Great Expectations

[+ purplekow]

At the recent PS get together, there were about 8 escorts at the pool party who I had previously hired, most more than once. I did not feel anything like friendship toward these men, more an acquaintanceship in which I got to suck his dick and he got to suck mine. There are a few other escorts, four or five actually, who did not attend the party, who I no longer hire but to whom I speak on a regular basis, friends with whom I used to fuck around before we were friends but do not do so now because we are friends.

There are no escorts who I have hired, with whom I am friends but still hire. With

most of the escorts I have hired, I have not had any contact after a roll in the hay.

So is this a representative sample or am I an oddball.

I proceed in doing this with the Great Expectation of finding a Pip but so far I am Pipless in New Jersey.

[JDXXX]

At the recent PS get together, there were about 8 escorts at the pool party who I had previously hired, most more than once. I did not feel anything like friendship toward these men, more an acquaintanceship in which I got to suck his dick and he got to suck mine. There are a few other escorts, four or five actually, who did not attend the party, who I no longer hire but to whom I speak on a regular basis, friends with whom I used to fuck around before we were friends but do not do so now because we are friends.

There are no escorts who I have hired, with whom I am friends but still hire. With

most of the escorts I have hired, I have not had any contact after a roll in the hay.

So is this a representative sample or am I an oddball.

I proceed in doing this with the Great Expectation of finding a Pip but so far I am Pipless in New Jersey.

 

Well PK, I know you didn't hire me in PS(even though we had our hot playful moment just kissing with Tyger during the Demo at Dave's in DC, but wasn't hired because I'm only "one role" as you know), so I'm out. . DARN. Talk about being the "odd" ball.

[+ stevenkesslar]

At the recent PS get together, there were about 8 escorts at the pool party who I had previously hired, most more than once. I did not feel anything like friendship toward these men, more an acquaintanceship in which I got to suck his dick and he got to suck mine.

 

So is this a representative sample or am I an oddball.

 

This is a difficult one to diagnose PK. Normally I'd want to take sperm samples from all 8 escorts. In this case that's not practical, so I could only take a sample from myself, since I am apparently one of the 8 you've hired repeatedly but don't feel friendly with. (Fucker!)

 

So my findings are inconclusive, but generally I'd say there is nothing odd about you. Generally, if you have 1 to 3 repeat hires it makes you a newbie. 4 to 6 hires you are a lush. Any more than half a dozen and you are considered a proper whore. Just like me. Congratulations!

 

Seriously, though, the word I've used a lot lately is "work associate." It is a synonym for whore. One of my long term clients suggested I use the word when I asked him a question about his friendship network. He probably has the broadest friendship network of any client I know, or any adult I know. My guess is it numbers in the hundreds, including people he travels with regularly. I asked him how many of them he met through work, and he confirmed my hunch by answering about 80 percent of them. I think that is typical of men. I've had clients whose wives connected with friends through their church stitch groups and what not, but generally for gay men that's not an option. We make friends through work.

 

Escorting is a weird form of work, for sure, but taking off your clothes and getting intimate tends to result in ... well, intimacy. More so when it goes on with the same client for years. It's not unlike a weird form of polyamorous arranged marriage.

 

Lately I've beaten to death the fact that my clients were my biggest source of emotional support when I had a pity party based on the fucked up real estate market. Some will call me to discuss their problems, some won't, but at least I like to believe that even the ones who don't are not bullshitting when they tell me I provide them an outlet and source of support for their inner queer self.

 

Then there is just the weird stuff. Like Epigonos calling me regularly to tell me that all Muslims are fanatics who want to blow up the world, to which I reply he is full of shit, to which he replies I have my head up my ass, after which the call ends, until he calls again. Like I said, it's kind of like an arranged marriage, especially if you factor in that even arranged marriages can go bad.

 

Fortunately, such a friendship does not exist between us, at least in your eyes (Fucker!). If it did, we would no doubt be going back and forth constantly about the relative merits of Barack and Hillary. Of course, unlike Epigonos, you could not accuse me of having my head up my ass. Since your cock would already be up there, my head wouldn't fit.

[+ sync]

I'm a only "one role" Talk about being the "odd" ball.

 

Me too, JD.

[JDXXX]

Me too, JD.

 

Really? Do tell, sync. Are you possibly keeping secrets from me? .

[big-n-tall]

I don't think you are odd. There have been a good number of discussions on this board about A) clients not possibly becoming friends with escorts B) falling in love escorts C) hiring just for sex, and keeping a distant between the client and the escort.... and on and on. There have been plenty of arguments pro and con, as I'm sure you know.

 

Is it possible to become friends with an escort? Absolutely! People are people and just because there is a business side to the relationship doesn't mean a friendship can't blossom. Conversely some keep a distant for various reasons... in your case, it seems as though, once you truly befriend them, your attraction on some level fades. I totally understand this.

 

In my own personal experience, I have befriended a number of escorts/sexual entertainers. (I use sexual entertainers because one guy in particular I can't say he escorted, but he has webcam'd.) The webcam guy, at first, I was highly sexually attracted to. But as I got to know him and he know me... I think of him more like family. Now the thought of him sexually kind of weirds me out. MAJOR BONER KILLER!

 

Most of my multiple hires I think would be considered acquaintance level relationships. I'm fine with that. However, there are a select amount... that have become true friends. If I like a person, as a friend, they'll know it. These guys are amazing people and we can talk for hours before sex even enters the equation. We communicate (in which ever way) to each other regularly and have hung out off the clock whenever they have free time. Do I want to stop having sex with them because they've become my friends. No. In fact the sex has become more playful or passionate because of it. As long as I don't start thinking of them like family... the sex will continue.

 

Ultimately it comes down to how you view your relationship and emotional tie with your hire. You're definitely not odd. Each person approaches this hobby and the men they encounter differently. Who's to say what's odd and what is not? Well unless you like the thought of having sex with your brother. Then maybe you are odd after all. Lol!

 

Sorry for the long read.

[+ sync]

Really? Do tell, sync. Are you possibly keeping secrets from me? .

 

Perish the thought, JD. I'm merely conveying that bottoming is not for me. Perhaps I'm missing out on a pleasurable hormonal fulfillment, but ,thus far, it's a "no go".

[JDXXX]

Perish the thought. I'm merely conveying that bottoming is not for me. Perhaps I'm missing out on a pleasurable hormonal fulfillment, but ,thus far, it's a "no go".

 

Awww Wow!! Just when I had such high hopes of showing you a good time. Just don't YOU perish the the thought too long as perhaps you're missing out as I have been known to give pleasure in more ways then just one. They don't call us "professionals" for nothing you know. .

 

Right Steven?

[+ stevenkesslar]

I have been known to give pleasure in more ways then just one. They don't call us "professionals" for nothing you know. .

 

Right Steven?

 

Absolutely, JD.

 

The last time you visited, it gave me deep pleasure to wave goodbye and say "Good riddance!" as you walked out the door. That was so kind of you!

 

Oh, wait. That's actually what I was thinking. I probably actually said, "Goodbye, sweetie, and keep in touch."

 

After all, I am a professional!

[JDXXX]

Absolutely, JD.

 

The last time you visited, it gave me deep pleasure to wave goodbye and say "Good riddance!" as you walked out the door. That was so kind of you!

 

Oh, wait. That's actually what I was thinking. I probably actually said, "Goodbye, sweetie, and keep in touch."

 

After all, I am a professional!

 

Oh, maybe that's why my tires screeched against the asphalt abruptly reaking with smoke in the background as I was rushing out of the driveway in a hurry with my hand out the window waving back at you trying to remain kind in return as well as professional - Just like you. . Your not the only smart ass whore in the bunch.

 

Now, try to top that - if you dare. . LOL

[+ Charlie]

I think you, PK, have raised a larger point: what is the relationship between friendship and sexual attraction? Forgetting about the escort angle--I have never become friends with the escorts I have hired, only with escorts I have met socially--I always found that after I established a friendship with anyone I slept with first, I lost interest in having a sexual relationship with him. I don't know what the psychological explanation of that may be, but it was consistently true for me.

[+ purplekow]

I think you, PK, have raised a larger point: what is the relationship between friendship and sexual attraction? Forgetting about the escort angle--I have never become friends with the escorts I have hired, only with escorts I have met socially--I always found that after I established a friendship with anyone I slept with first, I lost interest in having a sexual relationship with him. I don't know what the psychological explanation of that may be, but it was consistently true for me.

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[+ Gar1eth]

I have trouble with the concept of paying friends for sex. If they like me and want to sex -well I'm not sure that has ever happened- but if they did like me for a sex partner, I wouldn't expect to pay. If we were non-sex friends, well then there's no reason to pay.

 

And the problem of determining friendship when you are still paying them are many. There can be too many expectations both by the guy paying and the guy receiving the money. It's very similar to the old truism that one way to ruin a friendship is to lend that person money- or conversely to borrow money.

 

Now that doesn't mean I can't have kind feelings towards an escort. And I hope most of the escorts I've met-at the very least the ones I've hired multiple times- think I'm an ok guy.

 

While I've wished I was the type of guy that a very few (definitely not all) of the escorts I've met could consider me for a boyfriend- I've decided that living in the real world even though hurtful is better than a delusion.

 

Gman

[+ purplekow]

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I have trouble with the concept of paying friends for sex.

 

 

Gman