NYC Priest Paid His Sex Master From Collection PLate

[thickornotatall]

http://nypost.com/2015/12/10/priest-paid-his-male-sex-master-from-collection-plate-lawsuit/

 

 

Oh Holy Night! etc..

[+ purplekow]

I understand for penance after his confession the priest had to do: 10 Whore Fathers and 10 Pale Mary's and perform a sincere act of contortion.

[+ WilliamM]

How many former altar boys are surprised? Very few would be my guess. The only difference is the priest I worked for had a girl friend. That's what happens when a church remains so conservative about sex. I am in no way justifying sexual abuse of children.

[+ purplekow]

The escort looks familiar but I cannot recall his stage name,

[+ quoththeraven]

I understand for penance after his confession the priest had to do: 10 Whore Fathers and 10 Pale Mary's and perform a sincere act of contortion.

 

These are such flagrantly bad puns that I can't like them, but I appreciate them.

[+ quoththeraven]

I don't care about the sex. I do care about the theft and embezzlement.

 

If he is guilty, he should be defrocked for being untrustworthy with money. The Church, which often doesn't seem to care about its displays of ostentation, nevertheless should not be enabling a priest to rip off parishioners. He doesn't have to worry where his next meal is coming from. His parishioners do.

[Juan Vancouver]

The Church, which often doesn't seem to care about its displays of ostentation, nevertheless should not be enabling a priest to rip off parishioners.

 

But that is all the Church does; rip off their parishioners.

 

Using an outdated mythology to claim they adhere to strict laws, while privately breaking them all, covering up for their priests and nuns so that their influence remains untouched and the coffers full, the church is nothing but a perfectly well oiled money making, power machine.

 

It is conceivable there might be a couple pious and honest people in their midsts, but the institution was built and still thrives through misinformation, cover ups, coercion, threats and mendacity.

 

Sincerely, who can say they are shocked to know higher powers knew about this priest getting his jollies and still they didn't do a thing? Who can honestly say they would be shocked to learn Mr Father Nastypissboy will be simply transferred to a different parish as soon as the scandal quiets down?

 

Sadly, I am not shocked.

[cany10011]

I think ive seen the escort's ad on rentboy before. Very hot.

[jawjateck]

Well, at least he hired a guy who looks ok. Sometimes the shocking thing about a "scandal" is the appearance of the pro involved in the controversy.

[Moondance]

The escort looks familiar but I cannot recall his stage name,

 

I think I've seen the escort's ad on rentboy before. Very hot.

 

I believe this is the guy (below, from a Myspace page under the name listed in the newspaper article). The same Myspace page includes a January 2008 calendar page with an inset photo that's the one used in the New York Post coverage.

 

Not to condone the actions of the thieving priest, but, HOLY HELL, now there's a guy who could test your faith!

 

[+ WmClarke]

 

Sincerely, who can say they are shocked to know higher powers knew about this priest getting his jollies and still they didn't do a thing? Who can honestly say they would be shocked to learn Mr Father Nastypissboy will be simply transferred to a different parish as soon as the scandal quiets down?

 

Sadly, I am not shocked.

Given that the cardinal mentioned is the former archbishop of my town, I am doubly not shocked.

[Becket]

Well, the priest certainly has good taste, being a thief and all. I'm more interested in setting up a session with the escort in question. Wish someone would provide more detailed contact info. Not sure I wanna drink his piss, but the other stuff sounds lovely.

[Moondance]

Here's another article about this that uses the image I found on the Myspace page:

 

http://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/archdiocese-of-ny-and-cdl.-dolan-sued-over-homosexual-priest-stealing-milli

[+ WilliamM]

 

But that is all the Church does; rip off their parishioners.

 

Using an outdated mythology to claim they adhere to strict laws, while privately breaking them all, covering up for their priests and nuns so that their influence remains untouched and the coffers full, the church is nothing but a perfectly well oiled money making, power machine.

 

It is conceivable there might be a couple pious and honest people in their midsts, but the institution was built and still thrives through misinformation, cover ups, coercion, threats and mendacity.

 

Actually there are many pious and honest people "in their midst" in the Catholic Church and many other faiths. I am mostly on your side on this, but such extreme exaggerations are silly and make you look bad.

 

I believe I was the first one who posted that the priest I worked with had a girlfriend. That was fine with me because he was an excellent priest. As you must know, there are many priests and nuns who devote their lives to helping the poor and hopeless through social service program.

 

I have not gone to church in years and hate people like Cardinal Law. But, your response, Juan, is the opposite of thoughtful.

[Kenny]

Best line in the Post story: "Miqueli ripped off money raised to buy a new pipe organ."

[+ quoththeraven]

But that is all the Church does; rip off their parishioners.

 

Using an outdated mythology to claim they adhere to strict laws, while privately breaking them all, covering up for their priests and nuns so that their influence remains untouched and the coffers full, the church is nothing but a perfectly well oiled money making, power machine.

 

It is conceivable there might be a couple pious and honest people in their midsts, but the institution was built and still thrives through misinformation, cover ups, coercion, threats and mendacity.

 

Sincerely, who can say they are shocked to know higher powers knew about this priest getting his jollies and still they didn't do a thing? Who can honestly say they would be shocked to learn Mr Father Nastypissboy will be simply transferred to a different parish as soon as the scandal quiets down?

 

Sadly, I am not shocked.

 

I'm not sure whether by "Church" you mean Roman Catholicism or Christianity. If you mean Roman Catholicism, while I largely agree with you (that's why we're called Protestants), I am not willing to tar it all or accept that it should not be expected to live up to its supposed ideals. (I was supposed to be raised Roman Catholic and rejected it for myself.)

 

If you mean Christianity, my response is that human beings and institutions are by nature imperfect and subject to corruption. The logical extreme of that view is to mistrust every institution because they all are imperfect or corrupt to some extent. If you want to do without laws and government and other social institutions, fine, but (respectfully) I don't trust my fellow human beings as individuals enough for that to work for me.

 

If (dis)organized religion is not for you, also fine! How you live your life matters way more than what you believe or don't follow.

 

But those "live and let live" views about femmes and others who don't confirm to majority preferences that you applauded in another thread? Those are views I got from Jesus's words. Those are views that are lived and modeled in the churches I've been in way more than in the outside world, this one included. Those churches believe in examining scripture in historical context and adjusting one's understanding accordingly. They ordain women (hell, I was on an ordination committee; if you allow women to be gatekeepers, you can't consistently turn around and argue against ordaining them). Some ordain gays and lesbians.

 

Maybe it helps that I'm aware of the deficiencies of institutional Christianity and that I use other traditions and philosophies like Taoism, Zen Buddhism, and Judaism (which has no particular problem with m/f sex or sex work) to fill in those blanks. Maybe I'm the only one here who realizes that the genealogy of David and Jesus includes a sex worker (Rahab, who gave Joshua and the spies in Jericho a warm welcome) or that Ruth had sex with Boaz before marriage.

 

Sorry, that turned into something of a rant. But I felt it needed to be said. Although if I'd seen what WilliamM posted above first, maybe I wouldn't have felt the need to say it.

[Muscle Lover 2]

I can't remember the escort's name either but he was great when I met with him 10 years ago! He's not still working it, is he? I haven't seen his ads in many years.

[+ sync]

I can't remember the escort's name either but he was great when I met with him 10 years ago! He's not still working it, is he? I haven't seen his ads in many years.

 

If he wisely invested some of the revenue he received from the arrangement described in this thread, he probably doesn't need the work.

[seaboy4hire]

If he wisely invested some of the revenue he received from the arrangement described in this thread, he probably doesn't need the work.

 

His assets will prob be taken so any investments he made will be gone.

 

Hugs,

Greg

[Moondance]

There are many pious and honest people in the Catholic Church and many other faiths.

 

Thank you for that post, WilliamM. You are indisputably right.

 

My one-time Catholicism is long-lapsed, and for a variety of reasons. I am not the guy to turn to if you want to hear a defense of the Church, or of organized religion in general. However, one of the finest, funniest, most selfless and generous people I have ever known was a School Sister of Notre Dame. Another was the Marist Brother who introduced me to my Significant Other. Neither would have defended everything about the Church; neither agreed with all its teachings. I'm not sure they would have seen themselves this way, but I came to think of them as "working within the system" and having the potential to change it in positive ways.

 

Both of these individuals are gone now, but I will be grateful to them all my life.

[+ sync]

His assets will prob be taken so any investments he made will be gone.

 

Maybe so, but there are ways to confuse investments or give them a low profile.

[+ quoththeraven]

Maybe so, but there are ways to confuse investments or give them a low profile.

 

As former lawyer, this makes me want to throw my hands up in the air.

 

Remember, it's not the crime (or whatever) that usually lands you in trouble. It's the cover-up.

[+ WilliamM]

Neither would have defended everything about the Church; neither agreed with all its teachings. I'm not sure they would have seen themselves this way, but I came to think of them as "working within the system" and having the potential to change it in positive ways.

 

I have a 78-year old first cousin who has been a nun in a nursing order since 1960. She was always qualified to became the head of the order located in Paris. But, she never wanted the responsibility and did not speak French. Finally, eleven years ago she took the job. Never good at languages, she has mostly learned French in her 60s and 70s. But, all eleven years have been an ordeal. She is literally overwhelmed, not by the job, but speaking French all day. A century ago there were more nuns, and all the burden would not have fallen on her.

 

She does know Cardinal Law. Recently I made a mistake and thought she had dinner with Cardinal Law. Her calm reaction" Yes, we know each other, but dinner, absolutely not!!!

 

She took a vow of poverty in 1960, and has made the Paris property less grand and more inviting to the poor, mentally ill and disadvantage. I hope she can enjoy a few years of retirement. Just one of many, many stories of sefless individual who do much good associated with religion, non-profits, volunteer groups or on their own.

 

To be fair to Juan, I do understand his stand although I do not agree.

[+ sync]

Maybe so, but there are ways to confuse investments or give them a low profile.

 

As former lawyer, this makes me want to throw my hands up in the air.

 

Remember, it's not the crime (or whatever) that usually lands you in trouble. It's the cover-up.

 

Yes, but more often it's not knowing when to quit: Bernie Madoff/Sheldon Silver/numerous mayors/numerous legislators, etc. Your comment about cover-ups reminded me of a stint of grand jury I served that returned an indictment for embezzlement. After the indictment was rendered, the prosecutor stated that what made the case for the prosecution was the impeccable record keeping that was maintained by the perpetrators.

[sincitymix]

As former lawyer, this makes me want to throw my hands up in the air.

 

Remember, it's not the crime (or whatever) that usually lands you in trouble. It's the cover-up.

 

Truer words have never been spoken

Girl at work got fired, never had an incident in her entire 10 year career (as I was told). Instead of taking a write up and a slap on the hand, she tried to cover it up. Due to the nature of our business and the Patient records we deal with, as trivial and minor as she thought it was, that cover up, slight as it was, resulted in an automatic termination.