomfortable, but I would view it as the companion protecting his business if I was a new client. And I'd be willing to pay it too

[geminibear]

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[JohnGerman]

As a person who hires escorts, 2-3x a year in NYC, and who values the service that they provide to me, who is very closeted and for career wise has to remain that way, I don't have a problem putting a deposit on our session time, as long as they are well reviewed. If I find an escort that has no reviews, little reviews or more negative than positive, then I will not put a deposit down. I can tell you that I would never do that to a human being period. I guess I am old school and everybody starts with trust and respect until that is broken. In my lifetime, I have always lived by that golden rule and it has never failed me unless I deviate from it. I might be a small minority in the grand scheme of things, but I value human beings. I deal with life and death on a daily basis and being an ER Nurse, you have to have that kind of mentality. Now don't get me wrong....there are drug seekers/players of the system and I have no respect for those individuals as they have proven they are not trust-worthy. But if you look at what a very good escort has to provide, then I have nothing but respect for that.

 

I, on the other hand, simply cannot accept putting down a deposit. In this business, as a client, discretion is the utmost important thing.

[Sigmund Freud]

I agree with you JohnGerman that discretion is key. I use the prepaid Money cards and do the deposit anonymously. I don't ever use my real credit card for any transaction like this. It is always a pre-paid money card and use an anonymous name and tell the escort what name it is under so that they know it is from me. I have done this 2x before and it has worked like a charm. I so far have had much success with this method. The deposits are very small 50-100. If I ever get ripped off by anybody by using this method, then I would never put a deposit on an escort again, period.

[abc645351]

Does this escort mafia thing even work? For example, let's say I want to book with Alec but all the Dallas escorts have booked fake appointments with him. I call him and he says unfortunately he is booked so we can't meet. That ends up hurting the escort, but what does it do to me? Alec will be less likely to come back to Dallas, but for me nothing really has changed. I wanted to see Alec (and still do) but I didn't get to. It's not like I'm going to hire one of the local escorts instead because Alec was unavailable. I just don't really see the point of the whole mafia thing because in the end it just hurts the traveling escorts but doesn't really do anything positive for the local escorts. There's a reason people hire traveling escorts: either because it's somebody you've been specifically wanting to meet or because nobody local fits what you're looking for in an escort (so you're waiting for someone that does fit your wants/needs to travel to you). At least that's my take on it.

Also for the record, I'm not from Dallas. I was just using that as an example.

On the deposit thing, I'd completely understand if you'd want to do that especially in "problem areas" like Dallas. I don't see why anyone would have a problem with that for a reputable escort (such as Alec), and if you care about discretion just get one of those pre-paid Visa/MC gift cards and use that. Putting a small deposit to get to see an escort like Alec is 100% worth it, especially if he wouldn't be able to travel to _____ city without risk.

[sincitymix]

Does this escort mafia thing even work? For example, let's say I want to book with Alec but all the Dallas escorts have booked fake appointments with him. I call him and he says unfortunately he is booked so we can't meet. That ends up hurting the escort, but what does it do to me? Alec will be less likely to come back to Dallas, but for me nothing really has changed. I wanted to see Alec (and still do) but I didn't get to. It's not like I'm going to hire one of the local escorts instead because Alec was unavailable. I just don't really see the point of the whole mafia thing because in the end it just hurts the traveling escorts but doesn't really do anything positive for the local escorts. There's a reason people hire traveling escorts: either because it's somebody you've been specifically wanting to meet or because nobody local fits what you're looking for in an escort (so you're waiting for someone that does fit your wants/needs to travel to you). At least that's my take on it.

Also for the record, I'm not from Dallas. I was just using that as an example.

On the deposit thing, I'd completely understand if you'd want to do that especially in "problem areas" like Dallas. I don't see why anyone would have a problem with that for a reputable escort (such as Alec), and if you care about discretion just get one of those pre-paid Visa/MC gift cards and use that. Putting a small deposit to get to see an escort like Alec is 100% worth it, especially if he wouldn't be able to travel to _____ city without risk.

its pretty much a way to lock down the escort, who might be turning away legitimate business when these fake ones set up an appointment. so said client probably went to another escort. so it ends up being alec 0 DEM 1

[Rudynate]

This reminds of the Christmas Mafia. Some years ago, I was vacationing in a little storybook medieval walled city in Northern Bavaria called Rothenburg ob der Tauber. Enchanting as it was, it was kind of a tourist trap. They had these Christmas shops that were open all year round and every few minutes another busload full of tourists pulled up. The tourists got off and they swarmed into the Christmas shops and left with arm loads full of impossibly charming (and expensive) Christmas stuff. There was a woman who owned several stores in the city and was trying dominate the local market for Christmas stuff. She had hired this very aggressive lawyer to heckle all the other Christmas shops in town with threatening letters and was trying to drive them all out of business. The local newspaper dubbed her the "Christmas Mafia."

[sincitymix]

This reminds of the Christmas Mafia. Some years ago, I was vacationing in a little storybook medieval walled city in Northern Bavaria called Rothenburg ob der Tauber. Enchanting as it was, it was kind of a tourist trap. They had these Christmas shops that were open all year round and every few minutes another busload full of tourists pulled up. The tourists got of and they swarmed into the Christmas shops and left arm loads full of impossibly charming (and expensive) Christmas stuff. There

how is that a mafia?

[Rudynate]

WAS

how is that a mafia?

 

 

Read the rest of it. I hit 'post' prematurely.

[Mocha]

Dallas sucks and they're trying to keep whatever little business is there all to themselves, case closed. I really judge a city by the energy. Houston amazing energy. Charlotte amazing energy as well. You walk down the street there and feel like you're somewhere that's really got it.

 

I wish I could double Like your post. **Sighs** this same thing I discussed back in July. Dallas + San Antonio = an empty bottle of head&shoulders. I was berated for not being a Texas fan.

 

Sometimes it takes a White man (Or 3 or 4 or more) to say things for people to be like....oh, well i guess he was right.

 

I don't know about Charlotte, I've been there but didn't stay but 2-3 days. But I'm hanging out in Nash, and OMG, these guys out here just can't get enough of me! Lol. So refreshing, especially when in some areas further out west they make my type feel like an alien from outer space. What a difference a state makes. My God.

[Mocha]

Does this escort mafia thing even work? There's a reason people hire traveling escorts: either because it's somebody you've been specifically wanting to meet or because nobody local fits what you're looking for in an escort (so you're waiting for someone that does fit your wants/needs to travel to you).

 

Well there you go, you've seen the light. The only reason to create a mafia to hamstring an escort is to be mean, not to win.

 

As a traveling escort myself, I don't even really care if other guys come to town. I know that it's hard enough to catch an entire markets clients in a 2-4 day trip. You just can't do it. I think the traveling escorts tend to get the guys who may hire a local escort once or twice, then move onto the next one.

 

I say that because years ago I visited Denver and met a handful of new clients, but once I moved there, I was seeing a whole new set of clients. About half became regulars for a few months.